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Just Alex 04-10-2012 07:08 PM

Michigan teacher claims she was fired for organizing Trayvon Martin fundraiser
 
Props to superintendent .

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"I was told I was a bad teacher, that I was being unprofessional, that I'm being paid to teach, not to be an activist. When I tried to defend myself, it was construed as insubordination," Harris told the Detroit Free Press.
and here comes another lawsuit :disgust

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Cassell said she is a "child of the civil rights movement" and has supported the work of the Southern Poverty Law Center
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/detroit/...144713504.html

candyflip 04-10-2012 07:09 PM

I don't understand why people are taking up the cause of fundraising for someone who was killed.

What are they supporting with their donations?

globofun 04-10-2012 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18878104)
I don't understand why people are taking up the cause of fundraising for someone who was killed.

What are they supporting with their donations?

The Black Panthers?

brassmonkey 04-10-2012 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18878101)
Props to superintendent .



and here comes another lawsuit :disgust



http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/detroit/...144713504.html

you ever protest? i've been a few in my life time. you going to sign the petition to get her job back?

Just Alex 04-10-2012 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18878231)
you ever protest? i've been a few in my life time. you going to sign the petition to get her job back?

On my own time.
I would want my child to be part of someone protest if that person is ignorant to not know that Im not paying her to protest but teach my child. You can have prayer but this is OK? Oh wait, I almost forgot who Im talking to. Never mind.

DBS.US 04-10-2012 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18878104)
I don't understand why people are taking up the cause of fundraising for someone who was killed.

What are they supporting with their donations?

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/9606/picture11nu.png
Flowers:winkwink:

brassmonkey 04-10-2012 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18878233)
On my own time.
I would want my child to be part of someone protest if that person is ignorant to not know that Im not paying her to protest but teach my child. You can have prayer but this is OK? Oh wait, I almost forgot who Im talking to. Never mind.

the government has too much power. now the school charges a fee to wear street clothes. those assholes have lost their minds :1orglaugh its to late for prayer. :2 cents:

Rochard 04-10-2012 10:11 PM

I understand that social issues effect students and schools, but a teacher taking a position on this issue is sending the wrong message. The teacher is showing the kids that people are no longer innocent until proven guilty, which is the direct opposite of their job. I think this poor kid was murdered, but that doesn't mean we can assume the shooter was guilty. That's what a court of law is for.

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18878104)
I don't understand why people are taking up the cause of fundraising for someone who was killed.

What are they supporting with their donations?

That's a damn good question. What are the donations going to? The mother, who will now get a $1300 social security death benefit for the rest of her life? The father, who will get the same?

edgeprod 04-10-2012 10:56 PM

Good call here. We don't need more indoctrination in schools. As role models, teachers should teach, not get involved in causes or indoctrination in any form -- religious, political, etc.

brassmonkey 04-11-2012 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18878479)
Good call here. We don't need more indoctrination in schools. As role models, teachers should teach, not get involved in causes or indoctrination in any form -- religious, political, etc.

that's your opinion. anyway she'll get paid and laugh all the way to the bank. hopefully

Sunny Day 04-11-2012 02:10 AM

SS Death Benefit
 
That's a damn good question. What are the donations going to? The mother, who will now get a $1300 social security death benefit for the rest of her life? The father, who will get the same?[/QUOTE]
Social Security Death Benefit is a ONE TIME payment. Not for ever and is about $250-350 depending on the persons age and money they paid into Social Security. Had he been a father, his children would get Social Security until 18, but no mother or father gets a lifetime payment for a dead son.

DWB 04-11-2012 03:30 AM

The school is correct. She is there to teach, not be an activist of any kind.

u-Bob 04-11-2012 03:57 AM

Who's this Trayvon guy?

mopek1 04-11-2012 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18878717)
The school is correct. She is there to teach, not be an activist of any kind.

Schools fund raise all the time for charities, cancer, environmental issues. I would consider that 'activism' behavior.

Fletch XXX 04-11-2012 04:49 AM

""I was told I was a bad teacher, that I was being unprofessional, that I'm being paid to teach, not to be an activist. When I tried to defend myself, it was construed as insubordination," Harris told the Detroit Free Press. "

teachers need to stay focused and not use their position for political activism.

Just Alex 04-11-2012 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 18878761)
Schools fund raise all the time for charities, cancer, environmental issues. I would consider that 'activism' behavior.

Kinda different from fundraising money for questionable person (unless you're black ofcourse).

Just Alex 04-11-2012 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18878485)
that's your opinion. anyway she'll get paid and laugh all the way to the bank. hopefully

Probably not. Sounds like it wasn't her first time getting warned about doing the job she's paid to do. But she will certainly try.
Good riddance.

Freaky_Akula 04-11-2012 06:17 AM

She should never again be allowed to teach.

Scott McD 04-11-2012 06:25 AM

Fuck her! She should have stuck to doing the job she was paid to do.

I bet I already know what she looks like...

L-Pink 04-11-2012 06:28 AM

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/4...0704218010.jpg

raymor 04-11-2012 06:44 AM

It sounds like the superintendent is saying she was not fired for organizing a fundraiser, but for spending class time engaging in activism rather than teaching. If she had been sleeping through classes she could have been fired.

As an English and journalism teacher, she had the kids writing about the murder of Trayvon Martin, who called himself "No Limit Nigga" and apparently that was okay - English class is for writing. Apparently it was when her classes stopped having anything to do with the subject she was supposed to be teaching that there was an issue.

Just Alex 04-11-2012 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18878997)
Apparently it was when her classes stopped having anything to do with the subject she was supposed to be teaching that there was an issue.

You sure it wasn't because she was black and the entire world was against her?

raymor 04-11-2012 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 18878761)
Schools fund raise all the time for charities, cancer, environmental issues. I would consider that 'activism' behavior.

I agree, that happens a lot and it's activism. When I was young, we were taught about how by the year 2000 the world would be destroyed by global warming, that California would be underwater. It's 2012, California is still there, and China FAR outranks us in reading, math, and science. We owe them trillions because we've become stupid compared to most developed nations, spending our time indoctrinating kids instead of educating them. At the private school I visited, kids were four to six years ahead of public school - on par with kids in China and North Korea.

raymor 04-11-2012 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18879007)
You sure it wasn't because she was black and the entire world was against her?

Probably the president made a call to have her fired.

brassmonkey 04-11-2012 07:06 AM

she signed a contract it better be in there. you cant go outside of the contract and make up stuff.looks like she has a solid case. :) http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_lif...undraiser.html

Best-In-BC 04-11-2012 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18878970)

LOL, yeah, cause he got beat up

Just Alex 04-11-2012 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18879049)
she signed a contract it better be in there. you cant go outside of the contract and make up stuff.looks like she has a solid case. :) http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_lif...undraiser.html

Its amazing how 24/7 board monkeys read one stinking article and conclude that someone has "solid case".
Michigan is employee at will state. Educate yourself dumbo.

http://research.lawyers.com/Michigan...-Michigan.html

brassmonkey 04-11-2012 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18879076)
Its amazing how 24/7 board monkeys read one stinking article and conclude that someone has "solid case".
Michigan is employee at will state. Educate yourself dumbo.

http://research.lawyers.com/Michigan...-Michigan.html

that has nothing to do with the contract wtf are you saying. that's employment law :1orglaugh there better be a clause in the contract that say fundraising has to be cleared with the principal or the education superintendent. :2 cents: if not it will seem its more of a personal decision.

Just Alex 04-11-2012 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18879108)
that has nothing to do with the contract wtf are you saying. that's employment law :1orglaugh there better be a clause in the contract that say fundraising has to be cleared with the principal or the education superintendent. :2 cents: if not it will seem its more of a personal decision.

What kind of contract Tyrone? Her contract was to teach literature and journalism. Have you ever had a real job? :1orglaugh Contract my ass. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

brassmonkey 04-11-2012 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18879112)
What kind of contract Tyrone? Her contract was to teach literature and journalism. Have you ever had a real job? :1orglaugh Contract my ass. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

hector your a angry man look it up


Harris signed an employment contract

A Michigan teacher is petitioning for reinstatement after she was suspended, and then fired, for allegedly helping students try to organize a Trayvon Martin fundraiser. The school, however, denies that's why she was fired, the Detroit Free Press reports.

oh and the school is now saying that's not the reason :1orglaugh damage control :helpme

michael.kickass 04-11-2012 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 18878963)
Fuck her! She should have stuck to doing the job she was paid to do.

I bet I already know what she looks like...

I just can't agree more.

Just Alex 04-11-2012 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18879126)
hector your a angry man look it up


Harris signed an employment contract

A Michigan teacher is petitioning for reinstatement after she was suspended, and then fired, for allegedly helping students try to organize a Trayvon Martin fundraiser. The school, however, denies that's why she was fired, the Detroit Free Press reports.

oh and the school is now saying that's not the reason :1orglaugh damage control :helpme

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Thats what my question was my little welfare recipient. Have you ever seen employment letter and contract in non-union company with "employee at will" status? Don't bother answering, I know it already . :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Tom_PM 04-11-2012 07:55 AM

I never liked when teachers dragged us into discussions on Vietnam, and I dont like that this teacher dragged her students into a discussion about this case. She should have done that on her own time and used the schools community bulletin board to advertise it. IMHO.

brassmonkey 04-11-2012 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18879162)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Thats what my question was my little welfare recipient. Have you ever seen employment letter and contract in non-union company with "employee at will" status? Don't bother answering, I know it already . :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

clueless :2 cents: amigo. any hoo the court will decide it not me. have a nice day dude :) have work to do ttyl.

Rochard 04-11-2012 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sunny Day (Post 18878650)
That's a damn good question. What are the donations going to? The mother, who will now get a $1300 social security death benefit for the rest of her life? The father, who will get the same?

Social Security Death Benefit is a ONE TIME payment. Not for ever and is about $250-350 depending on the persons age and money they paid into Social Security. Had he been a father, his children would get Social Security until 18, but no mother or father gets a lifetime payment for a dead son.[/QUOTE]

I use the wrong term. There is a one time death benefit of $255. However, there is survivor benefit.

My father died in 1969 in Vietnam when I was nine months old. My mother collected SSN for both her husband having died, and also on my behalf because my father died. My mother collected until she re-married, and collected for me until I turned 18.

I just pulled out my last statement from SSN, and if my child dies I collect $1533 a month. My wife would get the same.

L-Pink 04-11-2012 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18879230)

I just pulled out my last statement from SSN, and if my child dies I collect $1533 a month. My wife would get the same.

Why does a person receive government money if a dependent dies? Makes no sense?

.

SuckOnThis 04-11-2012 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18879230)
Social Security Death Benefit is a ONE TIME payment. Not for ever and is about $250-350 depending on the persons age and money they paid into Social Security. Had he been a father, his children would get Social Security until 18, but no mother or father gets a lifetime payment for a dead son.

I use the wrong term. There is a one time death benefit of $255. However, there is survivor benefit.

My father died in 1969 in Vietnam when I was nine months old. My mother collected SSN for both her husband having died, and also on my behalf because my father died. My mother collected until she re-married, and collected for me until I turned 18.

I just pulled out my last statement from SSN, and if my child dies I collect $1533 a month. My wife would get the same.[/QUOTE]


You're wrong. If YOU die then your child will collect that amount, not if your child dies.

escorpio 04-11-2012 10:28 AM

Dis here be a lawsoot! Sista gurl gon' git paid!

escorpio 04-11-2012 10:31 AM

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candyflip 04-11-2012 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18879108)
that has nothing to do with the contract wtf are you saying. that's employment law :1orglaugh there better be a clause in the contract that say fundraising has to be cleared with the principal or the education superintendent. :2 cents: if not it will seem its more of a personal decision.

Fundraising of any sort is typically something THAT ALWAYS has to be cleared by the principal or superintendent.


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