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Ruby on Rails vs PHP?

09-04-2009, 10:12 AM

What are the pros and cons?

I hear RoR is awesome. However, you have few solid Ruby coders and developers in case you need something down the line.

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09-04-2009, 10:26 AM

Should be comparing Ruby vs PHP, or something like RoR vs. Symphony: Language vs language, or framework vs. framework.

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09-04-2009, 10:30 AM

Well, borked had referred this chap to me for some overflow work. However, he prefer to do everything in Ruby.

I have heard of Ruby, and heard good things about it. However, I have also heard it is hard to find good programmers for long term projects who write good code in Ruby. Where there are more people who know, and write, solid PHP code.

My main concern is using Ruby on a module based site and running into issues down the line where I can't find a Ruby coder timely, or dependable for changes and additions.

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09-04-2009, 11:04 AM

Ruby offers really no benefits to you, only headaches... there are may be some benefits for the programmer, but that's not really your problem... with Ruby you will probably pay a premium to get stuff developed and you will have to jump through hoops to make it happen...

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09-04-2009, 11:06 AM

php hands down. With so many people developing in php you cant go wrong.

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09-04-2009, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by woj

Ruby offers really no benefits to you, only headaches... there are may be some benefits for the programmer, but that's not really your problem... with Ruby you will probably pay a premium to get stuff developed and you will have to jump through hoops to make it happen...

Thanks. That is a good explanation.

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09-04-2009, 11:14 AM

There was a really good thread on this not too long ago. Sorry I'm not going to find it for you

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09-04-2009, 11:33 AM

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09-04-2009, 11:40 AM

woj was dead on... the benefits of RoR lay ONLY in the development... Better (read more traditional) OO support and the language construct differs quite a bit and allows for different ways to handle data manipulation. The RoR hype is spawned solely from developers...

It's slower to process server side, it's a HUGE pain in the ass to setup... PHP via Fast-cgi using nginx has been proven to be THE fastest setup you can get translating to less server costs on your end. Ruby does now have Passenger (mod_rails) so it's a bit easier to setup on Apache installations but I digress...

As woj stated you'll pay a premium for RoR developers because there are so few. This really comes into play if you're trying to get something done, even a simple change, and you can't find ANY...

PHP developers are a dime a dozen but good ones are VERY hard to find. However you're guaranteed to find someone to do cheap work to make a simple change so it's a much safer bet

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09-04-2009, 11:43 AM

I have a couple of guys that are excellent with it, but the availability is a little hard some times.
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09-04-2009, 12:11 PM

PHP > *

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09-04-2009, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by BestXXXPorn

woj was dead on... the benefits of RoR lay ONLY in the development... Better (read more traditional) OO support and the language construct differs quite a bit and allows for different ways to handle data manipulation. The RoR hype is spawned solely from developers...

It's slower to process server side, it's a HUGE pain in the ass to setup... PHP via Fast-cgi using nginx has been proven to be THE fastest setup you can get translating to less server costs on your end. Ruby does now have Passenger (mod_rails) so it's a bit easier to setup on Apache installations but I digress...

As woj stated you'll pay a premium for RoR developers because there are so few. This really comes into play if you're trying to get something done, even a simple change, and you can't find ANY...

PHP developers are a dime a dozen but good ones are VERY hard to find. However you're guaranteed to find someone to do cheap work to make a simple change so it's a much safer bet

I am not worried about 'cheap'. I am worried about being expandable.

So a year down the line something needs to be fixed, or a new module added on, I can have it done with ease. Not having to rebuild the entire script and site from scratch.

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09-04-2009, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by Barefootsies

What are the pros and cons?

I hear RoR is awesome. However, you have few solid Ruby coders and developers in case you need something down the line.

Discuss.

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09-04-2009, 12:22 PM

what i said, php hands down

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09-04-2009, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by grumpy

what i said, php hands down

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