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Thomas007 03-04-2014 06:42 AM

Amateur Paysite host + TGP Network for sale = Lifestyle Amateurs ? $20k
 
Would you like to own and operate an amateur paysite hosting service and affiliate program?

http://www.adultreviews.com/boardpos...eurs-front.jpg

We have one for sale and the price is USD 20.000
It's called Lifestyle Amateurs and is placed on the domain www.lifestyleamateurs.com

You will be buying infrastructure and not existing revenue.
Existing revenue is around 2-300 USD per month.

The affiliate program and billing is running on Nats.
The cms, model content administration, membersarea and tour is all custom made.

It's written in PHP and using MySQL as DB.

The site is originally launched in 2008. We have since then spent more than $300k on it.
We were unable to reach critical mass in models and traffic at the same time.
The full story can be read here:

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1071041

Included in the price is also a teen/amateur TGP network.
Sites included can be seen here
http://artgps.com/properties.php

We had plans to relaunch under the name WeAreSexy.com
The domain is included if you want it.

Everything is hosted on 2 dedicated servers with National Net.
Combined expenses for that is $400 per month.
The Nats license is $150 per month.

We are selling it because we have shifted our focus on to mainstream projects.
We would like to see someone else become successful with the concept.

Process of sale:
If you are serious and have the money to buy, email me at [email protected]

You are welcome to ask general questions in this thread.

PS: The infrastructure can also be used to run any other niche of paysite host or a single paysite.

arock10 03-04-2014 06:59 AM

Oh wow so much for that

pinkz 03-04-2014 08:41 AM

So income is 2 to 300 bucks a month, costs $550 pcm to run and you want 20k for it? I loled!

Klen 03-04-2014 08:54 AM

Those tgp's are partnership between you and nation-x,right?I guess since i bought one part,then second part of nation-x network,should buy third one as well lol

Thomas007 03-04-2014 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20004076)
Those tgp's are partnership between you and nation-x,right?I guess since i bought one part,then second part of nation-x network,should buy third one as well lol

The tgps was run by nation-x.
We bought him out of it. He is full time mainstream now.
You are welcome to buy it.
I would prefer someone to give them some love instead of we just close all all down.

Roald 03-04-2014 12:16 PM

Wasnt HomeGrown doing something with it?

sandman! 03-04-2014 12:22 PM

good luck with the sale but getting 20k for something making $300 a month is hard nowdays :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

Harmon 03-04-2014 12:24 PM

Smart move. Dump it and run. Take what you can get for it at this point.
http://i.imgur.com/0XDGH7n.jpg

Thomas007 03-04-2014 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 20004404)
Wasnt HomeGrown doing something with it?

Yes they were. We were in the midle of moving stuff to their servers when they realised they wanted to concentrate on their core sites.
So a change of policy in the company stopped that partnership.
That was in the summer 2013. The site has been on idle since then.

Thomas007 03-04-2014 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 20004418)
good luck with the sale but getting 20k for something making $300 a month is hard nowdays :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

As I wrote in the initial post. The buyer is buying a script and infrastruture to run a paysite host.
The revenue it is currently making is uninteresting.

The Porn Nerd 03-04-2014 01:45 PM

Sorry but you are asking WAY too much.

You say the 20k buys me "infrastructure" to run a paysite etc? Well, I can get that "infrastructure" for a fuck lot less than 20k. LOL

You have no traffic, you have about $75 a week in revenue and it costs almost double that to just run the site....

How about I go get myself a host, a NATS license, buy some content, all for around 3-5K and we call it a day?

Sorry man but 5 years, over 300k put into the operation, and still you can only manage $200-300 USD a MONTH in revenue? Face it, your concept (or how you've been running your biz) simply ain't working.

Roald 03-04-2014 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20004544)

Sorry man but 5 years, over 300k put into the operation, and still you can only manage $200-300 USD a MONTH in revenue? Face it, your concept (or how you've been running your biz) simply ain't working.

he admitted to this years ago already.

The Porn Nerd 03-04-2014 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 20004561)
he admitted to this years ago already.

Yah maybe, but he's STILL asking 20k for a non-successful operation and "infrastructure" and trying to justify the cost.

PS: Where did the 300k GO? I'm assuming it went into paying models. If so then he might have a better shot selling the content alone to as many people as possible instead of trying to dump the whole thing.

MrDeiz 03-04-2014 02:43 PM

well, it's impossible to sell site like that for requested price
the whole idea is very great, but the market has changed.
ppl don't want to buy stuff like that

brassmonkey 03-04-2014 02:59 PM

does a car come with it?? :helpme

fuzebox 03-04-2014 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20004570)
Where did the 300k GO?

Industry "consultants" :pimp :1orglaugh

DVTimes 03-04-2014 05:19 PM

I bid $45

cybermike 03-04-2014 06:13 PM

They did pay for my dinner in phx a few years ago.. sorry I ate so much..

arock10 03-04-2014 07:31 PM

$300k buys a lot of bro drinks

myleene 03-04-2014 07:41 PM

How many videos are included?

All the content has 2257s for it right?

Thomas007 03-05-2014 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myleene (Post 20004961)
How many videos are included?

All the content has 2257s for it right?

10-15 videos. There are 2257 docs.

Thomas007 03-05-2014 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybermike (Post 20004878)
They did pay for my dinner in phx a few years ago.. sorry I ate so much..

Don't worry, that was my pleasure.

Thomas007 03-05-2014 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 20004830)
I bid $45

Thanks for the offer.
I would like a little more to justify the time needed to transfer domains and hand over information.

Thomas007 03-05-2014 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20004544)
Sorry but you are asking WAY too much.

You say the 20k buys me "infrastructure" to run a paysite etc? Well, I can get that "infrastructure" for a fuck lot less than 20k. LOL

You have no traffic, you have about $75 a week in revenue and it costs almost double that to just run the site....

How about I go get myself a host, a NATS license, buy some content, all for around 3-5K and we call it a day?

Sorry man but 5 years, over 300k put into the operation, and still you can only manage $200-300 USD a MONTH in revenue? Face it, your concept (or how you've been running your biz) simply ain't working.

I'm trying to be polite in the way I write. I would appreciate if you do the same.
In your expense calculation you are missing the CMS or platform to hold the content and let the models upload and administrate their content.

That is the main asset that is worth buying.

The TGP network is worth something to a seo network.
It's old domains.

Struggle4Bucks 03-05-2014 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20004544)
Sorry man but 5 years, over 300k put into the operation, and still you can only manage $200-300 USD a MONTH in revenue?

How is that even possible??? I made $304.50 the very first month i was online...

Thomas007 03-05-2014 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20004570)

PS: Where did the 300k GO? I'm assuming it went into paying models. If so then he might have a better shot selling the content alone to as many people as possible instead of trying to dump the whole thing.

You can read it here
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1071041

50k was spend on content. We learned a lesson there about production and models.
The value of the content is to oversee.

As a developer, I see the platform is worth something and the TGP network does also have some value.

Thomas007 03-05-2014 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 20004561)
he admitted to this years ago already.

So true :-)

That's what we stopped trying getting Lifestyle Amateurs to work.

I still believe in the concept.
If I didn't have anything else to do and was living in the states I would give it another go.
It needs a presence close to the models to get it going.
6 hours timezone difference makes it harder.

Thomas007 03-05-2014 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20005158)
How is that even possible??? I made $304.50 the very first month i was online...

No one is administrating the network at the moment.
It has been on autopilot in 2 years.

The fact it's still making sales is showing it has an audience.


Now I'm trying to hand it over to someone which have the will and the time to give it some attention.

Thomas007 03-05-2014 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDeiz (Post 20004622)
well, it's impossible to sell site like that for requested price
the whole idea is very great, but the market has changed.
ppl don't want to buy stuff like that

The fact it's still making sales is showing it has an audience.

What do you think the price should be?

If someone wanted to start something similar, this would be a good foundation to start on instead of starting coding from scratch.

MrDeiz 03-05-2014 02:10 AM

the price? well... it's not a business anymore...
especially in amateur genre, where there're hundreds of free sites like hahahahahahahahahahahahaha and many others, a lot of others with semi-prof content.
you can't make ppl pay for it. it's easier to establish free site like imagefap and add some premium services or put ads then delevop classic paysite

dude, i'm on the same boat with u. my cam and celebrity sales are significantly growing, but my adult properties and exposedforums.com are almost the same it was a year ago. almost nothing works to tune things up. this game is over. period.

Far-L 03-05-2014 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas007 (Post 20004515)
Yes they were. We were in the midle of moving stuff to their servers when they realised they wanted to concentrate on their core sites.
So a change of policy in the company stopped that partnership.
That was in the summer 2013. The site has been on idle since then.

This is an accurate statement.

We decided to focus on our own properties. We liked their concept but we were unable to devote the resources to it that would have made it successful without losing focus on our brand; so unfortunately we had to respectfully and amicably part ways.

The right buyer imo would be someone looking for a turnkey solution for an amateur site network that has good access to amateurs to generate content and knows how to squeeze whatever juice is left from the tgp network.

Stephen 03-05-2014 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas007 (Post 20005153)
In your expense calculation you are missing the CMS or platform to hold the content and let the models upload and administrate their content.

That is the main asset that is worth buying.

I'm not trying to bust your balls, but this is likely the least valuable asset -- WordPress will perform those functions, is free, robust and has an enormous developer base to call on...

Why would someone buy an old, proprietary system instead?

SpicyM 03-05-2014 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 20005546)
I'm not trying to bust your balls, but this is likely the least valuable asset -- WordPress will perform those functions, is free, robust and has an enormous developer base to call on...

Why would someone buy an old, proprietary system instead?


The whole idea is not interesting anymore, thousands of amateur pics and videos are available for free on tubes, I actually wonder they even make those $300 per month.

Worth not more than $5k.

:2 cents:

Stephen 03-05-2014 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 20005569)
The whole idea is not interesting anymore ...

My problem is that I DO think the idea is interesting. I love amateur pics and videos and think this site has a great concept. I've had a similar project idling for a while and always hoped that Lifestyle Amateurs would succeed.

Having said that, I would have been happy to make $300k on that site, not spend that amount, and agree that the value is more in the $5k range today, and even then, it might be tough to make even that amount back...

At ~ $300/mo., that's a year and a half to break even on $5k.

Do you think that if left to idle, with no further work / investment, that it will still haul $300/mo. in mid- / late 2015?

I'm not picking on this site, there are MANY in the same boat...

lagcam 03-05-2014 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas007 (Post 20005159)
50k was spend on content.

Quote:

Originally Posted by myleene (Post 20004961)
How many videos are included? All the content has 2257s for it right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas007 (Post 20005149)
10-15 videos. There are 2257 docs.


You have to take more care with your answers Thomas. I don't think that you paid $50k for 10-15 videos did you?

I have to say that this is a very lazy sales thread. Clearly a lot of work went into the concept, and setup, but it is time to face reality and either better prepare your business to be sold or add a little more realism to your expectations.

A business that operates with monthly overheads of almost double its probably not very sustainable revenue even before any mention of how much of that revenue has to be shared with affiliates (which I assume you have as you are paying $150 a month for NATS) really needs to get its house in better order before presenting itself to the market.

I am not saying that it couldn't be worth $20k or thereabouts to the right buyer, I am just saying that you have to work a lot harder to sell a loss making business with potential than you do to sell something that actually makes money. :2 cents:

The Porn Nerd 03-05-2014 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas007 (Post 20005153)
I'm trying to be polite in the way I write. I would appreciate if you do the same.
In your expense calculation you are missing the CMS or platform to hold the content and let the models upload and administrate their content.

That is the main asset that is worth buying.

The TGP network is worth something to a seo network.
It's old domains.

OK I will be polite: you are delusional Sir.

10-15 videos and 300k spent? I ask again: ON WHAT?

The CMS is not worth 20k, the content is not worth 20k, the existing revenue is not worth 20k.....I am sorry but maybe the adult game is one you should not be playing. Take whatever $$$ you can and move on.

Sir.

PornDiscounts-R 03-05-2014 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20005734)
OK I will be polite: you are delusional Sir.

10-15 videos and 300k spent? I ask again: ON WHAT?

The CMS is not worth 20k, the content is not worth 20k, the existing revenue is not worth 20k.....I am sorry but maybe the adult game is one you should not be playing. Take whatever $$$ you can and move on.

Sir.

I like you, but man. You make yourself look very bad here. First of, link to the whole story in the OP`s first post. Read that and you will learn more about where and how those 300k was spent.
On top of that, saying that the adult game is not one they should play. Well, if you mean running paysites then point taken.
But overall, take a look in Thomas sig and a statement like that should not be made at all.

To finish, the honesty to tell the full story like they have takes some serious balls. Most would hide. So for me, huge respect to Thomas and Jeppe for what they have done.

Markul 03-05-2014 12:18 PM

Good luck with the sale, I think you'll be pressed to get what you ask but maybe someone will see the value of this and snatch it.

Feng-PD 03-05-2014 12:45 PM

I would rather buy your other sites : adultreviews and pornreviews :D

twistysglam 03-05-2014 12:58 PM

For a moment I thought I saw USD 20.00


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