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Amputate Your Head 06-03-2010 08:53 AM

BP's Oil Leak A Permanent Game Changer?
 
It's beginning to appear that the southern states of LA, MS, AL are going to be fucked for a long long time.... but what does the future hold?

What happens when this oil is dragged by the currents and storms down through the Florida Keys and takes out the Miami beaches? Florida is a key election state. This could change everything. If florida's beaches are fouled for generations, Florida's tourism goes with it and Florida all but dies.

What happens to New Orleans when the wetlands are destroyed? Are we witnessing the end of some of our major coastal areas? The people already out of business (fisherman, shrimpers, etc...) are now working for BP, using their boats to help clean up efforts, but now they are getting sick... people have been admitted to the hospital for poisoning from exposure to all the oil and their boats are deteriorating. And they have not been paid by BP, but fear speaking up about it.

I think at this point we can safely say, this oil leak is going to change things forever. The question is... to what degree? And we really need to stop giving speaking platforms to idiots like Sarah Palin. Even the news channels are straight up calling her an idiot now, on the air. No more dancing around it or giving her the benefit of the doubt.... she is retarded. Plain & simple.

I'm very interested in how they expect to clean this up. I don't see it happening. If it fouls the wetlands, those are done, and probably New Orleans along with them. They can't be 'cleaned' with high pressure hoses like they attempted with Valdez. We are spectators to what is quickly becoming a global event. Once the hurricanes start coming in, all bets are off. What will happen to the rest of the Caribbean? Cuba, Jamaica, Cancun,.... many, many islands..... Makes me fucking sick. :disgust

2010: The year we poisoned the Gulf of Mexico. Drill baby, drill.

Marcus Aurelius 06-03-2010 08:55 AM

Sell your ocean front property while you can.

Fletch XXX 06-03-2010 08:55 AM

i cant even begin to describe how its already affected our area man. beaches I played on growing up, covered in oil, wetlands I grew up fishing in, covered in oil. disperants already affecting food local people getting sick, tons of my friends and family havent worked since it happened... its a nightmare. volunteers under gag orders cant even discuss the effects the oil and disperants are having on them. Just like in 9/11 clean up crews and rescue workers,...

Caligari 06-03-2010 08:58 AM

Saw a report yesterday where they found a beached dolphin with oil coming out of its mouth. Almost threw up thinking about it. Shit is fucked up.

dropped9 06-03-2010 08:58 AM

I don't even know what to say anymore about it.

How is is going to affect the natural flow of water when the current drag it through the globe. This could alter them forever as well. Can we say ice age anyone?

BestXXXPorn 06-03-2010 08:58 AM

Most of Florida's tourism monies come from Central Florida I believe... although I'm sure it would still be catastrophic... I foresee a state income tax in Florida's future if the beaches get destroyed...

I, personally, would love to see the $0.08 per barrel tax go away and oil companies becomes 100% liable for ALL damages... That would make them put many safety measures in place as the risk would be too great... as it stands the risk is only for initial clean up + $75M... Chump change.

dropped9 06-03-2010 09:00 AM

I just cant believe they were allowed to drill with no tried and true measures to stop something like this from happening...

Agent 488 06-03-2010 09:00 AM

it is america's chernobyl. and will pay a similar role in the decline of the US that chernobyl did during the decline of the soviet union.

Caligari 06-03-2010 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 17205561)
i cant even begin to describe how its already affected our area man. beaches I played on growing up, covered in oil, wetlands I grew up fishing in, covered in oil. disperants already affecting food local people getting sick, tons of my friends and family havent worked since it happened... its a nightmare. volunteers under gag orders cant even discuss the effects the oil and disperants are having on them. Just like in 9/11 clean up crews and rescue workers,...

that is so fucked up, i lived in New Orleans for 8 years in all and 8 more on the Mississippi coast...cannot believe how bad it is now. Things were brutal after Katrina, but this is something altogether different.

using toxic dispersants on the ocean....what the fuck. who's brilliant idea was this?

Fletch XXX 06-03-2010 09:01 AM

http://media.nola.com/2010_gulf_oil_...fa7a85ef28.jpg

everyone i know who works the waters is out of work right now.

ThunderBalls 06-03-2010 09:04 AM

Obviously karma. The south hates the color black and now........

dropped9 06-03-2010 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 17205593)
Obviously karma. The south hates the color black and now........

Theres always an asshole in the bunch...

TheDoc 06-03-2010 09:08 AM

The green movement is coming, this the extreme huge push we needed to jump technologies and become the leaders in producing something the world ones, again!

Amputate Your Head 06-03-2010 09:08 AM

They said last night on the news that the oil is 9 miles from Florida's coast now. (well, last night, who knows where it is now). I really don't see how they can stop it. They might hold it off for a while... but it's coming.

and then there's Texas' coast too to think about.

VikingMan 06-03-2010 09:11 AM

Newsflash for the slow people: Palin is backed by the same exact elites that Obama is backed by. They have all been groomed for these positions. They are puppets. Got it? Good.:thumbsup

Amputate Your Head 06-03-2010 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ******* (Post 17205609)
Newsflash for the idiots: Palin is backed by the same exact elites that Obama is backed by. They have all been groomed for these positions. They are puppets. Got it? Good.:thumbsup

Does that mean they no longer are allowed to use the brain they were born with?

quiet 06-03-2010 09:12 AM

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dyna mo 06-03-2010 09:13 AM

i have a very hard time getting on board with the *game changed forever* mentality.

fact is, this is a blip on mother nature's radar, she'll survive just fine.

humans, well, we are still continuing to dig our own grave as we stare slack jawed at the oil spill.

Amputate Your Head 06-03-2010 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17205617)
i have a very hard time getting on board with the *game changed forever* mentality.

fact is, this is a blip on mother nature's radar, she'll survive just fine.

humans, well, we are still continuing to dig our own grave as we stare slack jawed at the oil spill.

Yeah, I was thinking societal changes more than large scale geological ones.

Amputate Your Head 06-03-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by quiet (Post 17205616)
hey amp, if you are on facebook add me

Emailed you bro... not on Facebook. :(

borked 06-03-2010 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17205551)
Once the hurricanes start coming in, all bets are off. What will happen to the rest of the Caribbean? Cuba, Jamaica, Cancun,.... many, many islands..... Makes me fucking sick. :disgust

Well, the hurricanes could be the saviour, from what I've read. If a hurricane comes in from the east, it will whip all the oil out into the gulf and by the time it arrives in the Carib, it will be enough dispersed to allow Mother Nature to degrade the oil biologically.

If one comes in from the south or west, then you guys are gonna get it bad as the stuff that's already floating near you will get washed further inland by the storm surges....


edit -
source for the theory behind that
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_...a/10210117.stm

Amputate Your Head 06-03-2010 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by borked (Post 17205643)
Well, the hurricanes could be the saviour, from what I've read. If a hurricane comes in from the east, it will whip all the oil out into the gulf and by the time it arrives in the Carib, it will be enough dispersed to allow Mother Nature to degrade the oil biologically.

If one comes in from the south or west, then you guys are gonna get it bad as the stuff that's already floating near you will get washed further inland by the storm surges....


edit -
source for the theory behind that
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_...a/10210117.stm

Don't most of them push on over land down there? I'm envisioning the city of New Orleans coated in oil.

crockett 06-03-2010 09:41 AM

I think Republicans will be re-thinking using the catch line.. "drill baby drill" in the near future.

Let us remember that off shore drilling off Florida's coast has been pushed like crazy by many Republicans and Florida residents have been fighting against it for over 10 years.

Too bad other states didn't do the same or we wouldn't have this mess. BTW you think it's only Florida and the southern US at risk, but if that oil gets into the Atlantic it's the entire eastern cost of the US as well as many more countries at risk.

borked 06-03-2010 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17205656)
Don't most of them push on over land down there? I'm envisioning the city of New Orleans coated in oil.

Yeah, but the point is if it comes in from the east, with a hurricane's anticlockwise winds, the oil will get mixed more southerly before returning north, in which cas the oil will be well-dispersed in the sea (measured in parts per million, rather than globs).
Hey, I've no idea, but what I read sounded logical and had the backing of science buffs...

However, if the first one comes in from the west, all bets are off cos all that shit lurking just offshore is gonna hit the coast with a big storm surge and not have time to disperse.

Amputate Your Head 06-03-2010 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 17205561)
i cant even begin to describe how its already affected our area man. beaches I played on growing up, covered in oil, wetlands I grew up fishing in, covered in oil. disperants already affecting food local people getting sick, tons of my friends and family havent worked since it happened... its a nightmare. volunteers under gag orders cant even discuss the effects the oil and disperants are having on them. Just like in 9/11 clean up crews and rescue workers,...

I have some family down there that have lived in the bayous for many generations.. most of them only speak thick cajun. No idea what they're going to do now.

Fletch XXX 06-03-2010 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17205721)
I have some family down there that have lived in the bayous for many generations.. most of them only speak thick cajun. No idea what they're going to do now.

we may be distant relatives homie, my family has lived in Southest Louisiana for 300 years, and my grandfather spoke it, I dont but its way of life down here. family has worked the waters here for hundreds of years and its been way of life for all of us growing up.

cwd 06-03-2010 10:01 AM

I think the big question is, will this change the way people live, because the only way we stop off shore drilling is if people start to change their way of life...and as horrific as this is, I just don't see it happening.

Amputate Your Head 06-03-2010 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwd (Post 17205743)
I think the big question is, will this change the way people live, because the only way we stop off shore drilling is if people start to change their way of life...and as horrific as this is, I just don't see it happening.

Hard to say.... but I think the 'horror' of this is only beginning. By the time this is carved in the history books, things may be very very different.

_Richard_ 06-03-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 17205569)
Saw a report yesterday where they found a beached dolphin with oil coming out of its mouth. Almost threw up thinking about it. Shit is fucked up.

:disgust:disgust:disgust

u still have the link?

eroticsexxx 06-03-2010 10:43 AM

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._7557667_n.jpg

cwd 06-03-2010 10:44 AM

this looks like....what is the word....um...FUUUUCCKKKKKK



http://www2.ucar.edu/news/ocean-curr...atlantic-coast

Amputate Your Head 06-03-2010 10:46 AM

Now the 'experts' are speculating this oil could be pumping out until Christmas.
If that happens... there is no telling what kind of Hell it's going to look like down there.

They (BP and the clean up / capping efforts) can't work out there during storms. So if a storm starts brewing, they will pull everyone in, and we just get to sit and watch the destruction continue.

Caligari 06-03-2010 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17205865)
:disgust:disgust:disgust

u still have the link?

not the exact link but heres another story they are talking about it-
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-..._b_597841.html

"When we found this dolphin it was filled with oil. Oil was just pouring out of it. It was the saddest darn thing to look at," said a BP contract worker who took the Daily News on a surreptitious tour of the wildlife disaster unfolding in Louisiana.

bronco67 06-03-2010 11:11 AM

Check the live feed. Looks like the cap is on now.

Amputate Your Head 06-03-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 17206016)
Check the live feed. Looks like the cap is on now.

I'm watching, but they're still messing around with that blade.... oil still gushing... are they still trying to cut something?

bronco67 06-03-2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17206029)
I'm watching, but they're still messing around with that blade.... oil still gushing... are they still trying to cut something?

I believe they're fixing up the edges to get a better seal. I'd guess that new piece will allow a new pipe to the surface.

jimmy-3-way 06-03-2010 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17205551)
What happens when this oil is dragged by the currents and storms down through the Florida Keys and takes out the Miami beaches? Florida is a key election state. This could change everything. If florida's beaches are fouled for generations, Florida's tourism goes with it and Florida all but dies.

Ha! Hahahahahaha!

We're Americans! Nobody cares. You wanna make an omlette you have to kill a few pelicans. If you want to be a pussy whack-job tree hugger go to Europe and buy a tiny car.

Nobody gives a flying fuck, man. Have you been to LA? Houston? Phoenix? THE AIR IS BROWN. The other day I saw a guy driving a diesel duallie and he'd chipped the shit out of it so it was just dumping soot out of the stacks.

The best part? He'd painted the semi-style exhaust stacks behind his cab to look like giant cigarettes!!!

Last week when the first real heat hit I walked by a Ford Excursion in the parking lot of a grocery store. The guy had left it running with no one in it, so he could run the AC while he shopped!

Fuck you earth! You're our bitch! Take it!

Amputate Your Head 06-03-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 17206079)
Ha! Hahahahahaha!

We're Americans! Nobody cares. You wanna make an omlette you have to kill a few pelicans. If you want to be a pussy whack-job tree hugger go to Europe and buy a tiny car.

Nobody gives a flying fuck, man. Have you been to LA? Houston? Phoenix? THE AIR IS BROWN. The other day I saw a guy driving a diesel duallie and he'd chipped the shit out of it so it was just dumping soot out of the stacks.

The best part? He'd painted the semi-style exhaust stacks behind his cab to look like giant cigarettes!!!

Last week when the first real heat hit I walked by a Ford Excursion in the parking lot of a grocery store. The guy had left it running with no one in it, so he could run the AC while he shopped!

Fuck you earth! You're our bitch! Take it!

So,... what? Are you suggesting that those of us that give a shit should stop and adopt the 'Fuck The Earth' mentality? Try a little experiment... go to Kragen, buy a few gallons of oil and drink it. Tell me how it tastes. Because that's what you're going to get now in place of gulf region seafood.

If giving a shit about the poisoning of the Gulf makes me a 'pussy whack-job tree hugger', then okay.... that's what I am. I can accept that. What shall we call the people with absurd, soot-pumping exhaust stacks painted like cigarettes? 'The Cool Guy"?

How about: "Too stupid to live".

cherrylula 06-03-2010 11:40 AM

above average temperatures in the gulf means “active to extremely active” hurricane season this year.

get ready for some real excitement. :Oh crap

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories...neoutlook.html

Coup 06-03-2010 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 17206079)
Ha! Hahahahahaha!

We're Americans! Nobody cares. You wanna make an omlette you have to kill a few pelicans. If you want to be a pussy whack-job tree hugger go to Europe and buy a tiny car.

Nobody gives a flying fuck, man. Have you been to LA? Houston? Phoenix? THE AIR IS BROWN. The other day I saw a guy driving a diesel duallie and he'd chipped the shit out of it so it was just dumping soot out of the stacks.

The best part? He'd painted the semi-style exhaust stacks behind his cab to look like giant cigarettes!!!

Last week when the first real heat hit I walked by a Ford Excursion in the parking lot of a grocery store. The guy had left it running with no one in it, so he could run the AC while he shopped!

Fuck you earth! You're our bitch! Take it!

six months from now we will all be up in arms about the latest missing white woman. or the latest dumb thing celebrity x did. nothing is going to change lol.


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