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sake 09-11-2012 01:19 PM

Is AVS dead? Anyone does it ?
 
So is it dead or ppl are still making money with it in 2012?

Horny Dude 09-11-2012 01:58 PM

I say dead. I think most of the AVS companies are belly up. I miss the AVS days.

rogueteens 09-11-2012 02:11 PM

i still do it, i've been getting pretty good coversion ratios with my AVS sites.

VenusBlogger 09-11-2012 02:18 PM

Depends.. there are not many systems left..

Is AdultBouncer still around?

Deluxepass died, same as adultsallowed, or jans.. What about pornaccess from joel? (gamma).

Man, I used to have 1200 members in those networks, rebilling at 12-15 per month, just do the math. Really miss those days.

Unfortunately sexkey (from the evil guy, linked to titan?) has no revshare option.

I think a new AVS system should show up, but something more concentrated in unique fetish sites or such.. It would really work, seriously. It's just that people copy each other and one day someone said: Make all paysites like TUBE style and make AVS die, and all followed that path.

Wizzo 09-11-2012 02:20 PM

Sexkey is still turning and burning! :thumbsup

lucas131 09-11-2012 03:25 PM

where the hell is my adultcheck gold id ...

WebCashMaker 09-11-2012 04:01 PM

Back in like 1999 we opened an AdultBouncer site, put some galleries on thehun and in a very short time had a lot of members.

They we opened up our own paysite because it did'nt make sense to split the money with AdultBouncer. We redirected all our traffic to our own paysites and AdultBouncer asked us to come back. We did'nt have to since we were already converting and retaining our own members.

I never understood why use and AVS when you can open your own paysite.












Mathieu

lucas131 09-11-2012 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebCashMaker (Post 19183280)
Back in like 1999 we opened an AdultBouncer site, put some galleries on thehun and in a very short time had a lot of members.

They we opened up our own paysite because it did'nt make sense to split the money with AdultBouncer. We redirected all our traffic to our own paysites and AdultBouncer asked us to come back. We did'nt have to since we were already converting and retaining our own members.

I never understood why use and AVS when you can open your own paysite.












Mathieu

because you dont need to solve billing and tracking system? :2 cents:

the Shemp 09-11-2012 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebCashMaker (Post 19183280)
Back in like 1999 we opened an AdultBouncer site, put some galleries on thehun and in a very short time had a lot of members.

They we opened up our own paysite because it did'nt make sense to split the money with AdultBouncer. We redirected all our traffic to our own paysites and AdultBouncer asked us to come back. We did'nt have to since we were already converting and retaining our own members.

I never understood why use and AVS when you can open your own paysite.


Mathieu

in the old days, it was definitely billing...being in canada, ccbill and epoch couldnt take us, so we had to use Sypro and Lancelot...when they went down, we went to Netverifier AVS and i still have sites there..

VenusBlogger 09-11-2012 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebCashMaker (Post 19183280)
I never understood why use and AVS when you can open your own paysite.

Mathieu

because for non-us or non-europe webmasters, its like impossible to open a PAYSITE...

You need to have a registered office and ADDRESS in Europe or USA to have CCBILL or EPOCH approve you.. otherwise forget it.

Not sure if there is some trick to register a UK LIMITED COMPANY for 300 bucks and there is a way to have an addrees of UK to register in EPOCH.. any ideas?

Well, if there is some trick nobody here will tell me, that's for sure... but im sure there must be some way.

edgeprod 09-11-2012 08:56 PM

SexKey is still on fire, as it has been for years.

TheSenator 09-11-2012 11:01 PM

I miss the AgeCheck vs AdultCheck war.

I made tons of cash of CyberAge back in the day.

Dirty F 09-11-2012 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 19183414)
because for non-us or non-europe webmasters, its like impossible to open a PAYSITE...

You need to have a registered office and ADDRESS in Europe or USA to have CCBILL or EPOCH approve you.. otherwise forget it.

Not sure if there is some trick to register a UK LIMITED COMPANY for 300 bucks and there is a way to have an addrees of UK to register in EPOCH.. any ideas?

Well, if there is some trick nobody here will tell me, that's for sure... but im sure there must be some way.

What the hell are you talking about?

garce 09-11-2012 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebCashMaker (Post 19183280)
Back in like 1999 we opened an AdultBouncer site, put some galleries on thehun and in a very short time had a lot of members.

They we opened up our own paysite because it did'nt make sense to split the money with AdultBouncer. We redirected all our traffic to our own paysites and AdultBouncer asked us to come back. We did'nt have to since we were already converting and retaining our own members.

I never understood why use and AVS when you can open your own paysite.

Mathieu

Never used AVS for my own content. I put sponsor (promo galleries) content behind the AVS. They were all cool with it as long as I had their links and banners on the front page and on any inside page. Upsells were amazing. Sponsors were happy to give me content to build AVS sites a loooong time ago.

The AVS from Topbucks - forget its name - was sort-lived, but it kicked ass. One Verify? Was that it? That AVS killed.

spankitmedia 09-11-2012 11:19 PM

I never had any problems with AVS. I really liked their scraper. However, I think MechBunny is much more powerful

sake 09-11-2012 11:37 PM

Ok so from your replies i see it is still possible to do it.
We have tons of content and free man power so i was thinking about this...
What are best way to drag traffic to AVS these days ? Any good advice?

BIGTYMER 09-11-2012 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sake (Post 19183935)
Ok so from your replies i see it is still possible to do it.
We have tons of content and free man power so i was thinking about this...
What are best way to drag traffic to AVS these days ? Any good advice?

The same way you drive traffic to any site. AVS doesn't require special traffic.

40obfam 09-11-2012 11:51 PM

sake, specifically for you Adult-Empire :thumbsup

JFK 09-11-2012 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 19183897)
I miss the AgeCheck vs AdultCheck war.

I made tons of cash of CyberAge back in the day.

those were the days:thumbsup I was mainly concentrating on Adultcheck, but had sites with Agecheck/cyberage as well:winkwink:

rogueteens 09-12-2012 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spankitmedia (Post 19183916)
I never had any problems with AVS. I really liked their scraper. However, I think MechBunny is much more powerful

wrong AVS :)

Evil Chris 09-12-2012 06:19 AM

Anyone wanting to learn more about AVS and how it's still a great model, just contact me.

Funny thing is that it might be an older model, but more and more webmasters are finding it's "new again". Sexkey is a great way to protect your content, and at the same time make money on free joins and upsell your favorite site(s) at the same time.

Contact me for a demo/examples/info.

Evil Chris 09-12-2012 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebCashMaker (Post 19183280)
Back in like 1999 we opened an AdultBouncer site, put some galleries on thehun and in a very short time had a lot of members.

They we opened up our own paysite because it did'nt make sense to split the money with AdultBouncer. We redirected all our traffic to our own paysites and AdultBouncer asked us to come back. We did'nt have to since we were already converting and retaining our own members.

I never understood why use and AVS when you can open your own paysite.












Mathieu

You did that in 1999? "Mathieu" ? :1orglaugh

mineistaken 09-12-2012 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebCashMaker (Post 19183280)
I never understood why use and AVS when you can open your own paysite.
Mathieu

What if you don't have enough content for paysite? Or do not want to dedicate your time for updates? Fr instance lets say you have 2 videos and 200 pictures of some chick. Paysite is not an option, but AVS is.

edgeprod 09-12-2012 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19184438)
What if you don't have enough content for paysite? Or do not want to dedicate your time for updates? Fr instance lets say you have 2 videos and 200 pictures of some chick. Paysite is not an option, but AVS is.

I'm surprised you even dignified that idiotically stupid post with an answer. You're a better man than I! :thumbsup

VenusBlogger 09-12-2012 12:00 PM

but sexkey doesn't pay you for REBILLING like a paysite.. or like adultbouncer or deluxepass did.

That was the MAGIC of keeping your members retention and having 1000 members rebilling each month.

Getting paid 20 bucks or whatever for a one time signup makes no sense for THE AFFILIATE (only for that EVIL GUY or TITAN or whatever the owner is), and you will never ever REACH that level you could reach with adultbouncer or others..

BTW, what happened to MOVIE TITAN? I know he was linked to sexkey few years ago, same as some ASIAN-CANADIAN girl managing that empire of TGPs like loli**movies.com and titan network...

bgersh104 09-12-2012 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebCashMaker (Post 19183280)
Back in like 1999 we opened an AdultBouncer site, put some galleries on thehun and in a very short time had a lot of members.

They we opened up our own paysite because it did'nt make sense to split the money with AdultBouncer. We redirected all our traffic to our own paysites and AdultBouncer asked us to come back. We did'nt have to since we were already converting and retaining our own members.

I never understood why use and AVS when you can open your own paysite.












Mathieu

Quoted for truth - even more so today then back then..

VenusBlogger 09-12-2012 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19183906)
What the hell are you talking about?

Again.. It is pretty clear, lets paste it again:

because for non-us or non-europe webmasters, its like impossible to open a PAYSITE...

You need to have a registered office and ADDRESS in Europe or USA to have CCBILL or EPOCH approve you.. otherwise forget it.

Not sure if there is some trick to register a UK LIMITED COMPANY for 300 bucks and there is a way to have an addrees of UK to register in EPOCH.. any ideas?

Well, if there is some trick nobody here will tell me, that's for sure... but im sure there must be some way.

beks001 09-12-2012 12:15 PM

What is AVS? Can you break this down for the idiots like me that may not know what this is and how it's ran?

edgeprod 09-12-2012 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 19185114)
but sexkey doesn't pay you for REBILLING like a paysite.. or like adultbouncer or deluxepass did.

I'm assuming you're just trolling, and not really this stupid, but since SexKey is FREE for users, it'd be a bit tough for them to pay you for REBILLS, no? If you can't give away a FREE pass, you don't belong in this business.

tammix 09-12-2012 01:03 PM

Certifier AVS webmasters, step inside! LOL

VenusBlogger 09-12-2012 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19185156)
I'm assuming you're just trolling, and not really this stupid, but since SexKey is FREE for users, it'd be a bit tough for them to pay you for REBILLS, no? If you can't give away a FREE pass, you don't belong in this business.

Why the attack man? Why so aggressive?

I'm being serious, as someone who has worked 10 years with all the AVS's in the business I know what I'm talking about...

REBILLING in AVS's is the way to go to build a long term and solid income.

ASK anyone here who has been involved in rebilling AVS systems... ASK the 8-baller guy that had his AVS in DELUXEPASS, Ask apornarchive guy that had 10,000 members rebilling each month in every single AVS system... Do the math and you will see.

SEXKEY doesn't offer that. For me it doesn't matter if it's 25 per free signup, I would make 5 times more money, if they offered Rebilling, let's say 29.95 and 14,95 rebills for me...

edgeprod 09-12-2012 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 19185281)
Why the attack man? Why so aggressive?

I'm not attacking you. I'm complimenting you, in a way -- that you couldn't possibly be as stupid as your comments would lead people to believe. It's like Paul Markham .. he's probably not an idiot, he just posts like one. You always think I'm being aggressive toward you. No one else has accused me of that; it's odd.


Quote:

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 19185281)
I'm being serious, as someone who has worked 10 years with all the AVS's in the business I know what I'm talking about...

REBILLING in AVS's is the way to go to build a long term and solid income.

ASK anyone here who has been involved in rebilling AVS systems... ASK the 8-baller guy that had his AVS in DELUXEPASS, Ask apornarchive guy that had 10,000 members rebilling each month in every single AVS system... Do the math and you will see.

SEXKEY doesn't offer that. For me it doesn't matter if it's 25 per free signup, I would make 5 times more money, if they offered Rebilling, let's say 29.95 and 14,95 rebills for me...

I've listened to your argument. Please allow me to retort:

http://www.edgeprod.com/dom/skchex.jpg

The increased conversions of SexKey being free more than make up for the rebills, in my personal experience. I've been an AVS webmaster since 1996, and I'm "doubling down" .. no, "tripling down" with SexKey right now. Evil Chris convinced me to reconnect with the SK guys in a big way, and I'm in the nascent stages of scaling out a very ambitious project.

VenusBlogger 09-12-2012 02:17 PM

Well man, that's your opinion... I'm convinced I can make more with rebills, In fact I made way more than what you list on your checks, with rebills...

And I trust in a long term relationship with the surfer, who joins to your system and wants to stay there, thus you need to give them more content, movies and pictures and UPDATE your archive regularly with more content...

edgeprod 09-12-2012 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 19185514)
Well man, that's your opinion... I'm convinced I can make more with rebills, In fact I made way more than what you list on your checks, with rebills...

And I trust in a long term relationship with the surfer, who joins to your system and wants to stay there, thus you need to give them more content, movies and pictures and UPDATE your archive regularly with more content...

Post some checks up so we can drool over 'em. SexKey pays every 2 weeks, so if you're making more than $25k in a two-week period, you might just convince me to do it YOUR way.

Looking forward to you showing us the light. :thumbsup

kristin 09-12-2012 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19185632)
Post some checks up so we can drool over 'em. SexKey pays every 2 weeks, so if you're making more than $25k in a two-week period, you might just convince me to do it YOUR way.

Looking forward to you showing us the light. :thumbsup

Post a more recent check.

edgeprod 09-12-2012 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 19185671)
Post a more recent check.

Who writes checks anymore? Read my previous posts for my plan to renew my relationship with SexKey. Now that I'm out of my 6-year-long "exclusive" contract, I can promote whoever I want again, and SexKey is going to be my first stop! I feel like a huge weight has been lifted! :)

brassmonkey 09-12-2012 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 19185671)
Post a more recent check.

thats 4 real

Zoxxa 09-12-2012 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 19185123)
Again.. It is pretty clear, lets paste it again:

because for non-us or non-europe webmasters, its like impossible to open a PAYSITE...

You need to have a registered office and ADDRESS in Europe or USA to have CCBILL or EPOCH approve you.. otherwise forget it.

Not sure if there is some trick to register a UK LIMITED COMPANY for 300 bucks and there is a way to have an addrees of UK to register in EPOCH.. any ideas?

Well, if there is some trick nobody here will tell me, that's for sure... but im sure there must be some way.


Dude, just google "nominee director", it's not a trick, it's called business 101.

VenusBlogger 09-12-2012 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19185632)
Post some checks up so we can drool over 'em. SexKey pays every 2 weeks, so if you're making more than $25k in a two-week period, you might just convince me to do it YOUR way.

Looking forward to you showing us the light. :thumbsup

When you make some good money, you don't get paid via check...

BTW, nobody answered my question, is TITAN still related to SEXKEY? And what about the Asian-Canadian girl?

fuzebox 09-12-2012 04:16 PM

I am convinced Venus Blogger is a fake nick. There's just no way.


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