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TheRedZone 01-31-2003 02:37 PM

IBill Cheques Bouncing?
 
I just got a call from my bank, apparently I'm in overdraft because the IBill cheque I deposited last week was returned.

I called my rep who told me that Canadian banks are having a problem with the cheques from IBill Europe...I guess that means the one I deposited yesterday will be bad too. And the one I'm about to get in the mail next week.

The story sounds kinda weak to me, I deposit cheques from European banks every month with no problem. The worst of it is that IBill won't do anything for me until I mail them the original which is somewhere in the inter-fucking-national banking network.

They weren't that helpful and definately not apologetic.

Great fucking way to run a business! :feels-hot

twistyneck 01-31-2003 02:39 PM

Nice text color.

TheRedZone 01-31-2003 02:40 PM

Yeah, I changed it as soon as I saw what it looked like.

Rich 01-31-2003 02:42 PM

I'd read that if the font color was white

EscortBiz 01-31-2003 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheRedZone
I just got a call from my bank, apparently I'm in overdraft because the IBill cheque I deposited last week was returned.

I called my rep who told me that Canadian banks are having a problem with the cheques from IBill Europe...I guess that means the one I deposited yesterday will be bad too. And the one I'm about to get in the mail next week.

The story sounds kinda weak to me, I deposit cheques from European banks every month with no problem. The worst of it is that IBill won't do anything for me until I mail them the original which is somewhere in the inter-fucking-national banking network.

They weren't that helpful and definately not apologetic.

Great fucking way to run a business! :feels-hot

Sorry to hear, are you the guy I think you are?

Terenzo 01-31-2003 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz


Sorry to hear, are you the guy I think you are?

no, that's me :stoned

EscortBiz 01-31-2003 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by Terenzo


no, that's me :stoned

Whats your first name then?

TheRedZone 01-31-2003 02:49 PM

The one and only.

How do you like those signups I've been sending you? Glad you chose CCBill, at least I can put that money in the bank.

EscortBiz 01-31-2003 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by TheRedZone
The one and only.

How do you like those signups I've been sending you? Glad you chose CCBill, at least I can put that money in the bank.

Thanks I figured its you, thanks! and welcome to GFY your site does great sorry for the downtime I just switched over to CaveCreek and things are working great!

Your traffic is awesome!

m0rph3us 01-31-2003 02:54 PM

yeah ibillEU is probably fucked
ibillUS still pays on time :-/

TheRedZone 01-31-2003 03:02 PM

Quote:

Your traffic is awesome!
All the wankers have been filtered out by the time they get to your link. They're definately looking for escorts, its just a question of whether they'll pay or not.

EscortBiz 01-31-2003 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by TheRedZone


All the wankers have been filtered out by the time they get to your link. They're definately looking for escorts, its just a question of whether they'll pay or not.

True, but if they pay at least you know you get paid with a good check :-)

SleazyDream 01-31-2003 03:12 PM

why not get the funds wired?

TheRedZone 01-31-2003 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
why not get the funds wired?

I'm going to make the switch but that doesn't help me with the cheques already in the system, IBill won't do any thing for me until I can get the originals back to them.



WTF eh? When I bounce a cheque (rare, but I bounced a few today!) I work like a dog to make it good ASAP--IBill, on the other hand, is acting like this is all my problem. Of course, right now it is my problem

Terenzo 01-31-2003 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz


Whats your first name then?

sorry ;)

Voodoo 01-31-2003 03:20 PM

Well their name isn't "IPAY", that should have been your first hint/clue.

Brad Mitchell 01-31-2003 03:29 PM

Fucking hell! I have some good Canadian webmasters as hosting custmomers and this IBILL thing is really screwing with them. If they would have listened to me months ago they'd already be switched to CCBILL. Argh.

Brad

EscortBiz 01-31-2003 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by SinEmpire
Fucking hell! I have some good Canadian webmasters as hosting custmomers and this IBILL thing is really screwing with them. If they would have listened to me months ago they'd already be switched to CCBILL. Argh.

Brad

I wonder why ATN never started in the 3rd party online billing stuff, they would never fuck anyone (they would just fax 500 page call count reports daily that you cant understand :-)

wouncie 01-31-2003 03:44 PM

With Ibill, what can go wrong ..............

Brad Mitchell 01-31-2003 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz


I wonder why ATN never started in the 3rd party online billing stuff, they would never fuck anyone (they would just fax 500 page call count reports daily that you cant understand :-)

(no comment)

EscortBiz 01-31-2003 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by SinEmpire


(no comment)

omg are you having a problem with them?

Brad Mitchell 01-31-2003 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz


omg are you having a problem with them?

No, actually and I never have. I'm just hoping that they keep up the good work, I'd hate to jinx anyone!

Brad

EscortBiz 01-31-2003 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by SinEmpire


No, actually and I never have. I'm just hoping that they keep up the good work, I'd hate to jinx anyone!

Brad

oh ok knock on a woody

FATPad 01-31-2003 03:55 PM

Choose IBILL! When it absolutely positively never matters if you ever get paid again!

Trying to help their marketing team here...sorry.

Brad Mitchell 01-31-2003 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz


oh ok knock on a woody

We know all the big boys shave too much to ever go out of business. ROFLMAO hehehe

Brad

Kimmykim 01-31-2003 04:04 PM

Why would you have to send the originals back? I would think a fax copy front and back of the ones you have along with a copy of the bank notification should be more than sufficient for this situation.

They would stop payment on the checks you have in your possession and issue you new ones I would think.

EscortBiz 01-31-2003 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire


We know all the big boys shave too much to ever go out of business. ROFLMAO hehehe

Brad

Well I live with that fact and happy as long as I get my cut,

Brad Mitchell 01-31-2003 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz


Well I live with that fact and happy as long as I get my cut,

As long as my accounting is straight up correct down to my affiliates I'm not on the hook if *I* ever got shaved at a level above me... With that, I sleep well at night.

Brad

J B 01-31-2003 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Why would you have to send the originals back? I would think a fax copy front and back of the ones you have along with a copy of the bank notification should be more than sufficient for this situation.

They would stop payment on the checks you have in your possession and issue you new ones I would think.

That's exactly what we tried when a few checks of another company bounced. They didn't accept it and didn't issue new checks until we had sent them the originals back. And, of course, they didn't pay the returned check fees of our bank :mad:

WarChild 01-31-2003 04:24 PM

I just got ibill spam to an old merchant account email address. They're giving away a free, red, C5 corvette.

They gotta pay for that somehow you know.

Daymon

jimmyf 01-31-2003 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Why would you have to send the originals back? I would think a fax copy front and back of the ones you have along with a copy of the bank notification should be more than sufficient for this situation.

They would stop payment on the checks you have in your possession and issue you new ones I would think.

This is correct if you want 2 pay *YOUR* customers.:1orglaugh Now if you want 2 *FUCK* over your customers, and loose customers or just don't have a clue, That's ibill.:Graucho

PerfectionGirls 01-31-2003 04:31 PM

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IBill won't do anything for me until I mail them the original which is somewhere in the inter-fucking-national banking network.
Whatever you do.... DO NOT SEND THE ORIGINAL CHECK BACK TO THEM! Send a copy.... It is a felony charge here in the states to write bad checks above $100.00.

Thats why they are asking for the check back... Do not send it whatever you do.

FATPad 01-31-2003 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild
I just got ibill spam to an old merchant account email address. They're giving away a free, red, C5 corvette.

They gotta pay for that somehow you know.

Daymon

Hmm...sort of.

From what I understand they're giving away the use of a red vette for one year. It's a one year lease on a vette they're giving you.

WarChild 01-31-2003 04:33 PM

Does that include them not actually paying the lease, and you probably getting a fat bill at the end of the year?

Rich 01-31-2003 04:36 PM

When a number of people are all having "banking problems" with ibill checks, and a lot of people aren't getting paid at all, it's pretty obviously they don't have the money and are probably going under. If I used them right about now I'd be offering an incentive for my members to switch to a good biller like epoch or ccbill. No sense in going down with the ship.


Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Why would you have to send the originals back? I would think a fax copy front and back of the ones you have along with a copy of the bank notification should be more than sufficient for this situation.

They would stop payment on the checks you have in your possession and issue you new ones I would think.

Kimmykim, you're forgetting your worked at ccbill, they're a good company. Ibill is a terrible company.

EscortBiz 01-31-2003 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls


Whatever you do.... DO NOT SEND THE ORIGINAL CHECK BACK TO THEM! Send a copy.... It is a felony charge here in the states to write bad checks above $100.00.

Thats why they are asking for the check back... Do not send it whatever you do.

I think it depends what state

PerfectionGirls 01-31-2003 04:46 PM

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I think it depends what state
Well when it is sent to another counrty, Federal law takes over. The Federal law states that anything over $100.00 is a five year Felony.

Brad Mitchell 01-31-2003 04:56 PM

Because I've got hosting clients saying they can't pay me because of IBILL problems I am responding in the following manner:

Anyone that opens a new account with CCBill in the next two weeks can have a free license to 3600 photos (value $1000) that I own for their members area. There are currently only 3 licensed sets out there, it's practically exclusive. I am defining this as anyone that goes through the IPSP registration process and pays the fee, regardless of approval or denial.

Anyone that opens an account with CCBill AND moves to SinHost in the next MONTH can have the free photos and TWO months of free hosting and no setup charges provided they pay for their third month up front. No tricks!

If anyone wants to take me up on it, contact one of the two following CCBill reps and tell them you've had enough of the IBill insanity (and that Brad sent you):

Lange ICQ# 144268948
Sean ICQ# 84769138

This offer is open to everyone and completely unsolicited. I don't want credit of any sort. I just want to see more webmasters in the hands of my good friends at CCBill.

Sorry if this ruffles any feathers over at CCBill, they had nothing to do with this post. This is what you call tricke-down economics, folks. Hosts with clients that can't pay their bills aren't happy hosts.

:winkwink:

Cheers,

Brad:

jimmyf 01-31-2003 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
Because I've got hosting clients saying they can't pay me because of IBILL problems I am responding in the following manner:

Anyone that opens a new account with CCBill in the next two weeks can have a free license to 3600 photos (value $1000) that I own for their members area. There are currently only 3 licensed sets out there, it's practically exclusive. I am defining this as anyone that goes through the IPSP registration process and pays the fee, regardless of approval or denial.

Anyone that opens an account with CCBill AND moves to SinHost in the next MONTH can have the free photos and TWO months of free hosting and no setup charges provided they pay for their third month up front. No tricks!

If anyone wants to take me up on it, contact one of the two following CCBill reps and tell them you've had enough of the IBill insanity (and that Brad sent you):

Lange ICQ# 144268948
Sean ICQ# 84769138

This offer is open to everyone and completely unsolicited. I don't want credit of any sort. I just want to see more webmasters in the hands of my good friends at CCBill.

Sorry if this ruffles any feathers over at CCBill, they had nothing to do with this post. This is what you call tricke-down economics, folks. Hosts with clients that can't pay their bills aren't happy hosts.

:winkwink:

Cheers,

Brad:

I think you are funny.:1orglaugh








Oh and a pretty dam nice person also.:thumbsup

strainer 01-31-2003 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls


Well when it is sent to another counrty, Federal law takes over. The Federal law states that anything over $100.00 is a five year Felony.

Actually, not really. In the US legal system you have to have "mens rea" (the "evil mind") to be guilty of a felony. So if you bounce a $10,000 check but it was an honest mistake and you make good on it, no, it is not a felony.

(Former law school student until I sought something more profitable.) :evil-laug


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