BEWARE OF blackmonsters- Sounds a little scammy and unbusiness like.
 

Just wanted to make it a point before you hire this guy for any work. He gave my company some troubles you can find here:

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=18653805#post18653805

So he just said goodbye and blocked me. So FUCK YOU again for wasting my time Mike and fucking up a thread that took me a while to make.

As for the people who hire him for freelance work i would like to know how your transactions went with working with him past present and future.

Fuck you you winey little broke bitch.

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Weren't people tracking your ass down a little while ago?

Blackmonster is far from a scammer.

you broke ass work for next to nothing retard.

Pathetic.

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Everybody who hired me got their work.

Nobody ever got scammed by me you lying stinking shit.


You need to fucking pay up you cheap ass loser.

Blackmonsters has done two jobs for me which he did quickly and exceeded my expectations, so you are just full of shit marlboroack.

I highly recommend Blackmonsters!

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3 pieces of ID is pretty fucked up.

I can see asking for a driver's license if you were fucked over before, but you should have made that clear to him before any work began. Can't really ask for it later and then say we are not paying you without it.

edit: Plus I see to add insult to injury you ratted him out to paypal at the end of that other thread. Pretty dirty if you ask me.

Couldn't have said it better myself :thumbsup




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So, before we even get started you want the information necessary to go to the boards or to sue in court. Yep, that is the way to build a trusting relationship.

What ID do you offer up to your prospective employees? Before I talk to you about work can I see a couple of ids and maybe all your corporate paperwork so that I have the info I need to take you down if you fuck me over?

You are just too funny.


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I offered to work full time for $1200 a month.

That's less than $10 an hour for Flash, PHP, PERL,SQL
javascript......EVERYTHING!

This is just a cheap loser.

Any programmer who would work for her after claiming to rat people out to paypal is
insane.

Not to mention that they agreed to pay with it.

:1orglaugh

That's too cheap,you should ask for atleast 3000$ monthly.

We loose enough money monthly as it is. That is why we choose to gather 3 of them if they have em. Now i did tell him i accepted his drivers license:

[2:32:29 PM] econfirmpro: Well, that's a problem because I don't have 3 IDs
[2:32:44 PM] Phil Gateway: Do you have 2?
[2:32:49 PM] econfirmpro: No
[2:32:53 PM] Phil Gateway: Maybe a state ID, Military ID or Passporte?
[2:32:57 PM] Phil Gateway: Drivers license?
[2:33:03 PM] econfirmpro: I have a drivers license
[2:33:10 PM] econfirmpro: That's all I need.
[2:33:37 PM] Phil Gateway: When does it Expire?
[2:33:45 PM] econfirmpro: 2018
[2:33:53 PM] Phil Gateway: Ok

Now to make it clear he has not started working. I'm not going to hire and send 7,200$ for an initial payment till i am 100% certain he is not going to fuck us. Something was up so that is why i made this post as a counter attack.

FYI. I made the post in the thread above shortly after he denied my offer after spending countless hours putting together numbers to send him his requested 50%.

Yeah I saw that part in there. Fucking people.

Besides, I don't really think paypal gives a shit if you are getting payment for programming for an adult site or company. They give a shit if you are selling adult products.

Programming is not adult or mainstream, it is just programming.


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This is the domain in her sig : http://vosmaeridesign.in

I should have looked at that before replying to her post.

WTF? Looks like an space alien head exploded in the background.

:1orglaugh

They termed my account for selling ad space on an adult webmaster resource site years ago. (I was running banner ads advertising adult affiliate programs)

I think I might have read they loosened up on processing for adult related payments in the past couple years, but I would never take the chance again.

Yep, you are just bursting with professionalism there, aren't you?


lololololol.


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PayPal will block your ability to receive payments from Accounts if you sell goods or services. They killed my business account, blocked the email address then blocked the credit card from verifying my PayPal it in the future for other accounts.

Yeah, exactly!

But I gave a "low ball" offer because I'm not making much money and needed to
get that steady job.

What did you do, label your payments as "This is a payment for adult goods and/or services?"




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What an arsehole.

That statement will get the resumes and work rolling in. Clueless cunt.

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I know what you're saying man, but with your skills and integrity you should be getting much more:2 cents:

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Marlboroack,

On behalf of myself and some of the other programmers on this board:

Thank you for posting what you have posted.

It is seldom in this biz that we get that clear of a warning right up front.

Good luck in your search for employees :thumbsup




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I used the business account to store transaction information so i can get legal info at the end of the year by just opening my PayPal account.. So i have been labeling the Received and Sent description in detail so i knew what the products were when i went back to look at it.. I didn't know that they actually looked at it.

It took countless hours to multiple 1200 * 12 and then divide it by 2 ????

Here is a clue, there is a thing called a calculator.


Plus, what were you planning to do, pay him 50% of a years salary up front? That would be cool but I didn't see anywhere in the conversation where he asked for that. In fact, looked to me like he would have gotten started for $400 up front.


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I want to make it clear that blackmonsters is a good programmer that is why it was a nice investment to hire him for 14,400 a year cause that is what he requested.

But him posting shit for the other skilled designers i would like to hire to see because he was not happy with the way i keep my business organized makes you a shit head.

And for those who think i am cheap i offered to drive down to meet him + offered him a spot working in our office. I would have covered everything to get him setup to help grow our company.

So to the haters you are shit heads also.

Highlighted above in yellow is a big fat lie!

And you just continue to burst with professionalism :thumbsup

P.S. You might want to watch your sentences a bit. HIM posting shit does not make YOU a shit head. It is debatable (imho) if it makes HIM a shit head.

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Really for posting this-
which is complete bullshit,

your ass should be banned.

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No shit numb nuts. It takes time to work out payments like that. Yes he requested 50% upfront. We did not get into talking payments to the full extent because he didn't want to comply with my request for the domain names and ID scans. So i left it at that.. Made the post looking for another programmer. May not get a good name for someone who has been doing it for 20 years like blackmonsters says he has but there is someone out there that I'm sure needs a stable job and would enjoy working with us.

So suck my balls - Hows that for professionalism.

I asked for $400.

You confused lying tramp.

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Um, took me about 2 seconds to figure out where the $7200 number came from. So, yeah, it takes time (2 seconds after all is a passing of time), but countless hours?? Maybe doing the drama a bit there? Just maybe?

I have done a lot of business on this and other boards in the past ten years and not once was I asked for an ID, much less a list of domains. I have been asked for references and work samples, and I have asked for references but that is about as far as it goes.

If business can't be done on a handshake then you are definitely dealing with the wrong folks.

Just imho of course.


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Eaxactly what I would expect out of you at this point.




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If you had told me I needed 3 ID before I started then I would have told you that
I could not work for you. I don't have 3 IDs.

You can't have requirements like that and wait until payday to "drop the bomb".

And this is exactly why I asked for $400 now. I didn't want to work for 30 days
to find this shit out and not get paid for a whole month.

Also, I asked for $400 but I would have continued to work for $100 because I only
needed to see that you are going to pay.

You want ID , I want pay.

You need a programmer and no way will you find somebody with my experience
for $1200 a month again. Good luck with that.

And this whole thing about employees ripping you off.
How do they do this?
I sent you the work first? How can I then rip you off when you have all the files.

Depends on what they consider fulltime. If fulltime is a day and a half a month then they could get me for $1200 a month.

You are just so unreasonable, expecting logic to be used.................dammit.






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You asked Tom for 400$. Tom and i both agreed to send you 6 months for your full time hire. We did not talk about payment information because we didn't get that far because you set the rules for your own payment. "[3:21:50 PM] econfirmpro: What I said above is how it is. Not going to change."

[2:40:37 PM] Phil Gateway: We need to create a company record for you 1st. After this is done we will send you pay. If i under stand correctly you told Tom 600$ every 15th and 30th of the month.
[2:41:18 PM] Phil Gateway: If you are not serious about this job offer i need to know.

I did not continue explaining because he said "[2:41:30 PM] econfirmpro: This is going south realy fast."

Now to end this up i see you were offended when i told you not to be. And i told that to you 2 fuckin' times.

1. Please don't take offence to this either, but if you assume it is going down hill we would rather not hire you.

2. Just wanted to make that clear to you, no offence or hurt intended.

Go fuck yourself

Yeah, same here.

Nobody ever wanted even one ID, much less 3 IDs.
And when she also wanted a list of my domains then the alarm just went off.

Well, I have to get out of this thread. I have clients waiting on stuff and some of them read the board. Yeah guys I know, I'm getting to it dammit.

BM, you did nothing wrong here from what I can see. Perhaps took it to the boards quicker then some might have but I think this would have gotten to that point anyway.

Marlboro. You have some learning to do. Good luck.



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Hey Marlboro, you're an asshole. Don't be offended by that.

In fact you are a big fucking green dead donkey dick sucking pussy cunt assfuck of an asshole. Now, remember, don't be offended.






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buh bye now.


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I already told you i would work with just your drivers license. And it's only been 4 days you fuckin retard. And Xmas eve and Xmas does not count. And i also said i may or may not find someone with 12-20 years of experience. You told me 20 but then it kicked down to 12.

You can rip me off by me sending you money then you not doing what we have agreed with. ( And if you thought the 3ID's was asking to much i would have had you sign a contract as well )Then it would have ended in a law suit and waste more of my fucking time. I told you that you had to be serious about the job offer and if you were not then not to bother with us.

This is my last post to you Mike.. & troll.

WTF are talking about?

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Nobody here believes I asked for 6 months pay after 4 days of work.




I asked for $400 you said no, not without 3 IDs and a list of my domains.

I then told you that I would not work full time for you, because I was not going to
send you 3 ID; but I would do temp jobs if you paid 50% up front on those jobs.

You are either really clever to try and twist the conversation to cover you ass or
you are truly confused.

I suggest you email admin and get them to change the title of this thread.