Manwin USA to Match Donations to No on Gov't Waste Campaign
 

According to AVN:

Link to AVN Article.

Wow! That is a lot of money.:2 cents:

Now is just about your last chance to make a difference. Go for it if you can.:thumbsup

Noted the Manwin USA part. Don't wanna be breaking the law and sending money from a pesky foreign company.

their paying tho :)

I am speechless....this is an amazing contribution and hopefully a motivator for all in this industry to contribute NOW.

Stop it, take a nap, come back refreshed. You are deterring from the point here when you actually support the cause.

Bump, still not too late!

Manwin USA even exists?

If it didn't already exist it takes about 10 minutes to register a company in the US.

Huh? Was there or was there not a lawsuit filed because they sent $75k from their Luxunberg company?

Wasn't slamming them, just pointing out now they are clear to write "Manwin USA" from their donations, instead of just "Manwin." Considering everyone has always just called them Manwin, it was worth noting Rob posted "Manwin USA" like a good boy.

Isn't everyone voting on this matter Tuesday? How will they be deploying the money raised between now and Tuesday?

Lol and its a weekend and banks are mostly closed, I wondered this as well. Just to process proper corporate donations to right departments etc, seriously lol.

Magic Cash Buttons on the no on b website LOL

:D I was trying to stay out of the negative comments on this lol, I love DWB and known him and worked with him for a long time, and not you so much. But when I saw this I just calculated in my head for a sec and just nothing but BS popped up and realized you guys were right :D So I let a bit of negative post on it come out lol.

Not sure, but I'd bet Paul Markham would like to tell you how they should do it.

There is plenty of work that can still be done Monday and Tuesday. And on top of that we already paid the expected matching to the campaign since we knew our commitment to match would get others to donate and many did Thursday and Friday.

It is sad how much hate some of you must have for this industry considering the lengths you go to to make it look stupid.

I am proud about many many other companies that have shown that the real people in the industry, the ones that actually matter, understand what's best for it and are willing to help.

It is actually a legitimate question. Just about all forms of offline advertising take time to put together. There are account executives, account managers, etc. that all have to put their hands in the pie. You can't put a billboard up overnight, you can't buy stickers for the newspapers overnight, etc. so the question stands what can possibly happen between now and Tuesday?

An answer of "put people out near polling places with signs" or "pay for canvassers" would be perfectly acceptable.

No answer is suspect.

Actually you can. Electronic bill boards are getting more and more popular
Advertising in Facebook is also a very efficient place to put ads up

Fabian, this never ceases to amaze me how these cocksuckers 'chew on the hand that feeds them' :2 cents:

So that's the answer to the simple question? Electronic billboards and Facebook campaign? Because I see no answers.

Yes, this. I wasn't trying to be too negative, it just seems this coming on Friday when banks close major biz until monday and the proccessing to get the money to right places and buy ad spots that have probably been booked years in advance for this crunch time just seemed very odd at best. sorry if I have lived in this world and esspecially this non-stop scamming biz these past few years and nothing but red lights popped up :)

I'm just curious if the money will be spent for the intended purpose or if it will be put in an arsenal that will go to something else in the future which may benefit a few but not the entire industry. Its like when there is an outpouring of donations to the Red Cross after a disaster. Your donation doesn't always go to what you intended.

If money is leftover that goes to subsidizing testing why would I want my money to go to that since nobody I personally know (well one person would) would benefit?

It does not matter if this is a legitimate question. It should not even be asked. The question screams "we think they just want to take our money for themself" - that's simply not true, and anyone believing this listens to much to wankers like mike and dwb.

You mean Manwin keeping the money? That thought has never crossed my mind.

What has crossed my mind is the money not being spent in time and then going into testing which doesn't benefit condom studios that do not shoot in LA.

Edit: this would all make sense to me if it were three months before election day, not three days.

Yea, listen to honest companies like manwin. lol, fucking thieves.

Epitone: there are a Lot of short notice things that can be done, the campaign could spend much more, and since we have ad relationships re TV already, we can likely even extend the ad campaign there on Monday and over the weekend, since those are paid later not pre-paid in full, so no additional money usually needs to flow prior to them airing.

LOL THANK YOU! That is all I was curious about. Is if the funds could even effectively be deployed between now and Tuesday. Sounds like they can through a pre-orchestrated media blitz.

Personally in a weird predicament where question 8 doesn't affect me one way or another today. As a gay condom studio it doesn't. As a gay condom studio not in LA it really doesn't. So if Sally Cockrider is going to get some free testing because the money wasn't spent that doesn't do jack shit for me. THAT is what I wondered about.

Now 8 CAN personally affect me because we don't need every other jurisdiction that knows porn is being shot there (e.g., Vegas, Miami, etc.) to get the same idea as LA.

(I think the subsidized testing is a brilliant idea, don't get me wrong there... but I don't need to be subsidizing Sally Cockrider but instead want to subsidize Mark Cockrider)

Epitome, every single person testing from the industry is subsidized. We do it this way because we do not know if Sally shoots for just us or 5 companies. Our exclusive talent does not pay for tests at all.

Maybe the fund could be split in gay and non gay talent.

Measure B?
Question 8

Yes. 8, B, 6, 9, 7.

Sadly I am now intimately familiar with the measures on ballots in three states. Hard to keep them all sorted in my head.

So gay talent can get tested too under the program? For instance, do the Men.com models participate in APHSS?

Actually, it seems like it's split 50/50 with gay studios that require condoms AND testing...so let me rephrase... if Men.com uses condoms AND testing can the models participate?

Due to the risk of condom failure, I think everyone performing should be tested.

Just my opinion.

Mine, too, but that isn't reality.

If a studio doesn't test I hope they will at least cover PEP if there is an exposure. I think that runs about $2k or so.

I'm glad you reconsidered and answered epitome.

Epitome: yes all Talent has to Test via APHSS, including men.com.

Nemesis: epitome asked very differently. I did not answer the other guy.

I dont know of anyone who thinks condom use would displace testing.

My research on this topic has led me to the conclusion that there really is an incidence rate of STDs in this industry that is FAR TOO HIGH.

Every study indicates this and yet nobody who says otherwise can site or is willing to fund a study to indicate that it isnt.

All differences aside this is going to bury us....we HAVE to figure a way to get this under control

I was appalled to learn that performers self medicate prior to testing, that they visit non industry clinics when they think they have an std between tests, they get treated at these non industry clinics and continue to work on the industry clinic test.

They make runs to TJ to stock up on Z-Packs and other antibiotics and resell them to performers for the above self medication.

and I was told this by performers who actually do it...and they say it is very widespread.

I dont care what side of this you are on this is going to really harm this biz we have got to address this.

1) It's not hate. It is simply not caring about if condoms have to be used in US porn or not, and seeing through all the bullshit and fear mongering your camp is trying to spread.

2) It isn't very difficult to make this industry look stupid. It does a fine job of doing that itself, usually with the FSC leading the parade.


Before I even had time to write that you would not get a real answer, only a condensending one, see Nathan's post below...

Yea, just give your money, no questions asked, to an organization who can't even show you who they are in their whois profile, no one can tell you a single name of the people running it, there is no list of exactly where the money is going, and who is in bed with the largest pirate operation in the world who has already had at least one run in with the government for money laundering. Sounds legit.

The industries biggest thief, liar, and back door programming scammer calls two honest guys in the business wankers. Ain't that something. :1orglaugh Not sure how I'll make it through the day.

But lets get some facts straight. You are a thief who runs the most unethical business in the history of the porn industry. However, this "wanker" has never ripped off a single person, ever, or stolen so much as a single image, and I run a honest business. People don't call me "unethical" or say I'm a thief. And I'm sure the same can be said about the other wanker.

The only reason you are where you are is because of piracy, money and the desperation of everyone around you. Otherwise you'd still just be another chubby programmer back-dooring data from a stats company. But you already know this.

Whatever the case, you're all going to be using condoms for your shoots soon. And unlike how you bought Mr. Marcus and tried to buy Derrick Burts, you won't be able to buy your way out of this one. And we both know that infuriates you. Have a good day.

I can't listen to your sound logic anymore, Lord Fabian said you're a wanker.

DWB, you do not even comprehend 95% of what is going on. This measure's reason of existance has absolutely nothing to do with using condoms in porn and it has everything to do with trying to eradicate hardcore production in LA.

You also do not grasp that nobody involved in the campaign has ANY reason to justify themself financially towards someone that only cares about spreading things he does not understand but might make someone else look bad while not supporting the campaign.

I understand completely and believe this is fear mongering at it's best. Passing safety regulations will not regulate hardcore production in LA. And even if it did, build more windmills.


I donated money, send a mailer out to about 20,000 people, and put banners on a lot of my sites. Fuck you. I'll now be removing the banners. Oh, and I didn't even make a stink when I donated and saw that it was going to a Manwin account, even though you said Manwin does not control the money. Just another lie. Not surprised.

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So tell me again how Manwin doesn't control the donations and doesn't have their hands in this? Because the story is fascinating. Really.

Seriously, are you that stupid?

Because the account says major funding is from Manwin USA, somehow it is our account?

God man, grow a friggin brain.