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mikesouth 10-05-2012 09:41 AM

You Heard It First From me Manwin To Open Talent Agency in L.A.
 
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Fabian is now going into the Talent Agent Business

It will be run by Gianna Michaels, Gianna currently works simultaneously for both Reality Kings as a booker / production manager and also as an agent for the unlicensed and unbonded talent agency Valley Babes owned by Lee Bang. Gianna was a model for Lee throughout her own modeling career.

The new agency will be housed at Reality Kings offices at:

1430 Strathern St, #K,
Canoga Park, CA 91304

Manwin has had a small agency in South Florida for a while now and they have been trying to buy agencies in L.A. but nobody would sell to them.

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Brujah 10-05-2012 09:47 AM

When will Manwin get into billing?

xNetworx 10-05-2012 09:50 AM

I wonder if other agencies are worried

NaughtyRob 10-05-2012 09:52 AM

#Manwinning

baddog 10-05-2012 09:53 AM

Makes sense, why wouldn't they?

pornlaw 10-05-2012 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19234056)
Makes sense, why wouldn't they?

Under the Talent Agencies Act it would be a conflict of interest...

California Labor Code section 1700.40;

Quote:

(b) No talent agency may refer an artist to any person, firm, or corporation in which the talent agency has a direct or indirect financial interest for other services to be rendered to the artist, including, but not limited to, photography, audition tapes, demonstration reels or similar materials, business management, personal management, coaching, dramatic school, casting or talent brochures, agency-client directories, or other printing.

(c) No talent agency may accept any referral fee or similar compensation from any person, association, or corporation providing services of any type expressly set forth in subdivision (b) to an artist under contract with the talent agency.

JFK 10-05-2012 10:11 AM

another scoop for Mike:thumbsup:thumbsup

v4 media 10-05-2012 10:12 AM

Just wondering how you get away with that massive sig? you got some secret on Eric/Theo they dont want coming out?:1orglaugh

mikesouth 10-05-2012 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 19234084)
Under the Talent Agencies Act it would be a conflict of interest...

California Labor Code section 1700.40;

Thanks Michael...I had a feeling there was a conflict there but somehow I dont think thats the only conflict that Manwin has with CA law.

Harmon 10-05-2012 10:15 AM

Oh snapples!

CyberHustler 10-05-2012 10:18 AM

:1orglaugh

mikesouth 10-05-2012 10:20 AM

I would also look for changes in that office rather quickly considering Mike Moz and Monstars less than stellar performance as PR People at Digital Playground and that Moz used to work for Derek Hay at L.A. Direct I would expect him to be moved pretty quickly.

Barefootsies 10-05-2012 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 19234084)
Under the Talent Agencies Act it would be a conflict of interest...

California Labor Code section 1700.40;

This is actually true. :pimp

Open a history book, and read up on MCA and Lou Wasserman. Same shit, new decade.

:2 cents:

alias 10-05-2012 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 19234084)
Under the Talent Agencies Act it would be a conflict of interest...

California Labor Code section 1700.40;

I for one am shocked.

CaptainHowdy 10-05-2012 10:23 AM

The Empire Strikes Back!

LeRoy 10-05-2012 10:25 AM

Que the deathstar theme :thumbsup

Robbie 10-05-2012 10:27 AM

That's pretty funny.

So now Manwin is almost the only game in town for production already.
Talent will have to go to Manwin's Talent Agency and pay them a percentage to be booked to work for Manwin's Porn Companies and of course be tested by Manwin's STD testing center.

And then the entire porn industry will be run out of Los Angeles (as is already happening) and Manwin will own a bunch of empty buildings. lol

Robbie 10-05-2012 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 19234042)
When will Manwin get into billing?

Probably buying CC Bill as we speak.

NemesisEnforcer 10-05-2012 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19234098)
Thanks Michael...I had a feeling there was a conflict there but somehow I dont think thats the only conflict that Manwin has with CA law.

Presently, Manwin also have daily conflicts with US Federal laws.

fitzmulti 10-05-2012 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19234117)
I would also look for changes in that office rather quickly considering Mike Moz and Monstars less than stellar performance as PR People at Digital Playground and that Moz used to work for Derek Hay at L.A. Direct I would expect him to be moved pretty quickly.

"less than stellar", at least as far as Moz goes, is quite the UNDERSTATEMENT.

Fat Panda 10-05-2012 10:48 AM

report this shit to the authorities!

BareBacked 10-05-2012 10:49 AM

sounds like chasing pennies.
guess they are in it for first crack at the talent pool

Radical Bucks 10-05-2012 10:51 AM

Fuck Manwin and anyone who works with and for them!

mikesouth 10-05-2012 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornopete (Post 19234201)
:2 cents::2 cents:

Mike if you put as much effort into growing your business as you do trying to figure out everybody elses, I'm sure you would be successful.


My business does just fine thank you.

Robbie 10-05-2012 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BareBacked (Post 19234202)
guess they are in it for first crack at the talent pool

It's another good way to finish off the few remaining companies they want to acquire who haven't sold to them yet.

You force all the talent to only work with your talent agency (because Manwin has the most work for them), and then you don't allow any of them to work for the companies you want to buy.

In other words...Naughty America you are going to have to sell to Manwin.

Is there anybody else left of that size for Manwin to assimilate?

davethedope 10-05-2012 11:04 AM

Is this just good business?

Think of it, you have an industry full of self interested, independent, entrepreneurs- some of whom just got lucky by getting into the internet early.

Everything was decentralized, no webmaster associations per se.

So, along comes a group who, to their credit, identifies the inherent weakness of what amount to hundreds of small businesses in a market where product differentiation is next to zero.

The company starts putting the pieces together and pretty much forces the hand of the independent business owners.

mechanicvirus 10-05-2012 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davethedope (Post 19234218)
Is this just good business?

Think of it, you have an industry full of self interested, independent, entrepreneurs- some of whom just got lucky by getting into the internet early.

Everything was decentralized, no webmaster associations per se.

So, along comes a group who, to their credit, identifies the inherent weakness of what amount to hundreds of small businesses in a market where product differentiation is next to zero.

The company starts putting the pieces together and pretty much forces the hand of the independent business owners.

I believe they call that walmartization.

Paul Markham 10-05-2012 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davethedope (Post 19234218)
Is this just good business?

Think of it, you have an industry full of self interested, independent, entrepreneurs- some of whom just got lucky by getting into the internet early.

Everything was decentralized, no webmaster associations per se.

So, along comes a group who, to their credit, identifies the inherent weakness of what amount to hundreds of small businesses in a market where product differentiation is next to zero.

The company starts putting the pieces together and pretty much forces the hand of the independent business owners.

TBH this industry was, always dominated by big companies. Then came the Internet and we had 1,000s of Ma & Pa operations who fucked it up. Guys working from home with get rich quick mentalities who were all fighting each other over traffic. On one hand you had sponsors doing what ever they could to put affiliates first and affiliates demanding way too much and being given so much a fool could make some money.

Now the decline is set in there will be a handful of medium companies left and a couple of big ones. The Ma & Pa will be of little consequence except in Micro niche or like you with a super girl. Even those as you know are feeling the pinch.

For most of you. The fat lady will soon be singing.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5AurdT9GYA...00/fatlady.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by BareBacked (Post 19234202)
sounds like chasing pennies.
guess they are in it for first crack at the talent pool

If they can find new talent in LA it makes sense. No one company can dominate experienced talent, while there are others to work for.

signupdamnit 10-05-2012 12:29 PM

Not to defend Manwin (haha!) but they are so big that I can see why they would want to get more control over the supply line for their product. It's only natural. I hope it doesn't lead to less competition though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19234401)
TBH this industry was, always dominated by big companies. Then came the Internet and we had 1,000s of Ma & Pa operations who fucked it up. Guys working from home with get rich quick mentalities who were all fighting each other over traffic. On one hand you had sponsors doing what ever they could to put affiliates first and affiliates demanding way too much and being given so much a fool could make some money.

Now the decline is set in there will be a handful of medium companies left and a couple of big ones. The Ma & Pa will be of little consequence except in Micro niche or like you with a super girl. Even those as you know are feeling the pinch.

For most of you. The fat lady will soon be singing.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5AurdT9GYA...00/fatlady.jpg



If they can find new talent in LA it makes sense. No one company can dominate experienced talent, while there are others to work for.

Affiliates were the ones with all the traffic that's why they called the shots. It only changed when companies came along and started hiding behind DMCA law in order to amass large amounts of traffic by using the content of others without their permission. It's easy to forget that. If it weren't for Mansef and the gang in 2006 and 2007 with their tubes affiliates would still rule the roost. Google helped a bit too with some of their changes but for the most part it's sites like Pornhub who took the traffic from the affiliates.

But don't rejoice over the death of affiliates just yet if you're a sponsor who hated affiliates. The same conditions are also destroying pay site sales in general as porn becomes free.

signupdamnit 10-05-2012 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 19234084)
Under the Talent Agencies Act it would be a conflict of interest...

California Labor Code section 1700.40;

Interesting...

PR_Dave 10-05-2012 12:41 PM

Who cares.

RyuLion 10-05-2012 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamBoss (Post 19234048)
I wonder if other agencies are worried

I know they will..they will eventually become the IBM of of porn..

RyuLion 10-05-2012 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 19234084)
Under the Talent Agencies Act it would be a conflict of interest...

California Labor Code section 1700.40;

oh wow! very nice!

Redrob 10-05-2012 01:31 PM

I think the correct term is "vertical integration" of the business.

mikesouth 10-05-2012 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob (Post 19234565)
I think the correct term is "vertical integration" of the business.


I think the correct term is Racketeering

Paul Markham 10-05-2012 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19234420)
Affiliates were the ones with all the traffic that's why they called the shots.

This is true and I blame sponsors for giving you the tools to call the shots. Seems you did a great job of destroying yourselves.

Quote:

It only changed when companies came along and started hiding behind DMCA law in order to amass large amounts of traffic by using the content of others without their permission. It's easy to forget that. If it weren't for Mansef and the gang in 2006 and 2007 with their tubes affiliates would still rule the roost. Google helped a bit too with some of their changes but for the most part it's sites like Pornhub who took the traffic from the affiliates.
Affiliates became too expensive and too much trouble. Plus they had given away so much content, Tubes were the next logical step.

And affiliates took traffic from sponsors. Adapt or die.

Quote:

But don't rejoice over the death of affiliates just yet if you're a sponsor who hated affiliates. The same conditions are also destroying pay site sales in general as porn becomes free.
I was reliant never on paysite sales to make a living.

Let's assume for a minute it becomes very illegal to have a tube site with user uploaded pirated content. Then what?

Every Tube owner will have to go through their servers with a fine tooth comb. Then every Tube site will either shrink or disappear. As you say traffic is king, except traffic are real people and they will stay viewing porn on Pornhub, Youtube, etc. Because content is a magnet the traffic loves.

The days of the Ma & Pa operations are mostly over or coming to an end, except for a few with micro niche or a super girl.

In the good old days many yearn for, The Hun would accept a gallery from anyone. Today few submit to him. Pornhub won't be giving affiliates an account, they will only give it to sponsors who will give them the affiliates cut.

I accept my time is over, because of health and no need to work. Many more need to realise that.

Quote:

Not to defend Manwin (haha!) but they are so big that I can see why they would want to get more control over the supply line for their product. It's only natural. I hope it doesn't lead to less competition though.
That for a sponsor like Manwin is a bad move. They need to go to the guys who can shoot bast and find the best girls. That's why so many porn companies outsourced porn production. Barely Legal could never find the amount of Babes I could. I'm just 1 of 100 or 200 shooters all working the same way.

DWB 10-05-2012 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamBoss (Post 19234048)
I wonder if other agencies are worried

They should be.

digitalfantasies 10-05-2012 03:23 PM

I heard this first from you

RevSand 10-05-2012 03:46 PM

I had heard of the talks with other agencies sometime back. I still would not be surprised if they took a piece of one of the bigger ones sooner then later. They will not DIRECTLY own it but will invest enough to control it. Think FSC and Cutting Edge.. :2 cents:


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