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paysites with no trailers =
shitty content....
I'm talking stuff like http://www.mygflovesanal.com see the play button that then leads you to the join page.... that tells me one thing... shitty content inside members area..... if your not willing to show a trailer of what the content is like then you have shitty content... yeah I said it ill say it again..... ive been in the biz long enough to know that doing stuff like that does NOT increase sales... you want to see a good site.. with good content go to claudia-marie.com trailers for every video in the members area... thats a good site... sites with no trailers = trash.... |
Awwwww, Danza and robbie are buds....
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nah, mostly people do that so their bandwidth bill is low.
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I thought people don't give trailers or some type of free content because it's easier to build tours this way.
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There was a long thread a while back... I think it was EscortBiz that said that it increased sales on his network.
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all's im saying is look at good quality content....
yeah im friends with robbie and claudia .... but this was an unbiased fact I was stating... I can honestly say that I am a surfer at heart ... and that would piss me the fuck off.... I will list a few more quality content sites.... www.amateurallure.com www.sweetloads.com www.anything duke dollars has to offer that they shot.com (I don't speak for their aquired content but then again I havent watched www.anything how i got rich shot.com these are quality sites... quality content... oh and one of my favs www.room213.com who ever shot that knows what the fuck they are doing.... |
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OMFG< amateur allure. YOu done said enough son!!!!!
Thomas!!!! now thats quality content!!! |
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Did i mention that you and me are gonna fight!!! I just got two phone calls tonight offering me trips to vegas... so its coming son... Get your mits on! You better not hurt me :1orglaugh:1orglaugh |
hahahahaha... get your ass here.. ill give you the mma gloves and ill rock the 16's....
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We don't offer free clips... part of the tease factor. If they want to see our twins play and frolic, they have to pay for it. ;)
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the sole purpose of the trailers are to tease, but don't mix the trailers and badly done mix of the chunks glued together.
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I don't think that's true, I've had sponsors that no trailers and had shitty content areas outconvert sponsors with trailer tours and good content.. it's all in the pitch, sometime you pitch around a trailer, sometimes it's about teasing them with pic wondering what vids are like on the inside.
Trailers have their place on some tours, other tours do better without. |
that site looks like it's in the ex-gf stolen pics niche so it could work.
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Hmmm....
I think video trailers are a must, and help with the tease factor !
Check out the trailers at VictoriaSummers.com and LouisaMay.com shows a hint of whats inside and a little personality to boot... |
shitty content inside members area... yes...
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And the seconds long laughs and "pls sir" statements sound to unnatural. I think those are perfect examples of the trailers that do more damage then good to the site. Other then that, sites are designed to embed much bigger trailers then the ones up now. On the http://www.louisamay.com/ it looks somewhat good, but totally silly on http://www.victoriasummers.com/ So basically you can't put all the trailers in the same basket, great ones will sell better then the shitty mix of clips with boring music background. On the other hand great trailer is not always the one with the fancy animations, hardcore music etc ... it all depends on the site theme. |
It's true, tours without trailers (or maybe just 1 trailer) will convert better than tours with trailers for every scene.
However, in todays world you are also trying to sell the tour to affiliates, so if you don't have any trailers you wont get as much traffic. Two things I am certain of is that: 1) a tour with many trailers is not good for conversions. and 2) a tour with many good screen caps of each clip and no trailer is best for conversions. |
everyone go's around the facts....
bottom line is if your content is good then show it.. now don't give to much away.. but trailers are key to whats inside... as for the comment of the guy that promotes a shitty content area... your part of the reason that surfers don't join sites anymore... if everyone stopped promoting shitty members areas... and acutually gave a fuck about the surfer then we would not be where we are today.... you realize that affiliates have killed the paysite game by wanting 40-50 bucks per signup ...... FUCK YOU all in favor of regression to old school of nothing but 50/50 revshare say I I |
Funny I just put in a request for a trailer free tour just like your first sample for one of the best sites in the world.
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Here is another example of what I am talking about.....
http://www.18andabused.com great looking site... ive visited it many times hoping to join... but guess what they do the ole bait and switch deal and pretend to have trailers... |
just join stop looking for free trailers.
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In an era where our industry is suffering because of too much porn being given away for free, you want to give porn away for free? :winkwink: |
There are several factors to keep in mind and no site is 100% equal to another, but in my experience, statistics shows no trailer tours beats trailer tours in up to 400%, we're not talking about pennies, but up to 400%, so really have no idea where are you getting this idea from. This being said, I'm talking about regular trailers, the ones webmasters make showing excerpts of their episodes. Professionally made trailers oriented to SELL rather than displaying the scene may have very different results, but they're way more expensive, so it's not like many sites are willing to build them (as a matter of fact, there might be like 0.1% or less of existing paysites using SELLING trailers)
Now I expect Robbie to say his usual yadda yadda, but as I said many times, Claudia Marie is a very special site, while 99.99% of sites are just similar between each other, only changing niche or theme. Thus, when you show what's inside, people will see they have EXACTLY THE SAME as 99.99% of existing sites. Period. Anyway, you can argue all what you want, numbers shows exactly the opposite, and as long as I'm always willing to jump on the results train, unless shown otherwise, I'll keep trusting objective numbers and research rather than someone telling a theory not backed by numbers (=money). The day someone shows situation has changed, that day I'll jump into the trailer train or whatever makes more money. As simple as that. |
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Um last time i checked FHGs convert pretty well with 30 sec teasers... And with all the free stolen shit online i dont see having some teasers being a harm for conversions.
And if you cant afford the bandwidth of your trailers then something is wrong, bandwidth isnt that pricey these days... |
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Did he just yadda yadda sex!??!?!
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What is this? Gay tennis?
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