Some ANTI-War celebs crossing the line
 

You can be for or against the war thats all good,
shit its your right and freedom to form your own opinion

but when you start to disrespect and talking bad about the Military stationed in the middle east thats when your crossing the line,

I got a brother, neighbor, and friends over there right now,
so i got plenty to loose

I agree with you!!

Tell'em like it is!!

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I agree. Fuck celebrities anyway, they make money off their faces.. like we really care how intelligently they present themselves or their view on the war. I'm sure there are pro-war celebrities, but the media doesn't give them any airtime. :mad:

i ran into Emilio Estevez at Guitar Center last year, hahaha

I just kept laughing to myself, in Breakfast Club he was this buff little beef, but now... he looked like JR from Dallas, all fat n chubby with a suit overcoat and jeans with cowboy boots picking out guitars,.

funny

hahah

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Agree completely, STFU Celebs and keep making your horrific war movies showing people getting blown apart, meteors crashing into earth movies, giant alien movies, and all the crap ripoff films that comes out of Hollywierd these days. :BangBang:

What really pisses me is that some them performed on the USO tours,, telling them how proud they are and how honored to be in front of them and shit

what a bunch of hipocrets

link please?

Which ones are you talking about? I haven't really been following, but I have a feeling Barbara Streisand, Martin Sheen, and Alec Baldwin are just a select few. Baldwin swore he would move to another country if Bush was elected. What the fuck is he still doing here?

A couple weeks ago I was at a pre-screening of The Life of David Gale. Kevin Spacey was there afterwards for a short Q&A session. Someone asked him if he felt that celebrities have a responsibility to "lead" the general public. His answer was kick ass.

Celebrities are meant to entertain. Not share their personal "knowledge" with the public. What the fuck do they know about world politics? Foreign affairs? Domestic politics? Fuck all. They're actors. They have been educated in the arts, not political science and business.

And then we have the idiots who actually care what these "knowledgeable celebrities" have to say. Christ. People need to wake the fuck up.

Fuck celebrities. They live in beautiful homes with luxury vehicles, they have no idea what it's like to be an average American.

Just like the people who spew their opinions here. They can say whatever they want, who cares.

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Whenever this shit is over and the troops comeback

I swear i will punch someone in the mouth if they call them baby killers or spit on them or whatever like they did back during vietnam war

I haven't heard any celebrities say anything about the troops. Please show me what you're talking about, or at least explain.

Everybody has a right to an opinion, and everybody has a right to voice that opinion. That's America. That's the freedom those soldiers are supposed to be fighting for, so why would you want to shut people up?

Despite my unbearable lust for the Barabarella Jane Fonda, she said some good things in the old days.

Celebs have always 'shared their opinion' I dont see why it matters any less now then it did back then, and they wanted to hang Jane

hahah

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I'm surprised at the number of babies we have here who can't handle living in a country with free speech.

Of course if these same celebrities were agreeing with you you'd be telling us how intelligent and patriotic they were.

Isn't free speech when people agree with you?

It's a free country. They can do whatever the hell they want. There have plenty of celebrities who have also come out in support of the war. BTW....Reagan was an actor. Likewise, Scwarzenegger, Charlton Heston and Bruce Willis, are all Republicans, and are politically very vocal.

It's their right!

What part of the constitution that protects our freedom of expression do people have difficulty understanding??



Also, where did these celebrities start talking smack about the troops? Source? If they did, I'd say they're pretty stupid, but it's their right to be.

Lots of people seem to believe that.

Another question...

Why is it always those who self identify as patriots who believe that to protect freedom, they must squash free speech?

Evidently.




btw, Joe.......I didn't get your ICQ.....ping me when you have the chance 176050593

You're on my contact list.

Mine is #101014454

You're right. Although there's a difference between speaking your opinion and becoming the next Jane Fonda. But, like you, I have no idea what playa was referencing.

Articles?

Funny, I was going to post the same thing. If you talk the talk, you should walk the walk.

I support the entire bill of rights, 1 through 10. What's up with all these people who think the Constitution is like cafeteria, that you can pick and choose what rights people should have, or when a paticular right doesn't apply universally.

Geez....it just dawned on me that I'm almost agreeing with Gutterboy who politically is on the complete end of the spectrum as me...

Hey, Joe....did you see the results from that political test? You (and Gutterboy) came up as overall the least like me. Joe was 3rd least like me and Gutterboy 5th least like me. LOL

George Washington (you know, the Father of our country) warned against maintaining a large standing army. Why? Because they tend to create their own policies and seek out missions for themselves when they get bored. He was a very smart man, and it turns out he was right.


So many military people today say "Hey, just let us do our job, that's all we ask". Well, sorry assholes, when "doing your job" involves harassing other countries for no reason, pissing off our allies, acting as muscle for petty political disputes, and undermining freedom, then TRUE patriotic Americans have a right to call you out.

Can any sane person really claim that 300K troops in Kuwait are really protecting America's freedom?

People dig their own graves. It was Hanoi Jane's right and she paid the price. She forever destroyed her reputation, at least in my eyes.


:winkwink: :thumbsup

You're the worst conservative on GFY. You actually make sense sometimes. :)

Dave Plays for President!

Hey i didn't say shit about it being wrong to take a stance

like i said you have the freedom to say whatever you want

but to call the military over there a bunch of killers and losers is crossing the line

its almost becoming like the Vietnam Era
the soldiers come back and they gets no love or respect from the people

If any soldier has a problem with being a killer i'd say they are in the wrong biz. :1orglaugh

But agreed, the politicians are to blame. Not the soldiers. Unless they actually do commit war crimes down there.

We'll never know though, the US backed out of the war crimes court...

"You have the freedom to say whatever you want, except when I think its over the line"

hahaha, grow the fuck up. You don't realize how idiotic that is, do you? Let me make it as simple as possible..

Is it only you who gets to judge whats over the line? Maybe I think that calling peace protesters losers is over the line.. should I be able to shut you up? Why should your opinion about whats 'over the line' be preferenced over mine?

And in fact, most of the people who I knew who went into the military were losers. They went in because they weren't smart enough to go to college, couldn't support themselves after HS, some were racists who wanted to kill sand ******s, and various similar reasons.

LOL.....I try. :thumbsup

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Originally posted by Playa Hey i didn't say shit about it being wrong to take a stance like i said you have the freedom to say whatever you want

I'm not sure if you're referring to me. I agree. IMHO that is crossing the line, but it's their right.

but to call the military over there a bunch of killers and losers is crossing the line

[B]Who did? I believe you but I'd like to see the source. People are always quotiing shit on here that turns out to be B.S.

Hey sorry but not everyone was born with a silver spoon in their mouth, I didn't grow up in the best schools or had parents that went to college. joining the military was the best thing for me


But guess why every job application you apply for always ask about your military experience?

Because they want to know if you have any military experience? :winkwink:

I would just like to know why you believe that the military should be above criticism? The only way people accusing the military of being baby killing losers is going to hurt is if there is some basis to those accusations.

In Vietnam there certainly was.

Because they don't make orders they follow them.

There out thier living in sand and taking a shit in port o potties.
and wondering if they gonna be alive the next day


so weather you for or against they still need the support

That's a choice they made. Nobody forced them to join the army. You take responsibility for your own decisions.

of course

Maybe that says more about who you hang around with rather than who goes into the military. I have a lot of friends who are in or went into the military who were far from being losers. Some had graduated from college. Others didn't have the money for college, so they did the G.I. Bill and went to college afterwards.

Must still be shopping for a cheap flight.

they are fucking morons, i wish they would go be a human shield

yes they do!



btw....can you send me that link. I want to know which celebrities were talking smack about the soldiers.

who?

The keyword in that sentence might be "elected". :1orglaugh

I am starting to believe that its not really anti-war but an excuse for anti-bush