Preferably where I don't have to signup for accounts, manage multiple passwords and login to view your samples so I can give you money. Have a " guest webmaster" account handy that I can use if necessary.
If you reply, let me know if you can do exclusive stuff too and if you can shoot fresh models ( not fresh sets of the same 5 models ), on a regular basis. Include pricing.
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Originally posted by AaronM
Yeah...OK.
Talk to some of the models who have worked for them then get back to me.
I know they pay shitty if that's what you mean. But these chicks are getting famous in a way that's considered glamorous within a certain set of people. Shit man, Courtney love was talking about suicide girls on MTV. They've been in half the alt music newsrags. Not to mention WIRED. That's launchpad potential.
I know they pay shitty if that's what you mean. But these chicks are getting famous in a way that's considered glamorous within a certain set of people. Shit man, Courtney love was talking about suicide girls on MTV. They've been in half the alt music newsrags. Not to mention WIRED. That's launchpad potential.
I have seen the press but I totally think it is wrong to do what they are doing. Not sure how much you know about their operation but it sucks.
I have never even been to their site so I can only comment on the way they conduct business in Portland.
Originally posted by AaronM I have seen the press but I totally think it is wrong to do what they are doing. Not sure how much you know about their operation but it sucks.
I have never even been to their site so I can only comment on the way they conduct business in Portland.
There is not a speckle of doubt in my mind that you've got more information about what goes on with suicidegirls models than I do.
I get my all information from the site itself, model websites, and occasionally from talking to the people who run it (just spooky actually).
My impression is that they've estranged themselves from the rest of the adult web intentionally. It's also clear that they do well monetarily but give the people that work for them a different story. They have the allure of media attention and I've heard there's a ridiculously long list of girls trying to sign on, most of whom get rejected. Not to mention the exciting job market in Portland.
Originally posted by fnet
I've heard there's a ridiculously long list of girls trying to sign on, most of whom get rejected.
*cough*BULLSHIT*cough*
I am done discussing this at this point. People that do what they do make it difficult for professionals like Unseen and myself to shoot in Portland.
Now we have some assholes from Idaho who like to fly in about once a month and fuck a bunch of the girls while filling their heads with empty promises. Then there is Gary who drives up from Eugene and promisis the girls one thing then tries to get them to have sex with him or they only get half of what he promissed.
Portland is full of fuckers who are screwing it up for the rest of us.
unseenworld photographs girls from the portland area.
If I weren't traveling (currently in Vegas), I'd have been on top of this sooner. I have quite a few alternatives over on http://www.unseenworld.com, including some girls who've also worked for SG.
If you want to talk about it, my ICQ is 48201505, but since I'm on the road, I'm not in front of my computer every moment of the day and ICQ is switched on less than usual. My e-mail is [email protected] and if you e-mail me your phone number, I'd be happy to phone you.
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I am done discussing this at this point. People that do what they do make it difficult for professionals like Unseen and myself to shoot in Portland.
Now we have some assholes from Idaho who like to fly in about once a month and fuck a bunch of the girls while filling their heads with empty promises. Then there is Gary who drives up from Eugene and promisis the girls one thing then tries to get them to have sex with him or they only get half of what he promissed.
Portland is full of fuckers who are screwing it up for the rest of us.
Yes, and I'm about ready to get out the ole tire iron and baseball bat. The end result is that more and more these assholes lure the girls in with false promises, or pull the old bait-and-switch (oh, you want to make the money in the ad? for that you'll have to blow me), and then the girls either bail on the industry entirely or walk around totally paranoid and distrustful of the guys who don't abuse them.
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Yes, and I'm about ready to get out the ole tire iron and baseball bat. The end result is that more and more these assholes lure the girls in with false promises, or pull the old bait-and-switch (oh, you want to make the money in the ad? for that you'll have to blow me), and then the girls either bail on the industry entirely or walk around totally paranoid and distrustful of the guys who don't abuse them.
That reminds me... Two of the girls are talking about going after him legally for fraud and soliciting them.
Aaron any chance you'll start shooting the type of content in the *original* post of this thread ? If so could you please hit me up on icq or by email about it? thanks
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That reminds me... Two of the girls are talking about going after him legally for fraud and soliciting them.
That works for me!
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gotta love suicide girls... the girls get paid jack shit... i was amazed when i found out... i would never think to offer what they pay their models without getting laughed at but these girls take the money... its amazing
Oh please... SG can't be doing much more than what other porn sites/content places have done.
I used to schedule talent, and there was always a huge rainbow in the sky and talk of how much fun it was, and all the perks of the job. Yeah right. Until the girl stops making you money, then her ass is to the curb.
If any of you people shooting girls were to tell every single one of them the reality of what they are about to do, you would seriously have problems.
I know a few girls who have been involved with the SG thing. I have yet to hear a complaint but from what I have seen, the girls pose and participate because they like the site and they like the community thing, not for the few bucks they get. Its rather brilliant imo.
when i saw cumkaraoke the first time, i noticed the similarities in the designs. But it's not that a complete clone site, similar though. But i would bet that whoever designed cumkaraoke.com definitely was very familiar with the design of suicidegirls.com.
there was an article in Wired about a year ago about SuicideGirls, the girl who owns it definitely doesn't want to be associated with porn sites and she tried very hard, too hard in my opinion, to get the idea across that she wasn't making much money and it's not about the money. Admit it honey, you're a capitalist pig using those girls just like everybody else. You wanna be some grunged out struggling artiste then don't charge any membership, don't sell your t-shirts and merchandise like. I'm sure a Suicide Girls cartoon show, comic book and movie is in the works.
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Originally posted by Brujah what is "jack shit" ? how little would that be ?
don't they also chat with members, and write in journals online that they update for the site ?
What are you trying to say? That they are left with no other options?
That a homeless person has no choice but to eat from a dumpster?
No, what I am saying is that a homeless person does have other choices but they often choose to dine in the dumpster. Why? Who the hell knows but these girls often make the wrong choice too. Some of them are homeless or at least very broke. Most shooters around here do not have many options for them so they take the handouts that they are given.
It's sad. I read an artical in the Portland Tribune a while ago where they were bragging about making 10's of thousands off of the site. If you are making that much then you should at least pay the going rate for the market you are in. The models in this business are underpaid as is.
what you have to realize, is its not just that the girls are forced to write journals, and the ones who do for the most part are not faking them. A lot of the girls who pose do it cause they enjoy it, and yet they don't really want to become porn stars, or traditional internet talent.
Suicide Girls always has booths at concerts, and outdoor festivals. They get the girls to show up and do all sorts of promotions. If it was just a straight up porn site, pink and all, they could not get away with that.
I know people who meet up and network/socialize with others through SG. I even have 20 year old sister (who did not pose fyi) who joined SG, and knows a bunch of the chicks who post over there. Had it been a frickin porn site, she would not have joined.
They have created an internet environment where the girls feel comfortable and therefore the site flourishes. Its NOT a traditional porn site.
If SG started pimping out their girls and content more, and became a traditional porn site, it would lose its edge in a heartbeat.
Originally posted by cherrylula what you have to realize, is its not just that the girls are forced to write journals, and the ones who do for the most part are not faking them. A lot of the girls who pose do it cause they enjoy it, and yet they don't really want to become porn stars, or traditional internet talent.
Suicide Girls always has booths at concerts, and outdoor festivals. They get the girls to show up and do all sorts of promotions. If it was just a straight up porn site, pink and all, they could not get away with that.
I know people who meet up and network/socialize with others through SG. I even have 20 year old sister (who did not pose fyi) who joined SG, and knows a bunch of the chicks who post over there. Had it been a frickin porn site, she would not have joined.
They have created an internet environment where the girls feel comfortable and therefore the site flourishes. Its NOT a traditional porn site.
If SG started pimping out their girls and content more, and became a traditional porn site, it would lose its edge in a heartbeat.
They can call it whatever they want If it helps them sleep better then so be it.
No, what I am saying is that a homeless person does have other choices but they often choose to dine in the dumpster. Why? Who the hell knows but these girls often make the wrong choice too. Some of them are homeless or at least very broke. Most shooters around here do not have many options for them so they take the handouts that they are given.
It's sad. I read an artical in the Portland Tribune a while ago where they were bragging about making 10's of thousands off of the site. If you are making that much then you should at least pay the going rate for the market you are in. The models in this business are underpaid as is.
And speaking as a girl here, I would pose for SG before I'd pose for any sort of internet content provider. You guys push the pictures all over the net, yeah I would hope you pay your girls more than SG does!
Yeah they don't pay a whole lot. But they also don't sell the content, nor is it anything close to hardcore.
SG is making money because of all the hard work they have put into the site. NOT because they save a few bucks on what they pay their talent. Get a clue.
And since when do nude models get profit sharing from the sites they pose for?
And speaking as a girl here, I would pose for SG before I'd pose for any sort of internet content provider. You guys push the pictures all over the net, yeah I would hope you pay your girls more than SG does!
Yeah they don't pay a whole lot. But they also don't sell the content, nor is it anything close to hardcore.
SG is making money because of all the hard work they have put into the site. NOT because they save a few bucks on what they pay their talent. Get a clue.
Now you are going to insult me?
I have a clue. I have seen this shit first hand from models who have been through it. I was done discusing this issue but you seem to want me to continue.
Gee, I am sorry that I respect the girls who model for me. My bad.
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