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DeadFidel 09-06-2009 08:18 AM

Does the Magicjack work?
 
$3.33 a month...this is the kind of shit that seems 2 b 2 good 2 b 4 real. ...and it's a fucking 1/2 infomercial. The over sell is too middle American. The target is wrong.

docputer 09-06-2009 08:21 AM

I have one and it works fine. I got a magicjack and bought a one year plan, then I just renewed for 5 years.

Twig 09-06-2009 08:23 AM

yes...............

BVF 09-06-2009 08:25 AM

It works....Mine is plugged into the laptop right now.

fatfoo 09-06-2009 08:25 AM

Never heard of it. Never tried it.

dallasnovelty 09-06-2009 08:28 AM

i know quite a few people who have switched and seem to like it just fine with no difference in service.

theking 09-06-2009 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DeadFidel (Post 16284479)
$3.33 a month...this is the kind of shit that seems 2 b 2 good 2 b 4 real. ...and it's a fucking 1/2 infomercial. The over sell is too middle American. The target is wrong.

Works fine for me.

fris 09-06-2009 08:31 AM

i use skype for long distance

Blackamooka 09-06-2009 08:32 AM

My mom has one and it doesn't even work outside of her office, but I think it has something to do with the construction of her house (thick concrete walls).

I use Vonage and it works perfectly.

SmokeyTheBear 09-06-2009 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackamooka (Post 16284520)
My mom has one and it doesn't even work outside of her office, but I think it has something to do with the construction of her house (thick concrete walls).

I use Vonage and it works perfectly.

sorry had to chuckle at that.. the magicjack uses the internet, so as long as the internet works its fine..


Heres my overall opinion of the magicjack..

The quality is a little better than a cell phone , not as good as a traditrional landline.

Well worth the money. ( free long distance )

What you get is a phone jack that plugs into any usb port, then you plug any regular phone into it.. The computer must be on to use it ( and connected to the web )

I use mine on my laptop, often times when my cell phone has no reception i can find a free wireless connection to use the magicjack on..

stickyfingerz 09-06-2009 08:45 AM

The whole company is interesting. I had dinner with the Vice President (also the top or second to the top stockholder). And he gave me the full story on how everything came about. One of their main datacenters is here in Nashville actually.

Gerco 09-06-2009 09:16 AM

Have one and it works great...

dirtysouth 09-06-2009 10:08 AM

Love mine!

Blackamooka 09-06-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 16284542)
sorry had to chuckle at that.. the magicjack uses the internet, so as long as the internet works its fine..

I know how it works, thanks. Still doesn't change the fact that hers loses signal outside of her office. Was never an issue before she switched over to Magic Jack. It has nothing to do with the fact that it's on the internet. It has to do with the strength of the source.

LiveDose 09-06-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackamooka (Post 16284520)
My mom has one and it doesn't even work outside of her office, but I think it has something to do with the construction of her house (thick concrete walls).

I use Vonage and it works perfectly.



Sorry I had to laugh too...

qxm 09-06-2009 10:24 AM

the only catch is that you need to keep your host PC on all the time... if you don't want to miss a call that is ...... otherwise I hear it works OK...

dunno if u can connect it to a USB hub and make it work without having the PC on .... guess I'll have to do some googling about that...

Blackamooka 09-06-2009 10:30 AM

And, also for the "It works over the internet" crowd. That's a load of crap, and exactly why I ended up having to get Vonage. Originally, I wanted to get Comcast phone service installed in my old house. When the tech came by, they tested the signal strength on my router and said that it was impossible to setup a phone line downstairs while the modem was upstairs because the signal was too weak. I would have had to set up my router downstairs, which would have been a major pain in the ass. Vonage's system works a little bit differently, and so does Magic Jack. It's not just a matter of having a signal because it's on the internet. You need a signal with strength.

B2BwithJoeD 09-06-2009 10:32 AM

Europeans Billing Europe!
 
Seems to be catching on - I think I even saw Walmart pushing it - I do a Google search now for feedback/complaints on any purchase I am contemplating - you learn a lot...and then still make your own more qualified decision...

stickyfingerz 09-06-2009 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackamooka (Post 16284889)
And, also for the "It works over the internet" crowd. That's a load of crap, and exactly why I ended up having to get Vonage. Originally, I wanted to get Comcast phone service installed in my old house. When the tech came by, they tested the signal strength on my router and said that it was impossible to setup a phone line downstairs while the modem was upstairs because the signal was too weak. I would have had to set up my router downstairs, which would have been a major pain in the ass. Vonage's system works a little bit differently, and so does Magic Jack. It's not just a matter of having a signal because it's on the internet. You need a signal with strength.

Something incredibly wrong with your comcast tech. The modem has the phoneline on it. Your phone doesn't go through the router at all. On top of that they can hook the phone line coming out of the router to your existing phone lines in your house and you can plug your phone into any of those jacks. Either you or the tech are really confused, or... no idea. You both just seem confused. lol

Blackamooka 09-06-2009 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16284910)
Something incredibly wrong with your comcast tech. The modem has the phoneline on it. Your phone doesn't go through the router at all. On top of that they can hook the phone line coming out of the router to your existing phone lines in your house and you can plug your phone into any of those jacks. Either you or the tech are really confused, or... no idea. You both just seem confused. lol

Depending on where you are, Comcast uses different routers, and different systems. In Washington, the routers they use require the phone line to be plugged directly into the router. I'm now in Colorado where they don't.

The point is, you can still have a working phone line hooked up to the internet and have a weak signal. Anyone that claims that's not true has no idea what they are talking about. I ran cable and installed CAT5 cable and phone lines for 5 years for an ISP, and we ran into issues like this all the time.

dyna mo 09-06-2009 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackamooka (Post 16284929)
Depending on where you are, Comcast uses different routers, and different systems. In Washington, the routers they use require the phone line to be plugged directly into the router. I'm now in Colorado where they don't.

The point is, you can still have a working phone line hooked up to the internet and have a weak signal. Anyone that claims that's not true has no idea what they are talking about. I ran cable and installed CAT5 cable and phone lines for 5 years for an ISP, and we ran into issues like this all the time.

please do not argue with this guy. he had dinner with THE vp and largest/2nd largest stockholder of the co. n/m the fact magicjack is a wholly-owned subsidiary of ymax.

Blackamooka 09-06-2009 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16284945)
please do not argue with this guy. he had dinner with THE vp and largest/2nd largest stockholder of the co. n/m the fact magicjack is a wholly-owned subsidiary of ymax.

lol, why are you quoting me? I never said that. Or were you quoting me to tell me not to argue with him?

fris 09-06-2009 11:09 AM

whats the difference between skype and magic jack

Blackamooka 09-06-2009 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 16285007)
whats the difference between skype and magic jack

Skype doesn't need a phone line. Just a mic.

eroticsexxx 09-06-2009 11:34 AM

For those who obviously do not know, the magicjack device relies exclusively on internet connectivity speeds and has nothing to do with phone signal "strength".

The technology is called VoIP and if you have an internet connection that will allow you to watch a youtube video without jitter, then you can use MagicJack or Vonage flawlessly.

Now if Blackamooka was talking about a bad telephone line coming into his ma's house that prevented her dsl modem from giving fast enough internet connectivity to keep up the VoIP connection, that's a different story altogether. But such a problem would have also affected Vonage.

Again, if you have internet speeds that are greater than 512kbps (up and down), magicjack will work perfectly. Use Speedtest.net if you are not sure.

And I'm a Magicjack user as well...

eroticsexxx 09-06-2009 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 16285007)
whats the difference between skype and magic jack

Magicjack is a little device that plugs into the USB port of any computer that is connected to the internet. Simply plug a regular phone into the device and you can call normally.

Skype uses a software interface to make calls through your soundcard, but they also have a wifi phone that allows you roam within a wifi network and place calls when you're away from your pc.

Blackamooka 09-06-2009 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by eroticsexxx (Post 16285100)
Now if Blackamooka was talking about a bad telephone line coming into his ma's house that prevented her dsl modem from giving fast enough internet connectivity to keep up the VoIP connection, that's a different story altogether. But such a problem would have also affected Vonage.

hmmm, that's funny since I tested it with Vonage and it didn't have the same issue, and since they have a much higher down/up speed than 512kbps. But, I give up since I have no interest in giving you guys a crash course in how twisted pair frequency response works. You're absolutely right, magic Jack plugs in and magically carries data across 1,000's of miles, completely impervious to interference and data loss. :thumbsup

eroticsexxx 09-06-2009 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackamooka (Post 16285122)
magic Jack plugs in and magically carries data across 1,000's of miles, completely impervious to interference and data loss. :thumbsup

Yes indeed it does, because it uses the internet. In the same way how you can watch a youtube video "across 1,000's of miles, completely impervious to interference and data loss" is the same way that the magicjack works.

I'm beginning to doubt if you have ever seen a magicjack or whether you actually knew how to install it.

1. Plug the little device into the pc
2. Plug any regular phone into the magicjack
3. The Magicjack negotiates the connection to the company's servers using VoIP over the INTERNET (which means that if you can browse the web, the negotiation between Magicjack and their home servers is intact).
4. Again, no internet=no magicjack.

You're confusing mainstream telephony with VoIP. Magicjack uses the latter.

Blackamooka 09-06-2009 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by eroticsexxx (Post 16285171)
Yes indeed it does, because it uses the internet. In the same way how you can watch a youtube video "across 1,000's of miles, completely impervious to interference and data loss" is the same way that the magicjack works.

I'm beginning to doubt if you have ever seen a magicjack or whether you actually knew how to install it.

1. Plug the little device into the pc
2. Plug any regular phone into the magicjack
3. The Magicjack negotiates the connection to the company's servers using VoIP over the INTERNET (which means that if you can browse the web, the negotiation between Magicjack and their home servers is intact).
4. Again, no internet=no magicjack.

You're confusing mainstream telephony with VoIP. Magicjack uses the latter.

Are you fucking kidding me?

Google is your friend. Here, let me help you.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=magic+jack+strength+issues

Signal strength from your internet connection does indeed have an impact on Magic Jack's service. Feel free to sift through the thousands of complaints.

Does this mean your Magic Jack won't work just fine? No. But it can and does. As I said before. Vonage is not as susceptible to these issues. Which is why I use them instead.

Buy a fucking Magic Jack. I could care less. But, as always, you get what you pay for.

stickyfingerz 09-06-2009 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16284945)
please do not argue with this guy. he had dinner with THE vp and largest/2nd largest stockholder of the co. n/m the fact magicjack is a wholly-owned subsidiary of ymax.

You know nothing of what you are talking about. lol

Ymax is owned by the inventor Dan Borislow. His partner getting this whole thing off the ground was his VP Donald who I met and had dinner with, and who is also the second or maybe 3rd now largest stock holder. Idiot. Before that Dan and Donald pushed phone card services. I sat and got the full story and background of the company. They work mainly out of Atlanta but also have a large data center here in Nashville so he often is here in town. Think the phone card company was tel save or something like that. You would know them by names like 10-10-220 They used to be pretty popular before cell phones and pre paid cell phones were out there more.

But hell you are Dyna who? lmao

How they portray the ownership of the company in a public light may be just a smidge different. :winkwink:

dyna mo 09-06-2009 12:13 PM

ahh, so don burns is a VP now?

gotcha.

i guess he was demoted from CEO and Chairman of the Board.

stickyfingerz 09-06-2009 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackamooka (Post 16285122)
hmmm, that's funny since I tested it with Vonage and it didn't have the same issue, and since they have a much higher down/up speed than 512kbps. But, I give up since I have no interest in giving you guys a crash course in how twisted pair frequency response works. You're absolutely right, magic Jack plugs in and magically carries data across 1,000's of miles, completely impervious to interference and data loss. :thumbsup

You appear to really be confused. Im just curious how your signal strength from upstairs to downstairs changes depending on where you put your modem? The only thing that would come into play there is if there were too many spliters or devices hooked up to your coax cable coming from the pole. I've used voip phones since 2006 or so. Had comcast (originally @home when I first got it) since 2000. Yet nothing you have said makes sense, and how would you run a phone through your router? Did they add phone jacks into routers now? The most common modem / phone setup for comcast right now is the Arris modem. I currently have an Arris modem sitting here for just my phone, and a new motorola sb6120 docsis 3.0 modem for my internet so I get my 50/10 service on a separate coax line I had them run in. Please explain how signal strength made it impossible for you to have your phoneline upstairs or downstairs or whatever it was you were trying to say.

Sounds like you got some green tech that knew nothing of what he spoke. Kind of like the one I had when I called into activate this new modem and he told me I would have to connect the two modems together by using an ethernet cord. LOL I told him he was an idiot and to connect me with someone that had a clue of what they were talking about. lol 6 minutes later I had it activated.


Reminds me of the At&T guy that came around a few weeks ago trying to sell me on their fiber service. Telling me that I couldn't be getting the speeds comcast told me I would get, and that it was "burst" only, even though this service is not burst its a constant speed down and up. Then the at and t guy tells me they have 18 down, and would not no matter what tell me the rated upload speed, and I found out they are instructed not to discuss upload speeds. lol I ended up telling the guy to fuck off and get out of my driveway. lol

eroticsexxx 09-06-2009 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackamooka (Post 16285208)
Are you fucking kidding me?

Google is your friend. Here, let me help you.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=magic+jack+strength+issues

Signal strength from your internet connection does indeed have an impact on Magic Jack's service. Feel free to sift through the thousands of complaints.

Does this mean your Magic Jack won't work just fine? No. But it can and does. As I said before. Vonage is not as susceptible to these issues. Which is why I use them instead.

Buy a fucking Magic Jack. I could care less. But, as always, you get what you pay for.

You're a classic case of knowing just enough to think that you know what you're talking about. Didn't I just tell you that if your internet connection is crappy that neither magicjack nor vonage will work? That comcast guy got you completely confused.

The very first link in that google results page says exactly what I did. "Like any other VoIP service, call quality depends on your internet connection".

You talk about "signal strength" and start spouting gibberish about twisted pair when that clearly points to a problem with the internet connection itself, NOT the magicjack.

Again, if your internet connection has a problem from the break, magicjack and any other VoIP tech like Vonage, Net2phone, 8x8 (except for Skype as they use P2P tech to enhance their VoIP) will have a problem.

Agent 488 09-06-2009 12:14 PM

yeah man trippy i must be dreaming can't be real.

stickyfingerz 09-06-2009 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16285255)
ahh, so don burns is a VP now?

gotcha.

i guess he was demoted from CEO and Chairman of the Board.

It was a year ago I had dinner with him so excuse me if I got some of the details a bit off. Didn't know there was a magic jack expert on these forums such as you. lmao.

whats your number Ill give you a call using a 10 10 220 card to discuss it :1orglaugh

Blackamooka 09-06-2009 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by eroticsexxx (Post 16285260)
Again, if your internet connection has a problem from the break, magicjack and any other VoIP tech like Vonage, Net2phone, 8x8 (except for Skype as they use P2P tech to enhance their VoIP) will have a problem.

Hey dipshit...Can you fucking read??? I said OVER and OVER that it was a problem with the internet connection. The signal at my moms house isn't strong enough and loses signal when moving out of the office. I also said that the reason I chose Vonage over not only Magic Jack, but Comcast phone service was because Vonage is not as susceptible to these issues. My Vonage works just fine on connections that Magic Jack and Comcast phone would not, so you're fucking retarded and have no idea what you're talking about because I have experience with all three. Let me say it again..... Magic Jack has signal issues with crappy connections where Vonage does not. Pick up your fucking Magic Jack and call someone who can read so they can explain it to you jackass.

stickyfingerz 09-06-2009 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackamooka (Post 16285278)
Hey dipshit...Can you fucking read??? I said OVER and OVER that it was a problem with the internet connection. The signal at my moms house isn't strong enough and loses packets when moving out of the office. I also said that the reason I chose Vonage over not only Magic Jack and Comcast phone service was because Vonage is not as susceptible to these issues. My Vonage works just fine on connections that Magic Jack and Comcast phone would not, so you're fucking retarded and have no idea what you're talking about because I have experience with all three. Let me say it again..... Magic Jack has signal issues with crappy connections where Vonage does not. Pick up your fucking Magic Jack and call someone who can read so they can explain it to you jackass.

Comcast would be the best quality as its going directly through them for the actual phone connection and stays on their backbones to provide the service. Not sure how Vonage would supply a better "signal" than your actual isp.

Blackamooka 09-06-2009 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16285300)
Comcast would be the best quality as its going directly through them for the actual phone connection and stays on their backbones to provide the service. Not sure how Vonage would supply a better "signal" than your actual isp.

lol....I just got done telling you that Comcast wouldn't even install the phone line on it because it didn't have a strong enough signal. Is it really that difficult to believe that different companies using different equipment/protocols would not have a different quality of service? You guys act like VOIP is some perfectly standardized technology. It's not.

Anyways, I'm done. You get what you pay for, that's all I'm gonna say.

eroticsexxx 09-06-2009 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackamooka (Post 16285278)
Hey dipshit...Can you fucking read??? I said OVER and OVER that it was a problem with the internet connection. The signal at my moms house isn't strong enough and loses signal when moving out of the office. I also said that the reason I chose Vonage over not only Magic Jack and Comcast phone service was because Vonage is not as susceptible to these issues. My Vonage works just fine on connections that Magic Jack and Comcast phone would not, so you're fucking retarded and have no idea what you're talking about because I have experience with all three. Let me say it again..... Magic Jack has signal issues with crappy connections where Vonage does not. Pick up your fucking Magic Jack and call someone who can read so they can explain it to you jackass.

"The signal isn't strong enough and loses signal when moving out of the office?"

Yeah, methinks you may need a few lessons in how to properly explain a technical issue and I still call BS on what you said because if you actually knew that you were experiencing packet loss with your internet connection you would/should have gotten Comcast to fix the problem.

Then, on top of the problem that you claim you were aware of, you would rather pay monthly what you would have paid once with MagicJack for the same service that would work just fine if your internet wasn't crappy?

Yeap. You have issues.

dyna mo 09-06-2009 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16285265)
It was a year ago


gotcha. thanks for clearing that up.

so a year ago 1 of the 2 original investors/founders of ymax, and also founder of telco communications was merely a VP of his own company.

good to know.

:upsidedow


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