GFY Censorship - Affiliates: Do you trust MPA2/MPA3 programs? - THREAD GONE
 

what happened to the thread about MPA

"Affiliates: Do you trust MPA2/MPA3 programs?"
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1077731

Why is GFY being censored ?

Companies can pay to have thread that are bad for their business removed?

Why would they do that?

im sending eric 20 to have this shit removed right now

LOL What a fucking joke.

IMHO it was a bullshit thread to begin with. It was over something that happened years ago and was corrected. Looked more like a troll thread than anything, just trying to stir up unnecessary drama or an unwarranted attack.

Emailing Eric to have him send the hitmen out

No offense DWB, but that should not be an option.

If a company can have old bullshit removed from GFY just because it happened years ago, that should apply to everyone equally. People bumping old bullshit when they get butthurt happens all of the fucking time on here. They should have to take their medicine like anyone else.

Whether I think it was a deliberate troll or not, really shouldn't matter. If those sorts of things are going to be outlawed or prohibited, it should become a standard rule to lock ALL of those threads, ban those bumping them, or whatever. In short, it should be 'fair' for everyone. Not selective.

You should not be able to buy a BRO drink, & have it just vanish because you do not like it.

:2 cents:

yup
agreed
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They handled the thread very well until they had it deleted. Now they look like they have something to hide.

nats fixed that exploit & fucked something else up & charged me 240 bucks to fix it. I'm still scratching my head over that one
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I didn't read the thread, but perhaps the OP just asked for the thread to be deleted? :2 cents:

I started the thread and I did not ask for it to be deleted. I can't say that I am surprised. I think it had around a thousand views the last time I saw it so I know many people read it. Draw your own conclusions.

IMO, my last reply was probably the one which broke the camels back. I showed a post from 2003 where "garry" from mansion productions was commenting about charging $50 for a shave module and that being a good idea (he posted a wink emote probably to indicate it was a joke but still). Then I followed that up with a screenshot from 2004 showing the shave options in the mpa2 admin area with a message from Fabian (who worked for tmm at the time) confirming that the page in question was the first page sponsors see when entering a mpa2 program. I took screencaps of all those old messages by the way in case they disappeared. I didn't take one of the topic which got deleted itself but you can find the topic and the first few replies in the Google cache.

I think another aspect of this is that it makes some sponsors look very bad and I spoke about this in a reply. It was the first page in the mpa2 admin lounge yet how many people did the right thing and warned affiliates about it? Perhaps this has something to do with the thread vanishing? So many people with so much to hide though so it's hard to say what finally did it. Like I said, draw your own conclusions. :upsidedow

And it wasn't a troll post. I was wanting input from other affiliates. I only discovered allt he new stuff because I started researching it after a mpa3 program suddenly collapsed on me in conversions and rebills. I knew vaguely of the incident in the past but I saw some new things this time around after researching.

Garry popped in and basically accused me of being a troll or part of a conspiracy. I stated some opinions (such as never seeing a real apology over the incident and all their comments about the incident being PR doublespeak) and asked them to post where they had made a single honest apology in the past or where they honestly explained the incident. They then posted some old AVN article where they didn't really apologize and made a claim that basically the shaving features were to "help fight affiliate fraud". I then replied asking them to explain how the "shave all webmasters" and "shave individual webmasters" features were to help prevent "affiliate fraud" but I don't recall them ever replying again to the topic.

My original intent wasn't to start shit with mansion. In fact if they would have posted an honest apology and explanation at any time or linked to one in the past I probably would have left the whole thing alone. The thing is I think the owner of Mansion Productions is too proud to sincerely apologize and too "slick" to think he should have to honestly explain things without the PR speak or double talk. To be honest this bugs me much more than the original incident itself. Anyway I think I learned enough of what I needed to know AND THEN SOME. :upsidedow

GFY isn't really a democracy, it's a privately owned forum. If something isn't in the interests of the owner or the owner's friends, it may get removed. Simple as that - just gotta learn to live with it.

:2 cents: That's just the bottom line.

You guys don't want shit deleted, host it yourself.

what is your horse in this Konda?

yup pretty much it in a nutshell.
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Nothing. Got nothing against mpa, just noticed it was deleted because I was active in the thread and couldn't find it anymore.

okie...just wondering.

Konrad for da win!

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Advertiser perks.


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GFY isn't a democracy ...

That's good that it's gone. Now u have a topic to talk about. Something empty that GFY is use to.

Yep Konrad is correct :2 cents::2 cents:

I think most of us know already that AVN and GFY is corrupt. There have been dozens of incidents like this. The one before this I remember was the old posts with whois data for filesonic being deleted because they showed a connection to mansef.

The way I see it at least 500 people already seen it. That it was deleted in my opinion only tells me I was right to post it in the first place.

If I really wanted I could just post it on every other forum as well as 500 other places and there is nothing Mansion, AVN could do. I don't care that much about it though.

Couldn't have said it better myself.


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Gotta love BRO drinks :thumbsup

gfy has become a joke

LOL I mentioned MPA programs I tried convert for shit and was accused of making unsubstantiated accusations. Apparently talking about my own experiences is making accusations.

Keep in mind this was in a thread where Oy said people should promote the programs on his platform.

What gave it away?

Was it their involvement in a file sharing site, or when they let the industries largest pirate give the keynote speech at the show and hold a seminar on how to profit from stolen content?

I'm curious how you think affiliate tracking software hurts sales. Both NATS and MPA send a user to the biller the program owner sets up, tracking the user along the way. Neither approve or deny a user on their own. Maybe I'm missing something, but I would put the blame on the site owner and billing companies they use.

I was always slightly suspicious of MPA programs. Now that they had that thread deleted, I will avoid MPA programs at all cost. You do not have a thread deleted unless you have something very shady to hide.

So how long do you think this thread will last?

Use your imagination and think about the thread that was deleted.

This is why the thread got deleted, sideways logic like this. Mansion made a decsion 10 years ago (a bad one, apologized (a weak one) and reversed course (a good decision)).

Since then solid programs have signed up to use what I think is one of the top 5?, 3? 2? affiliate software platforms in the industry YEARS after that drama. These programs more then likely never knew about it, certainly had nothing to do with it and have had no drama themselves that they deserve your comments.

And then Freaky_Akula drops a nugget like that.

What's your logic dude?

I personally liked the thread and think it should be back up. GFY is owned by AVN, supposedly the industry media. Private or not censoring what is really an amazing online forum of truth, lies and opinions of all kind is a shame.

AVN should get with the program there. And Freaky, use your brain.

The whole "that was a long time ago and it was removed" thing doesn't sit well with me. I think it is an indicator of someone's ethics. Sure it was removed from the default script but the fact it was ever included in the first place is an indicator of ethics, IMHO. What if someone quietly comes along and asks for such a feature? Would they say "no way, that is wrong and we will never allow such a thing!" If so, why wasn't it like that the first time around? The feature was removed only after it was brought to light, no?

Deleted threads ALWAYS lead to "sideways logic." Always.

It only brings more attention to an issue that would have been let go soon enough. Now there is more fuel on the fire. This thread will go on for another two pages, mainly of people talking about suspicious activities and why they don't trust so and so.

thats why I never understand the deleting of threads anyways.

I can understand a thread being closed or even deleted if it's about someone's reputation being soiled wrongly (meaning, someone accused them of something illegal but the accusation was false, etc).

Could this fall under that category? Just asking.

Exactly. Now people are and will be speculating about what's going on when the original thread could have been used to promote their product. The best thing they can do is bring the deleted thread back and calmly reply to questions and comments there.