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RogerV 10-21-2010 11:37 PM

If you had the power to make one change in this industry what would it be?
 
I think I would Censor all the free porn. Pay to see Pussy or cock

stocktrader23 10-21-2010 11:43 PM

That's an obvious one and something that has been a problem for the entire time the industry has been around.

I would go with a more realistic option of lowering the barrier to purchasing content to a point where it was an impulse buy.

amateurcanada 10-21-2010 11:50 PM

Censor yes - but an industry trend to censor even overly aggressive trailers and previews on sites. You don't see porn mags giving away the surprise on the cover. You buy to see it :P

MrMaxwell 10-21-2010 11:55 PM

I would make it more difficult for assholes to get into the business
Make it more like opening a B&M business
But I'd never want the govt to be trusted with regulating it, it'd be a huge violation of our rights, and so it will never happen unless the people in the biz wise up and work together which will never fucking happen anyway

Also I think maybe some day the control of the net won't be in the hands of a few companies like google and everything. I think the major dominance of traffic by a couple of things will not go on forever

Like we have 100s of television networks (that will also die) we'll have many portals into finding data/content online

That is how I see it
Wow I am spitting all kinds of wisdom this evening
shit
oops

the Shemp 10-22-2010 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV (Post 17630917)
I think I would Censor all the free porn. Pay to see Pussy or cock

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=77746

Roger, you are consistent ...:thumbsup

MrMaxwell 10-22-2010 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 17630963)
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=77746

Roger, you are consistent ...:thumbsup

Hey do you remember when I sent you that crazy huge gallery with full sized pictures as thumbnails and 50mb videos??? That sure was crazy
I think I was drunk :error

I think you're a good businessman.. I like you

the Shemp 10-22-2010 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 17630964)
Hey do you remember when I sent you that crazy huge gallery with full sized pictures as thumbnails and 50mb videos??? That sure was crazy
I think I was drunk :error

I think you're a good businessman.. I like you

yes, i do...
and MrMaxwell, you are very unique...dont change...

RogerV 10-22-2010 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 17630963)
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=77746

Roger, you are consistent ...:thumbsup

wow I forgot about that post :winkwink:

I used to think maybe its the economy etc. till I started to sell mainstream products online and realized people will pay if they want something.

I just dont get the giving away free porn to sell cams and dating.

mcdonalds doesnt give away fries to sell burgers. they sell fries etc. cheap and upsell the good stuff. you can only eat the $1 menu for so long

MrMaxwell 10-22-2010 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 17630974)
yes, i do...
and MrMaxwell, you are very unique...dont change...

Thank you.. I think.. LoL over here

As well liked as I am by some of the bigger fish in the industry, you'd think I would have done better when I was actually doing fairly well

I am not sure what I just said :1orglaugh

the Shemp 10-22-2010 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV (Post 17630983)
wow I forgot about that post :winkwink:

I used to think maybe its the economy etc. till I started to sell mainstream products online and realized people will pay if they want something.

I just dont get the giving away free porn to sell cams and dating.

mcdonalds doesnt give away fries to sell burgers. they sell fries etc. cheap and upsell the good stuff. you can only eat the $1 menu for so long

i thought a 10 second video clip was a big deal 10 years ago...
now if you arent giving the surfer free full length movies, you are no longer relevant...

the Shemp 10-22-2010 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 17631002)
As well liked as I am by some of the bigger fish in the industry, you'd think I would have done better when I was actually doing fairly well

:1orglaugh

"dont get involved in talking politics or religion on GFY and you will double your income..."

free advice from the shemp ...

RogerV 10-22-2010 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 17631010)
i thought a 10 second video clip was a big deal 10 years ago...
now if you arent giving the surfer free full length movies, you are no longer relevant...

I know its crazy. I saw it coming I was like how can I innovate if the product i'm selling is FREE. so Now my new system is get paid to watch porn. it was the only thing i could come up with lol

GlobalCorp 10-22-2010 12:41 AM

Lack of unity

MrMaxwell 10-22-2010 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 17631015)
"dont get involved in talking politics or religion on GFY and you will double your income..."

free advice from the shemp ...

"Don't post on GFY" would have been good enough!! LoL!!!!!!

PornMD 10-22-2010 02:21 AM

Somehow undo all the card banging that went on with hidden cross-sales and whatnot so surfers would feel at ease using their CC on an adult site. You not only have to convince them to pay for something that's free everywhere, but you have to convince them to trust that you're not going to fuck their CC.

Paul Markham 10-22-2010 03:05 AM

Raise hosting and BW prices back to where they were 10 years ago.

Would take so much free porn both hard, medium and soft out of circulation the effect would be felt over night.

gideongallery 10-22-2010 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV (Post 17630917)
I think I would Censor all the free porn. Pay to see Pussy or cock

personally i would like people in this industry to start thinking about the negative consequences to what they attempt to do.

ask yourself what happens if i lose that case, what precedent would be created.

or what would happen if censorship (like the one your calling for ) was totally legal

think for a second what would happen if free speech was limited so greatly that across the entire internet all free porn could disappear

how long do you think porn as a whole would live after that.

punkpred 10-22-2010 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17631174)
Raise hosting and BW prices back to where they were 10 years ago.

Would take so much free porn both hard, medium and soft out of circulation the effect would be felt over night.

:thumbsup :2 cents:

seeandsee 10-22-2010 03:43 AM

Max 20 thumbs per pic gallery page or 3x 10 sec clips per vid gallery

sky rocket sales...

Paul Markham 10-22-2010 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17631216)
personally i would like people in this industry to start thinking about the negative consequences to what they attempt to do.

ask yourself what happens if i lose that case, what precedent would be created.

or what would happen if censorship (like the one your calling for ) was totally legal

think for a second what would happen if free speech was limited so greatly that across the entire internet all free porn could disappear

how long do you think porn as a whole would live after that.

What precedent does doing nothing create?

Porn existed long before the Internet and for those in it was much more profitable. Porn outside the Internet exists in a world where it's censored. So why does censoring the Internet mean the end of porn?

i would like you to start thinking before you post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee
Max 20 thumbs per pic gallery page or 3x 10 sec clips per vid gallery

sky rocket sales...

TGPs so expensive to host that those that don't sell can't sit on the Internet. Would be so much better.

In my time producing porn I've learned men will jerk off to anything. From the softest of glamor images to a full 20 minute hardcore DP, Bukake Gang Bang. Removing the 20 minute scene still leaves the softcore. Reducing galleries to 20 images still leaves the possibility of the consumer collating lots of different images to jerk off to in a slide show.

The biggest problem today is the cost of throwing out endless amounts of free jerk off material.

Barefootsies 10-22-2010 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 17630958)
I would make it more difficult for assholes to get into the business
Make it more like opening a B&M business
But I'd never want the govt to be trusted with regulating it, it'd be a huge violation of our rights, and so it will never happen unless the people in the biz wise up and work together which will never fucking happen anyway

Also I think maybe some day the control of the net won't be in the hands of a few companies like google and everything. I think the major dominance of traffic by a couple of things will not go on forever

Like we have 100s of television networks (that will also die) we'll have many portals into finding data/content online

That is how I see it
Wow I am spitting all kinds of wisdom this evening
shit
oops

Now this is a man who understands how to run a business. Including keeping the government out of it. They are not to be trusted. Yet all these broke ass jokes are always crying to get them involved.
:disgust

Paul Markham 10-22-2010 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 17630958)
I would make it more difficult for assholes to get into the business
Make it more like opening a B&M business

Without it getting very expensive to open a website or get into the Adult Internet business, Government regulation across the world is the only option. Or maybe Visa regulation which flies in the face of less control by a few companies.

Quote:

But I'd never want the govt to be trusted with regulating it, it'd be a huge violation of our rights, and so it will never happen unless the people in the biz wise up and work together which will never fucking happen anyway
Wouldn't it be nice if there were less control, less laws and less regulation covering the Internet. It would mean less people breaking laws, because there would be less laws to break. IE more piracy.

I don't want to trust Governments to regulate the Internet. However I see what has happened today with the lack of effective regulation and without it I don't see it improving.

Quote:

Also I think maybe some day the control of the net won't be in the hands of a few companies like google and everything. I think the major dominance of traffic by a couple of things will not go on forever

Like we have 100s of television networks (that will also die) we'll have many portals into finding data/content online
I actually think the opposite. Google will increase it's control, along with companies like Manwin. I see hahaha is still buying or "managing". :1orglaugh

And without regulation will those portals will be finding free or paid for content?

CaptainHowdy 10-22-2010 06:16 AM

Free to watch the porn; pay to watch the actors talk with eachother, dress up and so on...

pornguy 10-22-2010 06:27 AM

Entrance exam for webmasters.

GatorB 10-22-2010 06:28 AM

I would ban all the dipshits and assholes form GFY.

Paul Markham 10-22-2010 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17631443)
I would ban all the dipshits and assholes form GFY.

Form GFY? :1orglaugh

gideongallery 10-22-2010 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17631234)
What precedent does doing nothing create?

do you even know what a precedent is paul ?

doing nothing doesn't set a precedent but that the point
doing nothing doesn't change anything
setting a bad precedent makes things WORSE.
if you thought before you acted, you would make the case only winable, or your would minimize the downside if you lost.

Quote:

Porn existed long before the Internet and for those in it was much more profitable. Porn outside the Internet exists in a world where it's censored. So why does censoring the Internet mean the end of porn?
the internet is just a medium, roger is taking about changing free speech to a level that you can censor porn on a medium, guess what that change would exist across all mediums. Hell it would be anti competitive if it did not.

that why such a change would be bad paul.



Quote:

i would like you to start thinking before you post.
maybe you should take your own advice, then you would realize that changing the laws/rules to allow the censorship on one medium, is going to effect all mediums.

Overload 10-22-2010 08:38 AM

no more facials ... too unrealistic :2 cents:

GatorB 10-22-2010 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17631453)
Form GFY? :1orglaugh

you're first.

LAJ 10-22-2010 09:31 AM

I'd send 1/2 the industry packing.

RogerV 10-22-2010 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 17631441)
Entrance exam for webmasters.

LMAO good one:1orglaugh

donkevlar 10-22-2010 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV (Post 17630983)
wow I forgot about that post :winkwink:

I used to think maybe its the economy etc. till I started to sell mainstream products online and realized people will pay if they want something.

I just dont get the giving away free porn to sell cams and dating.

mcdonalds doesnt give away fries to sell burgers. they sell fries etc. cheap and upsell the good stuff. you can only eat the $1 menu for so long

You can't really compare burgers to porn...

A better example would be that musicians have to give away music for free to sell concert tickets.

donkevlar 10-22-2010 05:19 PM

Oh and to answer the question... I would get rid of all the cry babies who think the world owes them something because they produce or sell smut.

Tempest 10-22-2010 05:25 PM

One of my sponsors censors their content.. Their conversion ratio is almost 2x that of their comparable competitor. But yeah, the one thing I'd change if it was possible is limiting how much free porn is available and censoring it. But this business is no longer about the "porn", it's about the traffic. Hasn't been about content for a very long time now.

CyberHustler 10-22-2010 05:29 PM

ICQ. Fuck that thing.

But if I can change 2 things, the second would be spitting on private parts in scenes. I hate it and watch something else as soon as I see that.

Ethersync 10-22-2010 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlobalCorp (Post 17631019)
Lack of unity

It Takes a Village to make porn profitable?

Sorry, that ain't the problem...

Loki 10-22-2010 08:41 PM

IF I had the power to, I'd flip a switch and delete ALL of the 'borrowed' content from PAYSITES, talk about a huge amount of sites all the sudden having a big loss of content :) :Oh crap

BUT, with that said, the day I could do that is the same day I would have to create and become the first "Adult Webmaster Protection Agency" as I would deff be a marked man.

-Loki-

Spunky 10-22-2010 08:59 PM

Tell the dudes to shut the fuck up in the background and fat men eating cans of corn

will76 10-22-2010 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV (Post 17630917)
I think I would Censor all the free porn. Pay to see Pussy or cock

damn you still here, i guess I don't have the power....

j/k I wouldn't waste my wish on you :winkwink:

will76 10-22-2010 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17631216)
personally i would like people in this industry to start thinking about the negative consequences to what they attempt to do.

ask yourself what happens if i lose that case, what precedent would be created.

or what would happen if censorship (like the one your calling for ) was totally legal

think for a second what would happen if free speech was limited so greatly that across the entire internet all free porn could disappear

how long do you think porn as a whole would live after that.

blah b lah blah, people should stop stealing content and sharing it. period. everythign else you say is blah blah blah blah


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