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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-04-2011 07:28 PM

Female Porn Star Speaks Out About Industry Talent Escorting
 
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Adult industry performer Mariah Milano released the following OP/ED in light of the recent HIV scare in the adult industry:

Quote:

OP/ED by Mariah Milano

With the recent HIV scares and the big controversy over cross over talent there is one subject that seems to be constantly ignored that is a very serious double standard.

Porn stars escorting. I have been over this before and taken quite a beating for speaking out but I don?t fucking care. It needs to be said. If a girl goes and fucks some random guy in a hotel room and then continues to show up to sets to shoot how is that not being addressed as high risk for the rest of the industry?

If a girl gets her test on August 20 and fucks strangers in hotel rooms and does movies until September 19 when she tests again how is that not a very serious concern for OSHA and all the people screaming about the recent HIV crisis? It?s almost as if it isn?t really happening.

The reality is there are very few "Porn Stars" anymore. The huge majority are escorts who shoot some movies on the side to keep their per hourrates high. And please try and tell me that these girls who are being flown to Dubai for weekends for $50,000 are using condoms and tests are being provided by sheiks and princes!

That is enough to make me choke with laughter. It?s a very well-known fact that young boys are considered a delicacy in the Arab world and if theyare passed around into the mix with American Porn Stars where is OSHA and all the other harpies on this issue?

I think that the girls who escort should have to be regulated by the industry and that the few of us who actually earn our money by not fucking strangers in hotel rooms she be made aware of who is escorting and who isn?t and when their last test was. Of course this isn?t going to happen because that would be a massive undertaking and would require an organization that would have to be independent and have no bias to the industry or those in it and we all know that will never happen.

So we can all point fingers at the gay side of the industry which I totally agree is fucked up and very scary, but so many with a platform to actually make awareness on this issue are being silent? Why? I agree that studies show that HIV is very hard to pass from a woman to a man, but herpes or a list of other STD?s aren?t and it?s proven that people with STD?s are much more susceptible to HIV and blood-born virus? than those without it.

I will be called a hypocrite and told that fucking on camera is no different than fucking strangers in hotel rooms and all of that but I don?t care. I don?t care if a girl is a whore or not, privately or publicly. I care that they are doing it with strangers and then showing up to set the following day without a test in between and putting my health at risk and the health of everyone else and no one who counts and can do something about it is saying a fucking word.

Well said, Mariah! :thumbsup

ADG

19teenporn 09-04-2011 07:29 PM

I love those big boobs...

porno jew 09-04-2011 07:31 PM

tl;dr ....

GAMEFINEST 09-04-2011 07:32 PM

damn shes hot

d-null 09-04-2011 07:38 PM

hot looking promiscuous young women don't have to necessarily be "escorting" to be having hundreds of partners in a year, just meeting them at clubs or whatever, so her point seems a little prejudiced against "escorts" :2 cents:

but the issue she brings up about those that are flown to other countries is thought provoking to say the least

drmadcat 09-04-2011 07:44 PM

i dont think its just the females problem too what if the guy sleeps with someone

NemesisEnforcer 09-04-2011 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 18403547)
but the issue she brings up about those that are flown to other countries is thought provoking to say the least

LA, Vegas, NY, Miami ... it's common practice for a guy to offer more to fuck without a condom.

drmadcat 09-04-2011 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer (Post 18403560)
LA, Vegas, NY, Miami ... it's common practice for a guy to offer more to fuck without a condom.

true but i think the problem is 90% of the girls will do natural oral with no condom for no extra charge

anexsia 09-04-2011 08:11 PM

porn stars actually speak?

GatorB 09-04-2011 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 18403547)
hot looking promiscuous young women don't have to necessarily be "escorting" to be having hundreds of partners in a year, just meeting them at clubs or whatever, so her point seems a little prejudiced against "escorts" :2 cents:

plenty of sluts in my town that fuck just about anyone and don't use rubbers and do it for free just because they like sex.

Quote:

but the issue she brings up about those that are flown to other countries is thought provoking to say the least
And OSHA can't do squat about what happens in other countries

Makaveli 09-04-2011 08:20 PM

What about the male talent she's fucking then taking his load. She doesnt know what whore he was with the night before either. Sounds more like she is a bit jelous she's not getting 50k for her services.

Phoenix 09-04-2011 08:35 PM

she must have a computer installed in the kitchen

Mutt 09-04-2011 08:39 PM

alrighty, i say porn girls should be paid nothing if they're escorting because the companies they shoot for are giving them the exposure they require to summon the high fees they get as 'pornstar' escorts.


sad, US guys and girls sacrificing their lives to fight these assholes meanwhile LA porn whores making 50K to fuck the cretons who finance terrorism.

treasonous jezebels!

anexsia 09-04-2011 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18403597)
she must have a computer installed in the kitchen

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:pimp

NemesisEnforcer 09-04-2011 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by drmadcat (Post 18403572)
true but i think the problem is 90% of the girls will do natural oral with no condom for no extra charge

Very true. How could I forget the BBBJ? At the rate they charge, it's expected. Now that I think about it, you get that in the strip clubs in this neck of the woods.

Qbert 09-04-2011 08:56 PM

OSHA has nothing to say about porn performers that are also escorts because the latter is an illegal activity and as such they have no jurisdiction. You cannot regulate participant behavior of an activity that is itself illegal. The only enforcement option is arrest and prosecution for prostitution, and that's not a high priority for the police.

Also, when some of the larger escort services are owned and/or operated by the very same people that are the agents for many of these porn performers it's not going to be policed from within the industry either.

Mariah makes a valid point, but she's not the first to mention it. It comes up whenever there's a lengthy discussion of industry STD testing or prevention.

The only people with any practical means of actually enforcing any kind of policy on this topic are the studios and producers that pay the models, and there's still no way to control the escorting between shoots. All they can do is demand a test done within a shorter window.

Get outside of Porn Valley or a major producer and all bets are off anyway, you simply can't herd cats.

Redrob 09-04-2011 10:09 PM

A very complicated situation......for sure.

Paul Markham 09-05-2011 01:21 AM

The odds on a hooker having paid sex without a condom are higher than her having doing the same with a guy she met in a bar. Same goes for guys.

GatorB 09-05-2011 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18403839)
The odds on a hooker having paid sex without a condom are higher than her having doing the same with a guy she met in a bar. Same goes for guys.

Actually hookers and johns use comdoms at a higher rate than regular sluts.

jimmycooper 09-05-2011 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 18403856)
Actually hookers and johns use comdoms at a higher rate than regular sluts.

Agreed. :2 cents:

cherrylula 09-05-2011 05:22 AM

This is exactly why they should legalize prostitution, although that isn't exactly going to get rid of the risk of catching hiv when you fuck random people without a condom. :2cents

But there will always be a loophole.

I guess if you have sex with people you aren't sure don't have the hiv, you might just DIE. lol

Grapesoda 09-05-2011 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 18403547)
hot looking promiscuous young women don't have to necessarily be "escorting" to be having hundreds of partners in a year, just meeting them at clubs or whatever, so her point seems a little prejudiced against "escorts" :2 cents:

but the issue she brings up about those that are flown to other countries is thought provoking to say the least

the 'models' going to Arab countries are tested by the arabs.... those guys are very cautious

Grapesoda 09-05-2011 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18403839)
The odds on a hooker having paid sex without a condom are higher than her having doing the same with a guy she met in a bar. Same goes for guys.

I'm pretty skeptical about having sex with someone I just meet in a bar :2 cents:

Grapesoda 09-05-2011 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18403535)
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Adult industry performer Mariah Milano released the following OP/ED in light of the recent HIV scare in the adult industry:



Well said, Mariah! :thumbsup

ADG

the majority of the agents have issues with models doing escorts. it's interfering with booking the models on shoots

czarina 09-05-2011 05:51 AM

well said! I completely agree with her point. But it's not only the escorting girls, it is talent in general... how about porngirls who go to a bar, pick up a guy and have unprotected sex just because?
how about gay talent who pick up guys at a party and spend a weekend of wild sex, then again unprotected?
Don't tell me it doesn't happen. I've been in this industry for a looooooooooong time and have seen it all

vsex 09-05-2011 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18404083)
the majority of the agents have issues with models doing escorts. it's interfering with booking the models on shoots

That's a pretty naive statement. A lot of the agents book the models on both and make commission off both. (or turn them over to the escort agencies for a piece of the action)

Bladewire 09-05-2011 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariah milano (Post 18403535)
..................................................

So we can all point fingers at the gay side of the industry which i totally agree is fucked up and very scary, but so many with a platform to actually make awareness on this issue are being silent? Why?

I will be called a hypocrite and told that fucking on camera is no different than fucking strangers in hotel rooms and all of that but i don?t care.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Paul Markham 09-05-2011 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18404083)
the majority of the agents have issues with models doing escorts. it's interfering with booking the models on shoots

The majority of agents are unable to give a girl enough work. Threatened to choose one or the other, the majority of girls will do escorting.

Escorting Pros.
Pays more.
More work for many.
No chance of being found out, unless your Dad books you. :1orglaugh
Less time at the job.
Less time on the job.
Less being pounded like a piece of meat.
Less being treated like a piece of meat.
Less being treated like a slut.
Less risk of catching something, Johns don't want to take a disease home either.

Porn Star Pros.
Less chance of disappearing.

shimmy2 09-05-2011 08:08 AM

90% of the girls i film have already been selling their ass and have been doing so for years. with the exception of bbbjs most pro working girls in the US won't bareback

Paul Markham 09-05-2011 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy2 (Post 18404328)
90% of the girls i film have already been selling their ass and have been doing so for years. with the exception of bbbjs most pro working girls in the US won't bareback

The girls aren't that stupid.

One minor disease = 2 weeks out of work.

One major disease = Life fucked.

Grapesoda 09-05-2011 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vsex (Post 18404188)
That's a pretty naive statement. A lot of the agents book the models on both and make commission off both. (or turn them over to the escort agencies for a piece of the action)

depends which agent you are dealing with after shooting scenes on an almost daily basis for 10+ years I am anything but naive :2 cents:

Scott McD 09-05-2011 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 19teenporn (Post 18403538)
I love those big boobs...

Makes it hard to concentrate on what she's saying though...:1orglaugh

OneWhoKnows 09-05-2011 08:34 AM

Well, a lot of truth is in Mariah's post, sad but true.

I know a case - and no, I absolutely won't reveal names, cities or even countries here - where the scenario Mariah described almost happened. It was not in the US, but another continent and country. However, most of the girls there do exactly the same thing, escorting while they shoot porn. So, one girl was doing escort for one week in a big European city, there she even did anal without condom. She came back to her hometown, and continued shooting, as she still had a valid test and nobody knew about her escorting.

She was then tested positive when the next test was due. And somehow the truth came out pretty quick, and of course the girl's career was over immediately. Fortunately nobody caught it from her. But damn, what a risk. I mean, if they really think they need to do escort, and even without condom, fine. But doing it without any common sense and responsibility for others... Nope. This HAS to change, and it better changes fast. No wonder it gets harder and harder to find new talents, be it male or female. Because yeah, those girls and guys thinking about starting a porn career will probably read those stories (and the ones about nice "friends" posting their porn pictures on FB), too.

bronco67 09-05-2011 08:45 AM

I have never been with, or would be with an escort that didn't demand condom use. Is she assuming that the escort business works bareback?

MaDalton 09-05-2011 09:20 AM

there must be a post from me from 2 or 3 years back where i spoke about a girl that fucked some random guy between the trashbins outside a club and then next week showed up with her 2 or 3 week old (clean) test to shoot.

that's why i would prefer mandatory condoms AND full STD tests

vsex 09-05-2011 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18404345)
depends which agent you are dealing with after shooting scenes on an almost daily basis for 10+ years I am anything but naive :2 cents:

Doesn't mean you can't be wrong now and again :2 cents:

Shey 09-05-2011 09:58 AM

I don't get it, why would they put their lives at risk for a few bucks if they won't be around to enjoy it. Or worse, good luck paying for the health care that comes from catching HIV. Top it all off with putting others at risk?!?

CaptainHowdy 09-05-2011 10:00 AM

She is a heroe ... not really.

Porno Dan 09-05-2011 10:42 AM

I have to agree with her that 'escorting' is really starting to ruin the adult industry.

We shot anywhere from 40 to 50 models a month and as a result hear an awful lot of discussions about girls doing 'privates', 'sugar daddies', and 'overnights' etc...

It used to be the hooking side was not something that models openly discussed and surely would not do so in front of other models and a production crew.

I have asked many girls if they use condoms when they do 'calls' and the vast majority say they don't because the guys are 'tested'. When I pry and ask them how they know they say they are told so by the people who run the agency for which they work.

Most (not all) porn stars that escort would be insulted if you called them prostitutes, yet that is what they are.

It is a sad situation.

PornoMonster 09-05-2011 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneWhoKnows (Post 18404374)
Well, a lot of truth is in Mariah's post, sad but true.

I know a case - and no, I absolutely won't reveal names, cities or even countries here - where the scenario Mariah described almost happened. It was not in the US, but another continent and country. However, most of the girls there do exactly the same thing, escorting while they shoot porn. So, one girl was doing escort for one week in a big European city, there she even did anal without condom. She came back to her hometown, and continued shooting, as she still had a valid test and nobody knew about her escorting.

She was then tested positive when the next test was due. And somehow the truth came out pretty quick, and of course the girl's career was over immediately. Fortunately nobody caught it from her. But damn, what a risk. I mean, if they really think they need to do escort, and even without condom, fine. But doing it without any common sense and responsibility for others... Nope. This HAS to change, and it better changes fast. No wonder it gets harder and harder to find new talents, be it male or female. Because yeah, those girls and guys thinking about starting a porn career will probably read those stories (and the ones about nice "friends" posting their porn pictures on FB), too.

They escort for $1,200+ because a porn shoot pays $700-$900 and the girl has expenses sometimes a flight.
Escort no one knows about
Porn millions see her forever


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