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seeric 03-10-2011 04:47 PM

Have a bank account in the USA? Probably want to read this.
 
http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/10/pf/d...limit/?npt=NP1

Declined! Your debit card may soon be denied for purchases greater than $100 -- or even as little as $50.

JPMorgan Chase, one of the nation's largest banks, is considering capping debit card transactions at either $50 or $100, according to a source with knowledge of the proposal.

Why? Click the link.

FYI.

AaronM 03-10-2011 04:52 PM

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that this is never gonna happen. Not that low. :2 cents:

Barefootsies 03-10-2011 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 17971414)
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that this is never gonna happen. Not that low. :2 cents:

True dat. It sounds like more spin doctoring, and any bank doing it as a lone wolf will find that their customers will flee to other banks. I can also assure you credit unions will not follow suit.

woj 03-10-2011 04:58 PM

even if it happens, so what? unless you have terrible credit, credit cards are way better then debit cards...

seeric 03-10-2011 04:58 PM

Credit union is a safe bet. I don't know what the banks will do, but one thing is for sure. They are thinking of their profits, not you or I as a customer.

I am moving all my funds and accounts to USAA this week anyhow.

Seth Manson 03-10-2011 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 17971423)
even if it happens, so what? unless you have terrible credit, credit cards are way better then debit cards...

Have you forgot that we are in a recession and a lot of people have had their credit destroyed lately?

Or maybe you blame all of the declining sales on tube sites. Yeah people not having credit cards anymore have had nothing to do with it, its all the tube site's fault.

AaronM 03-10-2011 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 17971423)
even if it happens, so what? unless you have terrible credit, credit cards are way better then debit cards...


I haven't used credit cards for almost 9 years.

woj 03-10-2011 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 17971431)
Have you forgot that we are in a recession and a lot of people have had their credit destroyed lately?

Or maybe you blame all of the declining sales on tube sites. Yeah people not having credit cards anymore have had nothing to do with it, its all the tube site's fault.

I'm not visualizing how $100 limit on debit cards will effect anyone in the porn industry... can you clarify how that new limit could effect anyone here?

woj 03-10-2011 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 17971449)
I haven't used credit cards for almost 9 years.

Why not? what are some advantages of using a debit card over a credit card?

seeric 03-10-2011 05:18 PM

Couple things about credit cards Vs. debit cards

1) no interest on debit cards. fuck paying interest on anything. i am liquid. i have the cash. i wouldn't buy anything but cars and houses with credit.

2) no one carries tons of cash anymore, unless you are a pretend baller with a hundy wrapped around 20 different smaller bills. debit cards are immensely convenient. and you can run them as credit, which protects you and the the things you buy.

3) credit cards are ruined for people who are very money smart. i wouldn't touch any of the new credit card offers. they're sucker cards.

This is just another way for the banks to profit and prey on the people who are the most cash strapped.

If I missed anything feel free to list.

Wizzo 03-10-2011 05:19 PM

It would be for Debit Purchases only, you still could make credit purchases with your debit card for over that limit. Which I do anyway to collect airline miles. :pimp

woj 03-10-2011 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeric (Post 17971459)
Couple things about credit cards Vs. debit cards

1) no interest on debit cards. fuck paying interest on anything. i am liquid. i have the cash. i wouldn't buy anything but cars and houses with credit.

2) no one carries tons of cash anymore, unless you are a pretend baller with a hundy wrapped around 20 different smaller bills. debit cards are immensely convenient. and you can run them as credit, which protects you and the the things you buy.

3) credit cards are ruined for people who are very money smart. i wouldn't touch any of the new credit card offers. they're sucker cards.

This is just another way for the banks to profit and prey on the people who are the most cash strapped.

If I missed anything feel free to list.

1 + 3 are pretty weak reasons, as long as you have some financial discipline you wouldn't pay any interest on credit cards anyway... (as long as you pay your balance off each month)

AaronM 03-10-2011 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 17971454)
Why not? what are some advantages of using a debit card over a credit card?


No debt.

If I can't afford it, I don't buy it.

AaronM 03-10-2011 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 17971462)
It would be for Debit Purchases only, you still could make credit purchases with your debit card for over that limit. Which I do anyway to collect airline miles. :pimp

Good point. I do the same with both Alaska and United debit cards.

AaronM 03-10-2011 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 17971470)
1 + 3 are pretty weak reasons, as long as you have some financial discipline...


ANY sort of discipline is much easier when temptation is removed.

blackmonsters 03-10-2011 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeric (Post 17971409)
http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/10/pf/d...limit/?npt=NP1

Declined! Your debit card may soon be denied for purchases greater than $100 -- or even as little as $50.

JPMorgan Chase, one of the nation's largest banks, is considering capping debit card transactions at either $50 or $100, according to a source with knowledge of the proposal.

Why? Click the link.

FYI.

You ever notice all the "check cashing" store fronts that seem to be popping
up all over the place?

I think a move like this will just make more of these places pop up.
The check cashing business is just snatching up whatever business that banks
don't want. These places already sale "debit cards".

The only thing these places don't do yet is give out checking and saving accounts.
Interesting that nobody accepts checks anymore and nobody has any savings. :1orglaugh

I see a future in "Store Front Banking".

Introducing "Cash Monkey" : The Multiplexing Debit Card :

- The customer has 3 bank accounts with debit cards
- Cash Monkey will be used for the purchase
- Cash Monkey will split the charge amongst the customers 3 debit cards

Thus making a $50 limit into a $150 limit.



Cash Monkey! Join Now! :1orglaugh

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...3U8beb3zN0THr7

VikingMan 03-10-2011 05:41 PM

No worries, the sloths can just whip out their "gubment" debit cards when their other ones fail.

seeric 03-10-2011 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 17971470)
1 + 3 are pretty weak reasons, as long as you have some financial discipline you wouldn't pay any interest on credit cards anyway... (as long as you pay your balance off each month)

That's not true.

How much do you know about USA credit card offers?

Seth Manson 03-10-2011 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 17971450)
I'm not visualizing how $100 limit on debit cards will effect anyone in the porn industry... can you clarify how that new limit could effect anyone here?

Just like AaronM, I dont have credit cards. Dont need credit cards with a 6 figure income.

Home and vehicle are all I have financed, and didnt really need to finance the vehicle.

I have a $5000 daily limit on my debit card and I wont like that being reduced at all.

Sure, using it as a credit card works fine and racks up reward points. But it costs merchants more to process credit vs debit, and once you take the debit option away the merchants are going to raise their fees to cover their loss. In the end, the consumers get fucked. Like always.

Pretty much the only time I use my debit card and its less than $100 is for lunch or gas.

seeric 03-10-2011 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 17971491)
No debt.

If I can't afford it, I don't buy it.

Exactly. If more Americans had lived like you and I we wouldn't even have a recession. And that is a fact.:thumbsup

RyuLion 03-10-2011 06:05 PM

We keep most of our cash in a huge safe in our house. nuf said.

woj 03-10-2011 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeric (Post 17971540)
That's not true.

How much do you know about USA credit card offers?

probably more than an average person... some are shady, many are not, just need to read the fine print and spend within your means and you will be fine... :thumbsup

99.9% of problems people have with credit cards are due to spending more than they can afford to pay... :2 cents:

PStarks 03-10-2011 06:32 PM

reward cards are where it is at. I make about 700 bucks a year on misc rewards across my credit cards and pay off my balance weekly to avoid EVER paying interest. You can not go wrong with 1%~5% cash back on every dollar you spend. Just think about the good old days before the credit crunch when some people lived off exploiting credit reward deals. I have know people that used to get paid 1000 bucks a month just for using some reward cards the smart way.


A credit card is a tool just like a hammer. You build a house with it or break every finger on your hand if you have no skill to use it. Just treat it like a 3 week loan you took out with the local shark and PAY it! If you funnel your cash through cards you get nice savings :)

seeric 03-10-2011 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 17971583)
probably more than an average person... some are shady, many are not, just need to read the fine print and spend within your means and you will be fine... :thumbsup

99.9% of problems people have with credit cards are due to spending more than they can afford to pay... :2 cents:

Bingo. Basically what I was saying. Lot's of really deceptive offers being mailed to people now too through the US Mail. People are getting sucked in all over. A whole new wave of morons tainting our financial system. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
:thumbsup

seeric 03-10-2011 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PStarks (Post 17971586)

A credit card is a tool just like a hammer. You build a house with it or break every finger on your hand if you have no skill to use it. Just treat it like a 3 week loan you took out with the local shark and PAY it! If you funnel your cash through cards you get nice savings :)

Fantastic analogy.

Grapesoda 03-10-2011 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 17971449)
I haven't used credit cards for almost 9 years.

4 for me

mynameisjim 03-10-2011 06:35 PM

lol. This is just more pushback tactics by industries that don't want reform. It's a warning to leave them alone.

When health care laws are passed, the health insurance companies raise rates and send out a press release about it to make sure everyone hears about it. Who sends out a press release when they raise rates 30%?

Same here, they are trying to prove that they will turn any sort of reform into a hassle for consumers. So next time anyone brings up reform, they can point to this example.

Old ass tactic and it's a way to make Americans adverse to reform. This is why compromise style reforms never work, because it leaves loopholes.

woj 03-10-2011 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 17971542)
But it costs merchants more to process credit vs debit, and once you take the debit option away the merchants are going to raise their fees to cover their loss. In the end, the consumers get fucked. Like always.

that's what happens when you meddle with free markets... :2 cents:
everything was working fine for decades and then some politician thought it will be a good idea to put price ceilings on debit card fees... banks will find a workaround for it and like you said consumers will probably get fucked... :thumbsup

PStarks 03-10-2011 06:50 PM

Oh dear lord you lost me with this "free" market myth... It is only "free" to the people that have enough money to lobby for laws in their favor... funny how that works out isn't it?

alias 03-10-2011 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 17971594)
lol. This is just more pushback tactics by industries that don't want reform. It's a warning to leave them alone.

When health care laws are passed, the health insurance companies raise rates and send out a press release about it to make sure everyone hears about it. Who sends out a press release when they raise rates 30%?

Same here, they are trying to prove that they will turn any sort of reform into a hassle for consumers. So next time anyone brings up reform, they can point to this example.

Old ass tactic and it's a way to make Americans adverse to reform. This is why compromise style reforms never work, because it leaves loopholes.

This makes sense.

fuzebox 03-10-2011 07:01 PM

Funny that the article is about Chase, as they allowed $1k to be stolen from my account using my debit card :Oh crap

Screwed Up 03-10-2011 07:58 PM

I'm pro debit cards.
But fuck, recently I had problems charging flight tickets (on the phone) and hosting (recurring) to my debit card because of this Verified By Visa crap. Since they don't have the pin number it seems they cant bill it...

AaronM 03-10-2011 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screwed Up (Post 17971690)
I'm pro debit cards.
But fuck, recently I had problems charging flight tickets (on the phone) and hosting (recurring) to my debit card because of this Verified By Visa crap. Since they don't have the pin number it seems they cant bill it...


Yeah, that Verified by Visa crap sucks.

Vendzilla 03-10-2011 08:12 PM

I had a problem renting a car with a debit card once, but other than that, I'm getting rid of my credit cards.

AaronM 03-10-2011 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17971714)
I had a problem renting a car with a debit card once, but other than that, I'm getting rid of my credit cards.


PayPal business debit card gets around that most of the time.

Also, most rental car companies will rent to non-locals with a debit card if they have a return flight, train, bus ticket.

Kiopa_Matt 03-10-2011 08:33 PM

From the article:

Quote:

"Banks just can't seem to catch a break."
Yeah, that $18 billion in profit JP Morgan Chase makes every year must be really rough. Tough times, indeed.

The delusional greed and arrogance of some people like this amaze me. Gee, so you're only going to profit $17.5 billion next year instead of $18 billion. If I were you, I'd find ways around government legislation so I could continue raping and pillaging everyone too.

fuzebox 03-10-2011 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17971714)
I had a problem renting a car with a debit card once, but other than that, I'm getting rid of my credit cards.

Enterprise is very debit card-friendly :thumbsup

Due 03-10-2011 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt (Post 17971739)
From the article:



Yeah, that $18 billion in profit JP Morgan Chase makes every year must be really rough. Tough times, indeed.

The delusional greed and arrogance of some people like this amaze me. Gee, so you're only going to profit $17.5 billion next year instead of $18 billion. If I were you, I'd find ways around government legislation so I could continue raping and pillaging everyone too.

It's a business, if you take away 1 billion from someone, obviously they are going to bitch about it. I really doubt any sane person would say "ohh well, I didn't really need it anyway"... And in case they didn't bitch, I certainly didn't wanna put my money under their control :1orglaugh

Elli 03-10-2011 09:21 PM

I've always used debit cards. It saves me carrying cash and it takes the money right out of my bank account. No fuss, no muss, and I have a no fee account, so I'm not dinged to use the card. It's simply a method of transaction. I don't really understand all the fuss the States is having with these cards.

Supz 03-10-2011 09:46 PM

They kind of want you to use your card as credit now anyway. They give you points for credit transaction on your bank card.

Is this is DEBIT transactions only, where you have to put in your pin, or credit swipes on your bank card as well?


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