Hey Job Creators - Where Are the Jobs?
 

Nice...



https://youtube.com/watch?v=_PDeWyjEuZs

Jobs died.

Figures the only politicians with any balls are Italian.




Chris Christie is half Italian, too. He's actually related to a former Genovese family boss.:1orglaugh

FUCK YEA! Right on DeFazio

the jobs are in motion

I stopped listening after the first 30 seconds when he started the premise off with a lie.

Which lie is that?

yes indeed, in motion to third world countries... job growth is awesome over there!

I can't stand congress. All they do is bitch at each other while doing the same exact shit just with different campaign donors.

"oooh oooh look at him he's really sticking it to the others".... :::yawn:::

We live in an global market place and global economy.
There are 2 choices...

1) accept and adapt to that reality, full participate and dominate.
2) lock down borders and stop all international trade/business and keep it all 100% within the borders.

People seem to think "blame the president" or Republicans etc are viable 3rd options, but that will never dictate whether or not Filipino programmers will work cheaper than an arrogant, lazy unemployable (er... "self employed") dickhead in Chicago that seems to feel his time is worth $90.00/hr for coding PHP.

(i didn't watch the video, I was simply commenting on your comment)

Didn't the dems promise jobs with the Stimulus?

To respond to the late-2000s recession, the primary objective for ARRA was to save and create jobs almost immediately
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America...nt_Act_of_2009

It's almost as if the more people try to influence and regulate the outcome, the worse the outcome is. ;)

we're waiting for a new president.

Again, it did that... it did it without question right at first, and much more, it just didn't do it as big as they wanted or for sure you expected.

I'm pretty sure that nobody is going to hire anyone unless they need employees.

Why would anyone "create" a job that isn't needed?

The entire economy needs to be brought back to life. THEN people will hire.

For instance...BFT3K, are YOU going to go hire two extra cameramen, a full time site designer and a guy to make promo materials for your sites?
NO.

You don't NEED them. But if you did NEED them you would hire them. Why waste money on shit you don't need.

I can only laugh when I see people on news programs complaining that big companies are "sitting on tons of cash".
IT'S THEIR MONEY. They can do with it what they want!

True.... Demand creates jobs and demand increases when fair wages happen. With the largest liquid pool of cash ever in history, they only need to pay more fairly - above the cost of living, more spending will naturally happen, thus demand increases.


True, they can do whatever they want with their money.... but because they aren't doing anything with it, also means they shouldn't get anymore tax breaks, cuts, loop holes, etc. Clearly, those things do not spark job growth or apparently much real growth at all outside of stock values.

If they really wanted to help, they would focus on smaller business only... killing my labor costs, no tax on labor, I would hire Americans - until then, I hire who can do the job for the cheapest price.

the government wants the intelligent successful to waste their money "creating jobs" to make the government look good.
The intelligent successful didn't get that way by doing stupid things. Regardless of what the idiots in Washington say.
This is a government problem not a problem of the successful

We're STILL trying to hire the same guy I mentioned last month. Stupid government bureaucracy takes forever.

Another words, tax breaks do not create jobs, they create more net revenues for the corps.

It would be amazing if one day you actually posted a solution rather than always bashing what you don't fully understand.

And truly, anyone that thinks it's okay to screw America(ns) over just to avoid making the Gov look good, shouldn't be allowed to be an American Citizen or own a Business here. That's about the most ass backwards failed logic, ever... really the logic is no better than that of a terrorist.

Obama admits it didn't work, why can't you?

In the magazine article, Mr. Obama reflects on his presidency, admitting that he let himself look too much like ?the same old tax-and-spend Democrat,? realized too late that ?there?s no such thing as shovel-ready projects? and perhaps should have ?let the Republicans insist on the tax cuts? in the stimulus.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...ward-and-back/

that makes no sense 40 percent of the stimulus was tax cuts and he has lowered taxes not raised them.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123111279694652423.html
The size of the proposed tax cuts -- which would account for about 40% of a stimulus package that could reach $775 billion over two years -- is greater than many on both sides of the aisle in Congress had anticipated. It may make it easier to win over Republicans who have stressed that any initiative should rely more heavily on tax cuts rather than spending.

That article does not say anything about him admitting it didn't work.... however, I have seen him say it didn't work as well as they wanted, that it wasn't perfect, which is what he says in that article.

It already has been proven and can easily be shown again that it did create jobs and did save jobs... it simply did not do it as well as they expected.

As well, note the articles never say that once they saw the issues, they corrected them. That the same repeating patterns did not get repeated..... but hey, that's minor shit to the fact that it didn't 100% work.

I agree 100%. No matter what incentives and tax breaks are offered, no one will be hiring.

As long as the largest corps can hire cheap overseas labor, they will. As long as all of our US companies are turning into multi-nationals, American jobs are irrelevant, especially when US workers make more than $1 p/hour, and we (rightfully) require ANY environmental restrictions or employee safety measures.

As long as 20% of the US population are unemployed, or under-employed, the demand for good and services here in the US will be lower than usual, making us a tough market for anyone selling average goods... or unnecessary things, like adult website memberships.

With the imbalance of wealth that we have now, the only 2 big markets for the US are either cheap Chinese crap and cheap foods, or super expensive niche items for the super rich.

The US has had numerous recessions. We have made it through all of them by allowing the government to (temporarily) grow and spend, to help create middle class jobs, to help pull us out. Every time, we have increased taxes as well. This time around however, we face 3 uphill battles:

1) Our debt is very high now, so many people do not want to dig any deeper.

2) Globalism has made the US living wage appear too high for most multi-national CEOs.

3) The 2 parties in DC refuse to compromise, no matter what, because they only care about their own power, and no longer answer to the American people.

There is much more to this, but I don't have too much time right now. Maybe I'll revisit this post later, to add more.

Hey not my words. Barry's!

OK, Let me ask you one thing, prove it saved jobs! You can't, which is convenient! LMAO

End result, he should have known that government regulation was going to keep the stimulus from working.

You can go on and on saying it worked, but the best you can do is say it kept it from getting worse, when there is no way or proving that, it's all conjecture.

And if it did work, why is Obama not saying that is worked before why not again with the new jobs bill and why did he call it somethiung different? Because it didn't work!

Yes I a agree. But I do hate to see a Big Company laying people off while showing massive profits at the same time.

1) Obama seems to want to dig deeper

2) NAFTA needs to go away

3) I agree they don't compromise, Clinton had the same problem and got results with Newt
and Reagan had the same problems and got results with Tip. It's because of bad leadership more than you will admit

here u go http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...67&emailView=1
I know you will say its not fox so it cant be true lol

Tea Party Demands all businesses quit hirig
 

The Tea Party has asked all members to write businesses and stop all hiring until after Obama is out of office.

http://www.truth-out.org/tea-party-b...ing/1319203324


http://www.teapartynation.com/profil...msg_share_post


Talk about stupid fuckers

Are you being Serious? We have proven that, over and over a gain on here... for damn sure when we focus on education jobs, that many States and Schools directly reported did help save jobs.

"Simply put, more people would be unemployed if not for the stimulus bill."
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/09/did...s-create-jobs/

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/31/us/31stimulus.html
Schwarzenegger:
“Some of our colleagues are saying that it hasn’t done much, or was a waste of money,” Mr. Schwarzenegger said, sharing the stage with Mr. Biden. “Well, I would dispute that.”

He said the stimulus had created or saved more than 100,000 jobs in California, the most in the nation, more than half of which — 62,000 — were the jobs of teachers, professors and school administrators. Mr. Schwarzenegger noted that some people have questioned whether those teachers would actually have been laid off without the stimulus. “No, those teachers would have been gone, if it wouldn’t have been for the federal stimulus money,” he said.




He has said it worked, and he said it didn't work as well as they wanted, and that it had abuse at the State level which he can't legally control, and that they redirected the funds to better areas once they saw it didn't work... the man learned, and improved the money uses.

Why would he repeat the same mistakes, why wouldn't he do something different?

If it's a different bill, for sure because it does different things, it should have a different name.

P.S. I don't support the new jobs bill. I understand now that nothing he does will help, even if he had the solution, it would fail because others refuse to allow anything to work, all to make him fail.

This motherfucker just got in office.... now he already failed? :1orglaugh

It's all one big show for those who want to get emotionally involved and bash/praise people. Like tv.

Are they using crayolas and ebonic spelling as usual? :1orglaugh

I can't believe you guys are running around saying that the OWS is all a bunch of individuals with no organization, and that the media is picking out wackos just to discredit it.... and then you turn around and do the EXACT SAME THING! This is ONE PERSON posting a message on some little blog board, and suddenly it's "The Tea Party has asked all members..."???


I really can't believe that you are all such suckers as to complain about unfair tactics, painting a disorganised movement all with the same brush, and then doing the exact same thing to another movement. You really are just sheep sometimes.


.:disgust


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I don't have time to search for this right now, but I recently read an article by a psychologist, suggesting that most people are actually born with a brain that is pre determinately biased.

If true, it explains why each side ignores the opposing viewpoint, as their political (social) positions have already been inbred.

How many people on GFY have EVER switched their polar position based upon reading ANYTHING the opposing side presents?

In the end, 90% of the members on this board claim they are Independent, but based upon the above assumptions, it is more likely that those who are REALLY Independent, is probably closer to 5%.... 10% maybe....

plenty of jobs in adult that need good people ASAP: http://xindustryjobs.info/

After the BS the CBO published during the obama care BS, I don't trust a thing they say. And again, it's pretty hard to prove they saved jobs

They won't work because he's a bad leader, he doen't know how to play well with others. If the first one had worked, he would be praising it and calling the jobs bill the Stimulus II

Ok, gotta love the quotes from Arnold, considering that asshole did this,
http://sfist.com/2010/09/13/schwarze..._a.php#photo-1
we need jobs and he's getting the bay bridge built in china?

Where did I get emotional? Take a pill and calm down, we're just having a discussion. It's friday and I'm gong to go thru a lot of rum tonight

wow. another topic you're clueless about.

dude, there's a reason you're where you are and they're where they are.:winkwink:

All you did was reverse what I said and ignore the truth that Republicans have refused to work with him, even on topics they've tried to push before. That's very far from him not working well with others, that's others totally refusing to do anything, which is exactly what is happening and happened from day one.

Well, the bill did work and past the jobs stuff, it worked very well and is still working today. So it doesn't look like he would call it the Stimulus II as it's a different bill all together.


You make it sound like it was all him and you ignore the amount of money saved, the hundreds of millions it would have cost a corp to produce it, and a bankrupt state, for a bridge they needed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/26/bu...pagewanted=all

?I don?t think the U.S. fabrication industry could put a project like this together,? Brian A. Petersen, project director for the American Bridge/Fluor Enterprises joint venture, said in a telephone interview. ?Most U.S. companies don?t have these types of warehouses, equipment or the cash flow. The Chinese load the ships, and it?s their ships that deliver to our piers.?

"Despite the American union complaints, former California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican, strongly backed the project and even visited Zhenhua?s plant last September, praising ?the workers that are building our Bay Bridge.?

"a 55-year-old steel polisher, is a typical Zhenhua worker. He arrives at 7 a.m. and leaves at 11 p.m., often working seven days a week. He lives in a company dorm and earns about $12 a day."