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ls101 05-14-2013 08:19 PM

Linux or Mac OS
 
Is it possible to install Linux in PC Computer? I mean Can I install Linux OS in my desktop?

Supz 05-14-2013 08:23 PM

yes ofcourse it is.

fris 05-14-2013 08:53 PM

i would vmware it first, to see if you like it

helterskelter808 05-14-2013 09:27 PM

You don't even have to install Linux. Download a LiveCD and run it from the CD to see if you're going to like it or not, but obviously give it a fair chance, it's different (and superior) to Windows, and remember it's going to be slower running from the CD than it is when it's installed.

There are shitloads of Linux distros, but Ubuntu, Mint and Arch are probably the most popular.

If you want to run OSX on your PC you'll need to get a hacked version, because although the hardware is the same these days, Apple employs ways to prevent it working on non-Apple PCs. Even with a hacked version certain things may not run correctly due to the hardware you have, or it may not install or work at all. Either way it's time consuming and quite a hassle to set up.

I would advise you not to waste your time with OSX (click here for the OSx86 project if you're interested though), but you should definitely try Linux.

shake 05-14-2013 09:28 PM

Yes, almost all people using linux (other than servers) are installed on normal laptop and desktop computers. There's definitely a learning curve, so as Fris said you should try it in a virtual environment or a spare computer to start. There are a ton of great applications, and if you learn the command line it opens up a whole new world of productivity.

ls101 05-14-2013 09:56 PM

Thanks for reply guys! Very informative!

Anyway, I ask because I purchase a new desktop with 16GB of RAM and 2TB of Hard disk it is the highest among all of my PC here in my home office.

helterskelter808 05-14-2013 10:20 PM

You don't even need a modern PC to run Linux. Ubuntu is relatively bloated (still nothing like Windows) and slow on older hardware, but you can use Linux on a 486 upwards (support for 386s was dropped a few months ago, you'll be disappointed to hear). I have an 8 year old laptop with Ubuntu 12.04 (with XFCE).

Ferus 05-14-2013 10:25 PM

Xubuntu.org is great to work with, and easy to install.

leg4 05-14-2013 10:31 PM

I really like Virtual Box, get it... its free and very stable.

You can install almost any OS


https://www.virtualbox.org/


Cheers!

helterskelter808 05-14-2013 10:34 PM

^ Indeed. Why use Windows when you can use Linux and install Windows within it, with Virtualbox.

ls101 05-14-2013 10:40 PM

Currently testing ubuntu is it really normal that the OS will hang every now and then? If not what is the problem in this?

ls101 05-14-2013 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19625406)
^ Indeed. Why use Windows when you can use Linux and install Windows within it, with Virtualbox.

Yes, some of my softwares needs to be Linux base or Mac OS got a huge mistake though I should buy Apple Desktop from the start!

ls101 05-14-2013 10:52 PM

And by the way how to install exe softwares of run it in ubuntu?

mineistaken 05-14-2013 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ls101 (Post 19625414)
though I should buy Apple Desktop from the start!

Nope, no need to overpay for logo. Linux :thumbsup
I hear Mint is easiest for novice user.

helterskelter808 05-14-2013 11:15 PM

If you're using a LiveCD it may be 'hanging' because the CD is being accessed. That won't happen when it's installed on the HD.

As for needing OSX, if it's for developing iPhone apps there may be solutions for that, but you can install OSx86 on Virtualbox within Linux (I've done it, out of curiosity mainly, but I never use it).

ls101 05-14-2013 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19625445)
If you're using a LiveCD it may be 'hanging' because the CD is being accessed. That won't happen when it's installed on the HD.

As for needing OSX, if it's for developing iPhone apps there may be solutions for that, but you can install OSx86 on Virtualbox within Linux (I've done it, out of curiosity mainly, but I never use it).

Where can I download the OSx86 by the way!

helterskelter808 05-14-2013 11:35 PM

You'll have to use your imagination where to download it from.

When I did it a few years ago, it required a hacked version (you'll have to Google to see what versions are out there, like I said it's time consuming). Apparently now though you can use a legit, non-hacked, copy of OSX and use a customized boot disk to start the install process.

Remember, if you're acquiring an operating system from anywhere but the official source, it may contain all kinds of nasty shit.

Klen 05-15-2013 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19625433)
Nope, no need to overpay for logo. Linux :thumbsup
I hear Mint is easiest for novice user.

Mint is good for advanced users as well,i was able to make my own version of mint.

fris 05-15-2013 05:39 AM

http://www.thoughtpolice.co.uk/vmware/#ubuntu

here is a list of vmware images you can download for instant setup

candyflip 05-15-2013 06:15 AM

I triple boot between them all on my Hackintosh, that I just built.

Installing OSX on it was just as easy as it was to install it on any of my Macs. Everything works and updates. No issues or worries.

fris 05-15-2013 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 19625717)
I triple boot between them all on my Hackintosh, that I just built.

Installing OSX on it was just as easy as it was to install it on any of my Macs. Everything works and updates. No issues or worries.

i use vmware fusion on my mac with ubuntu so i can test locally on ubuntu and run shell scripts for testing.

candyflip 05-15-2013 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 19625741)
i use vmware fusion on my mac with ubuntu so i can test locally on ubuntu and run shell scripts for testing.

I hardly use it. I just wanted to say I built something that could run all three.

My girl got this little Fusion 64gb USB fob that has Fusion and 2-3 of her VMs, and she carries it with her pretty much all the time.

freecartoonporn 05-15-2013 10:42 AM

yes. you can.

oscer 05-15-2013 10:55 AM

I use centos with gnome for my desktop

blazin 05-15-2013 11:18 AM

Centos on servers... Ubuntu on desktop (use it more as a home media server/development environment)
Mac OS on my laptop

Aidoru 05-15-2013 02:19 PM

Real mean use Slackware

Zyzz 05-15-2013 02:28 PM

http://www.tonymacx86.com/

Great resource for starting with Hackintos :)

candyflip 05-15-2013 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Zyzz (Post 19626549)
http://www.tonymacx86.com/

Great resource for starting with Hackintos :)

Yep...just buy from his list and you're good to go.

helterskelter808 05-15-2013 06:45 PM

Tonymacx86 is regarded as a scumbag within the OSx86 community. I would advise people to stay away from his shit.

ls101 05-15-2013 11:33 PM

Anyway guys, I tried to install MacOSx after installing it, my PC stuck at apple logo! literally its hang!

Ferus 05-16-2013 12:13 AM

If you go the Ubuntu/xubuntu way, check out "Time Tracker" from "project hamster"
I use it every day, and when they release the new Ubuntu version for mobile-phones, I hope this port well.

By far the best time-tracker and reporting tool I have ever used.

ls101 05-16-2013 06:03 AM

The main reason why I wanted to use Mac OS X Because I am going to use http://www.marketcircle.com/daylite/ I hope that anyone from here can get me to the right way where to download the working Mac OS X since I downloaded at TPB it seems not working at all! :(

candyflip 05-16-2013 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19626871)
Tonymacx86 is regarded as a scumbag within the OSx86 community. I would advise people to stay away from his shit.

Is that because he doesn't like the groups putting out hacked distros anymore...because there's no need?

candyflip 05-16-2013 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ls101 (Post 19627090)
Anyway guys, I tried to install MacOSx after installing it, my PC stuck at apple logo! literally its hang!

Post the specifics of your computer. I can point you in the right direction.

It's not easy to just grab a computer off of the store shelves and run OSX on it. Something like that will take work, if it's possible. There are some specific parts they've tested to make sure work with OSX. There's a list on the site linked above to help you get the right parts.

ls101 05-16-2013 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 19627347)
Post the specifics of your computer. I can point you in the right direction.

It's not easy to just grab a computer off of the store shelves and run OSX on it. Something like that will take work, if it's possible. There are some specific parts they've tested to make sure work with OSX. There's a list on the site linked above to help you get the right parts.

I'm gonna test in my old PC this time. I have the following specs:

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/5002/cpugy.jpg

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8184/graphicsuu.jpg

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4507/memorykk.jpg

candyflip 05-16-2013 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ls101 (Post 19627368)

It's entirely possible that the newest version of can't be installed on Core 2 Duo machines. I don't think it's possible to load it onto some of the older Macs either. Older versions have worked with your processor / motherboard set up. So, people HAVE done it.

You might need to look into a hacked OSX distro, if you really want to load it on there. I know that there are hacked versions of Mountain Lion for older Mac hardware, so I'm sure it's out there for non-Apple gear as well. Google iAtkos for more on that.

Building with pre-tested parts is your best bet. You can do it for $250 if you want to play around:


ls101 05-16-2013 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 19627382)
It's entirely possible that the newest version of can't be installed on Core 2 Duo machines. I don't think it's possible to load it onto some of the older Macs either. Older versions have worked with your processor / motherboard set up. So, people HAVE done it.

You might need to look into a hacked OSX distro, if you really want to load it on there. I know that there are hacked versions of Mountain Lion for older Mac hardware, so I'm sure it's out there for non-Apple gear as well. Google iAtkos for more on that.

Building with pre-tested parts is your best bet. You can do it for $250 if you want to play around:



I think I do not need to buy new hardware since I have all of these what I have in my mind right now is that how to get OS X too complicated. But this is a thousand dollar contract for a year.

candyflip 05-16-2013 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ls101 (Post 19627429)
I think I do not need to buy new hardware since I have all of these what I have in my mind right now is that how to get OS X too complicated. But this is a thousand dollar contract for a year.

You'll have to use one of the hacked distros, probably of version 10.5 - 10.6. Search iAtkos in Google. You'll find all the info you need.

helterskelter808 05-16-2013 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 19627344)
Is that because he doesn't like the groups putting out hacked distros anymore...because there's no need?

No need for hacked distros any more, and yet you're telling this guy he has to download a hacked distro. :error

He is disliked because he steals other people's hard work and passes it off as his own and his motivation is not helping the OSx86 community but leeching from it and trying to profit from it.

I don't know, or care, what his opinion is on "hacked distros", but his site is for clueless noobs who don't know any better and who waste money when they don't need to.

Not pointing any fingers though.

helterskelter808 05-16-2013 09:33 AM

ls101, the real OSx86 community is here:

http://www.osx86project.org

Read the Wiki and search the Insanely Mac forums, and ask questions there, where you'll get honest answers from people who aren't trying to make a buck from you and who actually have a clue what they're talking about.

If your copy of OSX is legit, meaning it's a retail version (regardless of how you acquired it) you can potentially install it with Boot 132.

Google 'OSX boot 132' for more info about it. As I said in my first post, OSX is a time consuming hassle.


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