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Cherry7 04-20-2012 02:34 AM

Shots from Cinema Erotique's new movie
 
http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/TheBox/TheBox1.jpg
http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/TheBox/TheBox2.jpg
http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/TheBox/TheBox3.jpg
http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/TheBox/TheBox4.jpg
http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/TheBox/TheBox5.jpg
http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/TheBox/TheBox6.jpg
http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/TheBox/TheBox7.jpg
http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/TheBox/TheBox8.jpg
http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/TheBox/TheBox9.jpg
http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/TheBox/TheBox10.jpg
http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/TheBox/TheBox11.jpg
http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/TheBox/TheBox12.jpg
http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/TheBox/TheBox13.jpg
http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/TheBox/TheBox14.jpg
http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/TheBox/TheBox15.jpg
http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/TheBox/TheBox16.jpg
http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/TheBox/TheBox17.jpg
http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/TheBox/TheBox18.jpg
http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/TheBox/TheBox19.jpg
http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/TheBox/TheBox20.jpg

trailer

Sophie Delancey 04-20-2012 05:08 AM

Looking very interesting. Good job!

DVTimes 04-20-2012 05:11 AM

is that shot in the uk?

Paul Markham 04-20-2012 05:34 AM

How come Cherry puts up complete garbage one minute and then something like this the next?

The guy that shot the girls dancing in his living room can't be the same person who shot this.

Just my observation as a shooter.

Grapesoda 04-20-2012 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18898343)
How come Cherry puts up complete garbage one minute and then something like this the next?

The guy that shot the girls dancing in his living room can't be the same person who shot this.

Just my observation as a shooter.

new gear, learing said gear, more expereince, better crew :2 cents:

MaxCandy 04-20-2012 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18898343)
How come Cherry puts up complete garbage one minute and then something like this the next?

The guy that shot the girls dancing in his living room can't be the same person who shot this.

Just my observation as a shooter.

Did Cherry Direct this?

pesst 04-20-2012 05:52 AM

Pretty professional trailer, grats :)

Cherry7 04-20-2012 12:08 PM

http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/NEX0021.jpg
http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/NEX0025.jpg

We had added this camera as a B camera, this allows us to us a complete range of lenses, while still using the EX1 for dialogue scenes.

Same crew as always, sorry Paul you just can't get anything right.

DamianJ 04-20-2012 02:02 PM

#paulfail

MaxCandy 04-21-2012 03:15 AM

Nice work, are you a director producer or cameraman? Or All?

PS are you a women or a man?

porno jew 04-21-2012 03:18 AM

reminds me of canadian late night cable tv from the 80s. are you canadian?

AmeliaG 04-21-2012 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxCandy (Post 18900202)
Nice work, are you a director producer or cameraman? Or All?

PS are you a women or a man?



He is a man. Ironically, his name, if memory serves, is Maxim Ford.

He thinks part of what makes him so original and better than anyone else who ever walked the earth is his innovation of pretending to be a woman making porn. That and incompetent spamming.

He is not fit to carry your backup camera bag.

Paul Markham 04-21-2012 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18898350)
new gear, learing said gear, more expereince, better crew :2 cents:

I really can't make him out. He's all over the place.

http://www.cinemaerotique.com/mov_happycouple.html moves from one thing to another in a trailer leaving the viewer wondering what he's trying to do, amateur to erotic, to amateur. If one clip is fantasy then tie it together.

http://www.cinemaerotique.com/long_goodbye.html then this which makes total sense. He lets a hand get out of shot because of his positioning, but I can forgive him for that. He should stand at an angle to the couple. Also straight cuts, dissolve so the viewer knows it's memories.

http://www.cinemaerotique.com/mov_internetbride.html

Great idea, but shot amateurishly. Why does it stop suddenly?

http://www.cinemaerotique.com/mov_signal.html

?????????????????????

IMO Cherry is an amateur who has good ideas but not the budget, training or experience to carry them off. Often his trailers are confusing without getting the message he wants to convey over to the viewer. He doesn't have the experience that a professional would have to have to sell his work. This last one shows he is learning.

I never ever attempted to move into this market. I knew where the money was for me and learned the hard way over the years how to get a good performance out of a girl. For the work I was doing. I did progress from a very basic level to a pretty successful magazine shooter and the Astral Blue videos sold well.

Just never had any illusions I could produce what Max does now. :thumbsup

And for Cherry to do what he wants to, this is the level he needs to be at. As there are already others at that level. Max isn't alone.

Paul Markham 04-21-2012 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 18900225)
He is a man. Ironically, his name, if memory serves, is Maxim Ford.

He thinks part of what makes him so original and better than anyone else who ever walked the earth is his innovation of pretending to be a woman making porn. That and incompetent spamming.

He is not fit to carry your backup camera bag.

You talk like you know him.

All I can say is as a professional who has sold sets for 20 years. His work isn't good. http://www.blurb.com/books/1334167

He makes beginners mistakes like cropping off a girls toes, not getting a girl to shave off stubble, no consistency or style to his work which is common as people learn, and an obvious look from a girl of not being directed and showing shots that show they are few up.

I do know from talking to girls who have worked for him is he bores them with his talk about what he's doing and how good he is. Models who have worked for the top guys can spot a fraud. They were fresh when I shot them :1orglaugh

Cherry7 04-21-2012 04:28 AM

As you have said yourself Paul you are not a photographer and have no training in photography never mind cinematography.

Your talk of what models have told you is a lie. You have just made this up.

Why do you need to lie to make your point?

Also "Industry Professional" Amelia who is so professional that she puts peoples names out into the public sphere where it can do great damage. This is not a forum people join with their real names for good reason for some of us. Do you out your models real names too?

If it is harder for a woman to succeed than a man, why would I pretend to be a woman? Or are you saying its easier?

I let our work stand up for itself, all film making is the work of a few people but I shoot and direct, people help with sound, make up sets etc

DamianJ 04-21-2012 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18900233)
I do know from talking to girls who have worked for him is he bores them with his talk about what he's doing and how good he is. Models who have worked for the top guys can spot a fraud. They were fresh when I shot them :1orglaugh



Watch and learn from the master Cherry!

Screwed Up 04-21-2012 11:05 AM

I don't know what to think about this, but I like it.

Can you elaborate more on this setup?

Cherry7 04-21-2012 11:11 AM

Sony have put the CMOS chip they use in the P3 and FS100 cameras in this small NEX 5N shooting full HD at 25 and 50 fps (for us Europeans and 24p for the US) encoding at 23 Mbps on to normal cards.

Get a Nikon to NEX adapter to use all Nikon lens, or other adapter to use other lenses.

Records sound but only good for guide track, but works as a B camera for the more expressionistic shots. and at 350 pound 400 euros 500 dollars .....

AmeliaG 04-21-2012 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18900233)
You talk like you know him.

All I can say is as a professional who has sold sets for 20 years. His work isn't good. http://www.blurb.com/books/1334167

He makes beginners mistakes like cropping off a girls toes, not getting a girl to shave off stubble, no consistency or style to his work which is common as people learn, and an obvious look from a girl of not being directed and showing shots that show they are few up.

I do know from talking to girls who have worked for him is he bores them with his talk about what he's doing and how good he is. Models who have worked for the top guys can spot a fraud. They were fresh when I shot them :1orglaugh


Nope, don't know the talented Max Candy or the arrogant little phony woman creep in real life. Never met anyone with the misfortune to work with the latter. He just spammed the hell out of a ton of my sites a while back and refused to stop until I took it to his host. I would have just clicked spam on his emails, only he kept sending bulk emails to different sites from different email accounts and saying how everyone producing adult content of any kind is clearly worthless so we should send all our traffic to his unsuccessful leaky affiliate program. All while pretending he is a woman and acting like he should get freebies out of sisterhood or pity charity for chicks or something. I really dislike the help-the-pathetic-girl routine, especially when a man is doing it.

If he hadn't contacted so many of my sites so many times with the same rude pitch, I probably wouldn't have noticed him. But someone should have taught him that he might not want to be such a rotten human being because there is such a thing as attention you don't want.

When I surf logged in, I don't see anything "Cherry" types, but GFY doesn't always hold the cookie.

Cherry7 04-21-2012 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 18900874)
Nope, don't know the talented Max Candy or the arrogant little phony woman creep in real life. Never met anyone with the misfortune to work with the latter. He just spammed the hell out of a ton of my sites a while back and refused to stop until I took it to his host. I would have just clicked spam on his emails, only he kept sending bulk emails to different sites from different email accounts and saying how everyone producing adult content of any kind is clearly worthless so we should send all our traffic to his unsuccessful leaky affiliate program. All while pretending he is a woman and acting like he should get freebies out of sisterhood or pity charity for chicks or something. I really dislike the help-the-pathetic-girl routine, especially when a man is doing it.

If he hadn't contacted so many of my sites so many times with the same rude pitch, I probably wouldn't have noticed him. But someone should have taught him that he might not want to be such a rotten human being because there is such a thing as attention you don't want.

When I surf logged in, I don't see anything "Cherry" types, but GFY doesn't always hold the cookie.

Yes I wrote e-mails back to a lot of sites when I was just starting this business, 5 years ago now. I did not know they were all yours. I would have been simple to write back explaining that you were not interested.

Show me an e-mail where I was rude or disrespectful.

It is your behavior that is rude ignorant and dangerous. People need to keep the identities secret for good reasons, and that means taking steps to confuse people trying to trace them.

Let people be warned that in any petty depute you are prepared to risk the lives and career of your models and business associate by outing them to make a point.

Who would want to do business with such a person?

porno jew 04-21-2012 02:51 PM

total dick move to be outing people on here. not even i do that to people i dislike on here.

Paul Markham 04-21-2012 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18900251)
As you have said yourself Paul you are not a photographer and have no training in photography never mind cinematography.

And can you tell us where you got your training? I don't babble on about shooting something I can't. You never stop and keep putting up samples that prove you can't.

Quote:

Your talk of what models have told you is a lie. You have just made this up.

Why do you need to lie to make your point?
And the model told you that. :upsidedow
Quote:

I let our work stand up for itself, all film making is the work of a few people but I shoot and direct, people help with sound, make up sets etc
And from that work I draw my conclusions. That you have never been trained, never worked with a great photographer or pornographer, except to carry his bag and don't have the budget to back your ideas.

That's a kick ass lens you have. But why hook it onto such a cheap camera. What's the buffering and chip capacity like?

If you want I can put up some pics of your work and point out the obvious amateur mistakes.

papill0n 04-22-2012 12:21 AM

cherry7 seems sane and infinitely more professional than the pathetic know it all shit speaking paul

papill0n 04-22-2012 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18900233)
You talk like you know him.

All I can say is as a professional who has sold sets for 20 years. His work isn't good. http://www.blurb.com/books/1334167

He makes beginners mistakes like cropping off a girls toes, not getting a girl to shave off stubble, no consistency or style to his work which is common as people learn, and an obvious look from a girl of not being directed and showing shots that show they are few up.

I do know from talking to girls who have worked for him is he bores them with his talk about what he's doing and how good he is. Models who have worked for the top guys can spot a fraud. They were fresh when I shot them :1orglaugh

hey smart arse why dont you show us one person that speaks highly of you ?

bring them to this thread immediately

one fucking person paul

can you do bitch ? ? ?

while you are at it get someone who has bought your content in the last 12 fucking months to post here

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

thats if youre not too busy telling us how fucking fantastic you are for the nth time today :ak47:

DamianJ 04-22-2012 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18901387)
That's a kick ass lens you have.

Is it, what make is it? Looks cheap to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18901387)
But why hook it onto such a cheap camera. What's the buffering and chip capacity like?

Can you explain what "buffering" and "chip capacity" are?

Cherry7 04-22-2012 08:19 AM

http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/NEX0022.jpg

Cheap! I'll have you know this is one of the best the Belorussian photo industry makes. The job I had hunting this little beauty.

f8mm F4 fish eye with 180 degree field of view. The other lens is a Nikon 800 mm F8 , quite a dark lens but with the new sensitivity of these new large sensors having a new lease of life.

I can't help you with the buffering or chip capacity, is it similar to the flux capacitor ?

Paul Markham 04-22-2012 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18901840)
Cheap! I'll have you know this is one of the best the Belorussian photo industry makes. The job I had hunting this little beauty.

f8mm F4 fish eye with 180 degree field of view. The other lens is a Nikon 800 mm F8 , quite a dark lens but with the new sensitivity of these new large sensors having a new lease of life.

I can't help you with the buffering or chip capacity, is it similar to the flux capacitor ?

I said the lens was good, are you now talking about a fish eye adapter to it? Belorussian photo industry

I was talking about the camera the lens was fitted to. That doesn't look very professional, maybe you could tell us more about it, like model number. Buffering occurs when a cheaper camera has to stop filming to transfer the information to the chip, chip size I'm sure you know about.

Where were you trained as a photographer and cinematographer and what diplomas did you achieve. What school taught you to shoot this work?

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/ce1.jpg

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/ce2.jpg

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/ce3.jpg

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/ce4.jpg

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/ce5.jpg

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/ce6.jpg

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/cherry-01.jpg

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/cherry-02.jpg

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/cherry-03.jpg

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/cherry-04.jpg

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/cherry-05.jpg

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/cherry-06.jpg

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/cherry-07.jpg

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/cherry-08.jpg

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/cherry-09.jpg

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/cherry-10.jpg

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/cherry-11.jpg

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/cherry-12.jpg

I'm sure you don't mind me showing these.

DamianJ 04-22-2012 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18901867)
Buffering occurs when a cheaper camera has to stop filming to transfer the information to the chip

What kind of chip is there that stores data Paul?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18901867)
, chip size I'm sure you know about.

You said chip capacity - can you explain what that is?

DeanCapture 04-22-2012 09:24 AM

Damn, that's a cute lil' camera. How is the noise on this thing for video?

It shoots 1080 @ 60 frames too right?

John-ACWM 04-22-2012 10:28 AM

Looks kinky :thumbsup

Cherry7 04-22-2012 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanCapture (Post 18901915)
Damn, that's a cute lil' camera. How is the noise on this thing for video?

It shoots 1080 @ 60 frames too right?

For the US it shoots 60p and 24p full 1920 x 1080 in AVCHD at 28 Mbps, The noise looks very low indeed and the ASA goes up 8 stops, and it look very clean at 800ASA. Also I expected it to be disabled in some way, you know the $15000 cameras chip in a $500 camera, but no the shutter time can be varied to from 1/4sec to a 1/4000, so for static shots no need for NDs.

The low profile of the camera is also fun, it can almost go anywhere....

TrashyContent 04-22-2012 12:31 PM

Bin Laden & OJ...
 
Here's a trick that Bin Laden and OJ missed... if you are in trouble, simply bring Paul Markham into the equasion and people will totally forget about you :1orglaugh

videoscribe 04-22-2012 04:00 PM

The pictures and trailer is erotic. The ropes and whips are original. Take a look at long boring train rides and anticipation of something more. She masturbates herself.

epitome 04-22-2012 04:29 PM

One "photographer" here doesn't like it because there isn't a creepy old man making the model visibly uncomfortable by touching her and saying inappropriate things.

Paul Markham 04-23-2012 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrashyContent (Post 18902169)
Here's a trick that Bin Laden and OJ missed... if you are in trouble, simply bring Paul Markham into the equasion and people will totally forget about you :1orglaugh

I'm just pointing out the huge difference in his work. The images are amateur, the video I took the screen grabs from was clearly awful. Then he produces something like the train ride and soldier on the boat scene.

Is it in reality 2 people one clueless the other with a clue?

Still would like to know more about the camera. Does it have a separate memory card, like a flash card, does it write info directly to the card or does it write it to the camera and then there's a waiting period where it transfers it to the card?

Sorry if I don't have the right names for these things. I'm sure people know what I mean. I just point and click. :1orglaugh

DamianJ 04-23-2012 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18902903)
Still would like to know more about the camera. Does it have a separate memory card, like a flash card, does it write info directly to the card or does it write it to the camera and then there's a waiting period where it transfers it to the card?

Sorry if I don't have the right names for these things. I'm sure people know what I mean. I just point and click. :1orglaugh

How can you not understand how digital cameras work?

What do you think it would "write" to if not a memory card?

CamTraffic 04-23-2012 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 18900225)
He is a man. Ironically, his name, if memory serves, is Maxim Ford.

He thinks part of what makes him so original and better than anyone else who ever walked the earth is his innovation of pretending to be a woman making porn. That and incompetent spamming.

He is not fit to carry your backup camera bag.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

globofun 04-23-2012 01:39 PM

I love trains and bondage!

I hate Paul Markham's ''I know it all'' rants......can this clown be banned for life, once and for all?

Paul Markham 04-23-2012 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by globofun (Post 18904068)
I love trains and bondage!

I hate Paul Markham's ''I know it all'' rants......can this clown be banned for life, once and for all?

I don't know it all. I do know my limits as a shooter and stay within them.

Cherry7 04-24-2012 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18903024)
How can you not understand how digital cameras work?

What do you think it would "write" to if not a memory card?

Some cameras write to RAM memory first, so that they can photograph a few frames very fast, after the RAM fills up the speed drops as the pictures have to be written to the memory card.

With video the size of the pictures being smaller and the data less the camera can write directly to a fast memory card at 28 Mbps.


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