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Lichen 12-27-2013 03:08 PM

What happened to eBay?
 
I used to buy and sell quite a few items on there. Here is what I've noticed:

Fees are crazy - figure 10% in transaction fees.

Buy it Now seems to be the norm. What happened to auctions?

Dickheads and scammers - I sold a Louis Vuitton purse for my GF and I've never had so many con artists send me emails with the craziest questions and requests. This was over the top but nearly everything I sell is a parade of dumbfucks asking to end the auction early or some other crazy plan to somehow fuck me over.

What's eBay's plan? Amazon has got such a head start that there is no way for them to catch up. Seems only a matter of time before some other upstart auction site starts up and moves most of the traffic.

marlboroack 12-27-2013 03:23 PM

Doesn't matter.. they own PayPal.
Amazon = Ebay...

Different CEO.. Different logo.. Different face. Same bank

ottopottomouse 12-27-2013 03:39 PM

I buy things from eBay on buy now.

I don't want to piss around for week trying to outbid everyone. Far too many of the bidders seem clueless as to what things cost and auctions often end higher (+ delivery!) than you could order brand new for nextday from a shop.

EddyTheDog 12-27-2013 03:42 PM

While Ebay doesn't seem to know what it wants to be people will move on - 90% of my purchases are on Amazon these days - The last time I looked at Ebay I got lost looking for what I wanted - Couldn't work out what the fuck was going on...

If I can't work out what's happening people like my mum - retired with a new card to max out every month - haven't got a chance.....

loreen 12-27-2013 03:45 PM

I still use eBay, lots of bargains if you take the time to look.

crockett 12-27-2013 03:51 PM

I still use ebay fairly often, in fact just made a order today. Amazon is good for new stuff, but it seems like I do better with ebay when it's used items. When selling, I've had the same experience when it came to people trying to get you to relist the auction. I just ignore them as there is no legit reason for me to relist if I have both a BIN and auction.

nexcom28 12-27-2013 03:54 PM

I don't know why people use auctions. I recently bought 4 robo fish for my daughter. Sharks. The BIN including postage was less than the auction end prices plus postage - and I didn't need to wait.

RandyRandy 12-27-2013 04:12 PM

Amazon + Craigslist = virtually all my annual buying and selling.

Elli 12-27-2013 04:15 PM

I skip the auctions unless it's a used item I really really must have, which is pretty rare. Buy It Now are the only listings I look at. Most of the items are the same price as Amazon though, in which case I go Amazon because I have a Prime account and I trust their buyer-seller accountability policies more.

Marcus Aurelius 12-27-2013 04:34 PM

Most of ebay is now drop ship junk from China. They have like 500 listings for the same POS 99 cent whatever it is.

It is just flooded with trash.

Around 1999 it was nothing like that. It was actual people in North America selling person to person.

Paul 12-27-2013 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 19924720)
Most of ebay is now drop ship junk from China. They have like 500 listings for the same POS 99 cent whatever it is.

It is just flooded with trash.

Around 1999 it was nothing like that. It was actual people in North America selling person to person.

Gumtree in the UK is exactly the same now, which is also owned by eBay.

Makes absolutely no sense to me why eBay allowed those type of traders to infest their listings. It must be doing much more harm than the fees they generate from them

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lichen (Post 19924605)
What's eBay's plan? Amazon has got such a head start that there is no way for them to catch up. Seems only a matter of time before some other upstart auction site starts up and moves most of the traffic.

I'd have to agree

Scott McD 12-27-2013 05:04 PM

Yeah Ebay is very 'hit & miss' for me these days.

You can still get a great deal with some things, but it's very easy to get fucked over aswell.

It's hardly even worth being a seller these days...

ladida 12-27-2013 09:41 PM

Only thing i find worthwhile there is chinese stuff and electronics. Everything else ends up costing more then if i bought straight from the shop. Especially auctions, but i believe sellers have automatic bidders if they dont get the price they want (not talking about the reserve).

ErectMedia 12-27-2013 09:43 PM

I buy little shit on buy it now here and there, cell phone cases etc... haven't tried to sell anything there in years though.

Rochard 12-27-2013 09:52 PM

I've been using Amazon. Not looking to "bid", just want to buy.

The Porn Nerd 12-27-2013 10:09 PM

Start the clock on ebay.
I give them 2 years, tops.

L-Pink 12-27-2013 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 19924720)
Most of ebay is now drop ship junk from China. They have like 500 listings for the same POS 99 cent whatever it is.

It is just flooded with trash.

Around 1999 it was nothing like that. It was actual people in North America selling person to person.

Well stated !

Spunky 12-27-2013 10:32 PM

I buy all my exotic skin boots and tools,vintage items on EBay,can't find the deals anywhere else

dyna mo 12-27-2013 10:37 PM

been doing well flipping gits on ebay. peeps have no idea how to sell shit on there, they post 1-2 blurry mobile phone pics and c&p the manufacturer's blurb on it and don't even take the time to clean it up, then to top it off, they list it for too much. after 2-3 cycles of listing it lower and lower, i swoop in and snag it, clean it up, take some schnazzy pics and include a little story about how this was my lucky/favorite git and do a real auction starting at .01c and watch the frenzy. even after ebay fees, i come out ahead.

Seth Manson 12-27-2013 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19924975)
been doing well flipping gits on ebay. peeps have no idea how to sell shit on there, they post 1-2 blurry mobile phone pics and c&p the manufacturer's blurb on it and don't even take the time to clean it up, then to top it off, they list it for too much. after 2-3 cycles of listing it lower and lower, i swoop in and snag it, clean it up, take some schnazzy pics and include a little story about how this was my lucky/favorite git and do a real auction starting at .01c and watch the frenzy. even after ebay fees, i come out ahead.

what is a git?

whOaKemosabe 12-27-2013 10:41 PM

What happened to eBay?

EddyTheDog 12-27-2013 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 19924978)
what is a git?

Ironically, it could be someone who picked up on other peoples typos to make themselves look clever...

"Stupid git" is a well used phrase here in the UK.....

dyna mo 12-27-2013 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 19924978)
what is a git?

guitar......

lagcam 12-27-2013 11:25 PM

I thought somebody had bumped a thread from 2007.

InfoGuy 12-28-2013 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladida (Post 19924926)
Only thing i find worthwhile there is chinese stuff and electronics. Everything else ends up costing more then if i bought straight from the shop. Especially auctions, but i believe sellers have automatic bidders if they dont get the price they want (not talking about the reserve).

Since fleabay masked all the usernames (i.e. g********f), it's now nearly impossible to tell if sellers are shilling their auctions. Less transparency means buyers get fucked.

Stephen 12-28-2013 07:32 AM

I've bought classic cars from ebay, wouldn't want to wast time on Chinese junk :2 cents:

anthonyb5615 01-08-2014 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 19924720)
Most of ebay is now drop ship junk from China. They have like 500 listings for the same POS 99 cent whatever it is.

It is just flooded with trash.

Around 1999 it was nothing like that. It was actual people in North America selling person to person.


There is still some bargains to be found, but I don't know why or how, but just like Marcus mentioned there are so many sellers from China. If us Americans can't afford the fee's how is it that the Chinese are able to pay it? I like ebay, but its got to change. Ebay has a lot of good deals on domain names. I bought a adult domain name on ebay for $10, that is worth $700. I can't wait for there next ebay convention because I think there will be a lot of unhappy people speaking there minds.

directfiesta 01-08-2014 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19924644)
While Ebay doesn't seem to know what it wants to be people will move on - 90% of my purchases are on Amazon these days - The last time I looked at Ebay I got lost looking for what I wanted - Couldn't work out what the fuck was going on...

If I can't work out what's happening people like my mum - retired with a new card to max out every month - haven't got a chance.....

I also now buy more on amazon .... even took their credit card ...

jimmycooper 01-08-2014 10:01 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/22/ma...ewanted=1&_r=0

sojproductions 01-08-2014 10:57 PM

I still use it occassionally for motorcycles parts and accessories but most of it is utter tat, takes ages to sift through.

pamon 01-08-2014 10:59 PM

people got sick of getting sniped during auctions, and the buy it now makes it more of a mall experience than an auction site.

mopek1 01-09-2014 05:16 AM

I'm getting fed up with ebay.

I don't have time to sift through the results only to click on one auction I like to find the shipping is 200% of the cost of the item. Then I have to keep reading for any fine print etc...

At the end of the day it is a waste of my time.

iSpyCams 01-09-2014 06:52 AM

Ebay has become flooded with Chinese sellers. It's been a pretty long time since there were auctions by actual people selling their own used stuff. I mean there are still a few but craigslist is where most of those people are now, who are fed up with the fees and the bullshit. Ebay is mostly people who cant or don't want to deal locally.

I mostly use it for guitar parts to use in my tinkering, and for a price check once in awhile. Other than that its useless.

PR_Glen 01-09-2014 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 19939203)
I'm getting fed up with ebay.

I don't have time to sift through the results only to click on one auction I like to find the shipping is 200% of the cost of the item. Then I have to keep reading for any fine print etc...

At the end of the day it is a waste of my time.

there lies the real problem... no regulation on shipping so people tack on stupid rates for shipping small items. Sellers that bid on their own crap with clone accounts until the prices are what they feel it should be, people bidding out of nowhere beating your bids by a dollar. Who wants to bother with that shit today?

silent auctions for borderline junk is an idiotic concept anyway. buy it now is the only thing keeping them relevant in todays market. craigslist is even more direct.

Rebel D 01-09-2014 07:43 AM

For me its the outrageous shipping costs. I collect 80's action figures. i can buy 1 figure for $5-$50 and shipping for it is like $35. thats just coming from Michigan to ontario.

Shap 01-09-2014 07:46 AM

I never use ebay. It's a pain. I usually buy everything from Amazon

Shap 01-09-2014 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lichen (Post 19924605)
I used to buy and sell quite a few items on there. Here is what I've noticed:

Fees are crazy - figure 10% in transaction fees.

Buy it Now seems to be the norm. What happened to auctions?

Dickheads and scammers - I sold a Louis Vuitton purse for my GF and I've never had so many con artists send me emails with the craziest questions and requests. This was over the top but nearly everything I sell is a parade of dumbfucks asking to end the auction early or some other crazy plan to somehow fuck me over.

What's eBay's plan? Amazon has got such a head start that there is no way for them to catch up. Seems only a matter of time before some other upstart auction site starts up and moves most of the traffic.

I was researching a startup last week that is raising money that has taken an interesting approach. It's called Shelf.com they seem to be trying to go after the market of people selling their unused items.

dyna mo 01-09-2014 07:48 AM

I too find stupid shipping costs. guitars for $103 shipping kinda shit. I've contacted the sellers in those cases and said I would like to bid but you have to charge fair shipping.

Many have said they will and then refund the difference. I've had a couple who promised to do so, then did not. I started a case against both of those and used the contact communications as proof, ebay sided with me.

Don't hesitate to open a case, ebay is very buyer-centric.

x-rate 01-09-2014 07:59 AM

I'm using it to buy cellphone case, cables and car parts... I like the buy it now option!

BFT3K 01-09-2014 08:15 AM

Here's how it goes on eBay...

1) Look, I'm selling something that's making me some money on eBay!

2) Look, 100 people here in the US noticed, and they're undercutting me, so now I am making less profit.

3) Look, the Chinese have noticed, and are now selling my product on eBay for less than it costs me to make it!

YIPPPY!


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