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12-05-2002, 04:32 PM

O.K, This prick advertised here offering webmasters $1.00 per day for having his link http://www.freenetpresence.com/affiliates.htm Free Net Presence. Get Results Now. Any of you remember that? This guy is Steve icq 132157103 aka Mr Trafalgar Marketing.Well after 3.5 months,(didnt realize how time flies) I ICQ him and ask whats up?. He says it didnt work out take the link down. Fine whatever shit happens.Says he will send me my money he owed.I get a check for half the amount in US dollars, so about 80 bucks Canadian....fucking check bounced and get charged bank fees to boot...Now 80 bucks is 80 bucks but now the bank takes 110.00 bucks out to cover the fees etc.I know it isnt a huge amount but its principle man. I placed his link up and he owes me. I wanted to tell GFY as thats where i got his url from . Fucking Asshole Cocksucker ...had to say that cause I'm sending him this url ..

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12-05-2002, 04:40 PM

I figured that was a scam...
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12-05-2002, 04:59 PM

I was leary as well.. He said in a ICQ log he had over 1300 webmasters so.. I thought WTF?

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12-06-2002, 05:49 AM

http://www.trafalgarmarketing.com/
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Do NOT buy traffic from this prick. He ripped off over 1000 webmasters with his scams.

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12-06-2002, 08:47 AM

Haha. I myself and a few others I know got paid from it.

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12-06-2002, 08:50 AM

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Haha. I myself and a few others I know got paid from it. You yourself said you were paid but the bank charged you for cashing the check. Probably because it wasn't from the US.

Yes, he said he got paid, no, he didn't say he got charged for cashing the cheque. He got charged for cashing a NSF cheque, which means the person writing the cheque didn't have the money in their account to cover it. $80 CDN is around $50 US, if you are paying out affiliates and you don't have $50 in your chequeing account... WTF!
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12-06-2002, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by ZoiNk

Yes, he said he got paid, no, he didn't say he got charged for cashing the cheque. He got charged for cashing a NSF cheque, which means the person writing the cheque didn't have the money in their account to cover it. $80 CDN is around $50 US, if you are paying out affiliates and you don't have $50 in your chequeing account... WTF!
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Yah, I noticed that. I was reading the incomplete thread he posted else where. Saw the first half was the same that he did at the other board. Didn't realize he added more here.

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12-06-2002, 08:56 AM

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Haha. I myself and a few others I know got paid from it.

Are you the same Josh that moderates his board? Adult Webmaster Village or something along those lines...

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12-06-2002, 09:03 AM

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Are you the same Josh that moderates his board? Adult Webmaster Village or something along those lines...

Yah, but a few of the other people that were paid aren't and I didn't even know him at the time either. So don't try linking the two together.

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12-06-2002, 04:13 PM

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Are you the same Josh that moderates his board? Adult Webmaster Village or something along those lines...

hhmmm interesting how he got one of his moderators from his board to try and cover up for him. I know 3 webmasters that recieved bounced checks.He replied and even threatoned legal action against me. WTF is that bullshit?

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12-06-2002, 06:53 PM

cheater should be shot

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12-06-2002, 06:57 PM

Maybe it's a scam or maybe he just went bankrupt. If he's bankrupt, there IS no money. The mystery to me is why do these guys even bother to send a check that isn't covered? That incurs a cost on their end. If I were he, I'd rather send an e-mail or letter explaining the situation, say I'm working on it, and that a check will be forthcoming when/if there is cash behind it.

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12-06-2002, 07:35 PM

I Appologize To Steve aka Mr Trafalger Marketing for a misunderstanding on which I claimed he scammed me.I regret any harm which this might have caused as I was unaware of the banking process he stated.He handled this situation with the upmost professionalism and reissued another check.Please ignore all previous posts about any Scam or thread I posted about him

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12-06-2002, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by spunky1
I Appologize To Steve aka Mr Trafalger Marketing for a misunderstanding on which I claimed he scammed me.I regret any harm which this might have caused as I was unaware of the banking process he stated.He handled this situation with the upmost professionalism and reissued another check.Please ignore all previous posts about any Scam or thread I posted about him

ooo, id like to hear the full story behind this now
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12-06-2002, 08:35 PM

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Yah, but a few of the other people that were paid aren't and I didn't even know him at the time either. So don't try linking the two together.

Joshua go back to Steve and put your tounge further up his ass you little gopher. You are such a two faced, pole smoking, ass kissing, pissant. Steve sent you over here for damage control just like he sent you to me to beg me to leave him alone. I have had NUMEROUS icqs from guys Steve has ripped off. Many begging me to source his gay little board. That fucker is lucky I didn't take his shitty little site down. But nerds and losers like you Joshua have to hang out somewhere, don't you. Big shot moderater like you, hahahah, what a joke you are dude. The only reason I did not fuck with Steve is because Octav is the real owner of the board from what I hear, and I have no beef with him. Steve is a big mouthed loser who is going to get his clock cleaned one day. Keep playing the Steve cronie and you will gets yours too fucker.

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12-06-2002, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by spunky1
I was leary as well.. He said in a ICQ log he had over 1300 webmasters so.. I thought WTF?

Yeah and he got them all from spamming them on icq. This Steve fucker spent an hour on icq discussing ways to advertise his shit on my site and where I could put the text link. He went on and on about how much we could make, then after a hour this prick said he would pay me a dollar a day for a text link on my 350k a day TGP. WTF. even to a 10k a day TGP this is insulting. Then the fucker kept spamming me on icq everytime he made any kind "program change". Finally I hit "ignore User" on his icq. Then the fucker banned me from his nerd board because I would not reply to his icqs. Wanna go there again Joshua??? Go back to Steve and bend over you little punk.

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12-06-2002, 08:55 PM

Shit... Choker has a good reputation in this bizz and I did this appology because #1 Benefit of the doubt..shit happens..but I trust Choker and he is respected throughout and have known about him for 3+ years...Now I'm all confused...STELLA (artois)...wheres da papers?

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12-06-2002, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by spunky1
Shit... Choker has a good reputation in this bizz and I did this appology because #1 Benefit of the doubt..shit happens..but I trust Choker and he is respected throughout and have known about him for 3+ years...Now I'm all confused...STELLA (artois)...wheres da papers?

Let me guess, Joshua icqued you asking you to post that all was ok and promised you that Steve would not only pay what he owes you but would also pay the bank fees you incurred from his bad check? If so this is typical of Steve and Joshua. Steve thinks he is King Big Shit because the nerds at his board do not realize what a piece of garbage he really is. And Joshua is his punk ass little bitch.

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12-06-2002, 09:06 PM

No ..I dealt with Steve himself..first he was in Montreal.now in the U.K. .He sent a check ,went into collection and now have to pay 30 bucks to see if it will clear? Buddy in Virginia has to pay $35.00 bucks too cash a $50.00 buck check?..

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12-06-2002, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by spunky1
I Appologize To Steve aka Mr Trafalger Marketing for a misunderstanding on which I claimed he scammed me.I regret any harm which this might have caused as I was unaware of the banking process he stated.He handled this situation with the upmost professionalism and reissued another check.Please ignore all previous posts about any Scam or thread I posted about him

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12-09-2002, 12:33 PM

Steve from trafalgar marketing fucked me over too.

At some point he wanted a new site and asked me to do it. I said yes and did the site. Of course the idiot had to screw the HTML up and then get back to me telling me the site design sucked (which was after he told everyone how glad he was about it).

I did the site for a low price and thought he wouldn't cheat me cause why would anyone cheat someone for $350? Well guess again... Steve did that.

I asked for my money and he told me he would mail the check: 31-10.
I asked again 2 weeks later and HIS REPLY WAS:

I just said I sent you a check by registered mail, I don't control the postal service across 5000 miles , I hope you get it friday, if you get it monday tuesday or whenever I really don't care.

And 1 more bullshit out of you I will stop the fucking check

At this point I don't have a clue about how many times I've been asking for my $350 check. It's not about the amount. $350 ain't much but I DO NOT like getting cheated. No matter how big the check is.

I don't have the energy to put up a fight right now cause my mother is sick and my 20 year old sister-in-law has Anorexia and Bulimia at the same time and according to the doctors she'll probaly die soon, and scammers like Steve can really make an already bad day even worse.

So...

THANK YOU Steve for cheating me!!!
You're the biggest fucking idiot I've met in a very long time.

You act like a big player on your pathetic board but the truth is that you're nothing but a cheating fuck and there's plenty of people to back it up . When I was sitting at my mothers bed at the hospital all you had to say was "get this shit done" and I did that so you could get your design. After that you cheat me! Excellent attitude.

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12-09-2002, 01:16 PM

trafalgar marketing sent me a check for $250 for pop-up traffic I was sending them about 3 years ago and it bounced. If you are bouncing a $250 check you got some problems. I'd stay away from promoting this guys shit. Complete scammer and piece of shit.

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12-09-2002, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by Choker

Let me guess, Joshua icqued you asking you to post that all was ok and promised you that Steve would not only pay what he owes you but would also pay the bank fees you incurred from his bad check? If so this is typical of Steve and Joshua. Steve thinks he is King Big Shit because the nerds at his board do not realize what a piece of garbage he really is. And Joshua is his punk ass little bitch.

You're ignorant. You need to get over shit. This is going to be the FINAL time I tell you this.

STEVE WASN'T THE ONE THAT ASKED ME TO ASK YOU TO ADVERTISE. I THOUGHT OF IT, RAN IT BY OCTAV AND HE SAID OK. THEN HE MENTIONED AFTER I ALREADY ASKED YOU THAT YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T BECAUSE OF STEVE OR SOMETHING.

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12-09-2002, 01:34 PM

Just had to check to make sure you weren't talking about me. Looks like I dodged another bullet.
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12-09-2002, 01:35 PM

Funny thread.

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12-09-2002, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by Steve's bitch Joshua
You're ignorant. You need to get over shit. This is going to be the FINAL time I tell you this.

STEVE WASN'T THE ONE THAT ASKED ME TO ASK YOU TO ADVERTISE. I THOUGHT OF IT, RAN IT BY OCTAV AND HE SAID OK. THEN HE MENTIONED AFTER I ALREADY ASKED YOU THAT YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T BECAUSE OF STEVE OR SOMETHING.

Ignorant? Whatever. You are a pissant Josh and you know it. BTW, all the Mods on that nerd board have been banned from any of my shit because you all know what a thief Steve is yet you continue to give him rimjobs. If you knowingly trade with a cheater you are a cheater too. You all know Steve is a thief and a scumbag. But since your lives are so empty being a moderater on his nerd board makes you feel like you are Mr. Bigshot, whatever. TeenGodFather was the only mod there that had the self respect to tell Steve to fuck off. The rest of you are nothing but spineless pussies. So you and Crunch take my buttons and links off your sites NOW. Don't bother to try to login your account is deleted. Keep running your mouth you little Steve cronie, see what happens next.

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12-09-2002, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by Choker

Ignorant? Whatever. You are a pissant Josh and you know it. BTW, all the Mods on that nerd board have been banned from any of my shit because you all know what a thief Steve is yet you continue to give him rimjobs. If you knowingly trade with a cheater you are a cheater too. You all know Steve is a thief and a scumbag. But since your lives are so empty being a moderater on his nerd board makes you feel like you are Mr. Bigshot, whatever. TeenGodFather was the only mod there that had the self respect to tell Steve to fuck off. The rest of you are nothing but spineless pussies. So you and Crunch take my buttons and links off your sites NOW. Don't bother to try to login your account is deleted. Keep running your mouth you little Steve cronie, see what happens next.

Yes, ignorant. How many times did I explain that to you? How many times did I say YOU ARE RIGHT. IT'S A STUPID REASON TO BAN SOMEONE and you kept going on and on going after me when I was saying YOU WERE IN THE RIGHT? I can post countless threads that are on AWV, AWI, hahahahahahaha and any other board that I responded on saying STEVE WAS IN THE WRONG and you know it.

And from what I can tell, I'm the ONLY person that has said shit to you and was in your program. And the ONLY reason I did was because you keep starting shit on me and for what? Agreeing with you?

So from what I can tell, I disagreed with Steve and you. And I'm a spineless pussy. Whatever dude.

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12-09-2002, 01:57 PM

And I'm not going to stop posting at a board because of a stupid ass reason like that. If you're going to start doing this, don't be a hypocrite. Do it with EVERYONE and EVERY program/person that has ever fucked someone over before or was in the wrong. I guarantee you won't do it because then you would have no one in your program.

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12-09-2002, 02:01 PM

Look pissant, it's not just the fact that your daddy Steve banned me from his gay board because I ignored him on icq, which BTW I ignored him because he uses ICQ to spam with, It's the fact that your daddy tried to make me look like a shithead. And when everyone jumped on his ass about it he locked and deleted the threads. You know and I know Steve rips people off. You are his bitch, he does not have the balls to come here to answer up to the claims in this thread that he rips people off. He sends his rimjob boy (that's you) here to do damage control. Isn't Steve a man? Can't he come here and confront his accusers?

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12-09-2002, 02:03 PM

Are we talking about Steve Goldman here?
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12-09-2002, 02:07 PM

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Look pissant, it's not just the fact that your daddy Steve banned me from his gay board because I ignored him on icq, which BTW I ignored him because he uses ICQ to spam with, It's the fact that your daddy tried to make me look like a shithead. And when everyone jumped on his ass about it he locked and deleted the threads. You know and I know Steve rips people off. You are his bitch, he does not have the balls to come here to answer up to the claims in this thread that he rips people off. He sends his rimjob boy (that's you) here to do damage control. Isn't Steve a man? Can't he come here and confront his accusers?

As far as I know Steve doesn't even know about this thread. No one has sent me anywhere to respond on behalf of anyone else. I was here when the thread started, so I replied.

Once again all you do is go after me again while ignoring my question and points. Just like you did over at AWI when all this started last month.

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12-09-2002, 02:08 PM

Hey Josh, you seem to be awefully happy that you got paid. Steve still owes me $400, I've asked him 3 times already and still nothing. It seems you already have the damn $$$ in the bank.

What the FUCK is up? I have a right to my cash and Steve keeps denying me it, and from what I read, many others as well. Is this a way to do business?

The only resolution to this is: APOLOGIZE for the enormous disturbance of the delay and PAYPAL the money to the people he owes to. NO more excuses, I wanna see some CASH!
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12-09-2002, 02:09 PM

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Are we talking about Steve Goldman here?

Yah, I think that's his last name.

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12-09-2002, 02:09 PM

Joshua (4:07 PM) :
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Respond or something. I'm gettin sick of this shit. Child ass choker
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12-09-2002, 02:12 PM

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Hey Josh, you seem to be awefully happy that you got paid. Steve still owes me $400, I've asked him 3 times already and still nothing. It seems you already have the damn $$$ in the bank.

What the FUCK is up? I have a right to my cash and Steve keeps denying me it, and from what I read, many others as well. Is this a way to do business?

The only resolution to this is: APOLOGIZE for the enormous disturbance of the delay and PAYPAL the money to the people he owes to. NO more excuses, I wanna see some CASH!

All I can suggest is to try contacting him on ICQ, email or on the phone. Don't know what else to tell ya. According to him he's banned from posting here so he can't reply or anything.

I've also seen others that say they've been paid by him so I don't know man. Just try contacting him one of those ways if you're able to.

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12-09-2002, 02:14 PM

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Respond or something. I'm gettin sick of this shit. Child ass choker
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Yep I am conviced now Joshua, You are not Steve's little bitch.

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12-09-2002, 02:17 PM

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Yep I am conviced now Joshua, You are not Steve's little bitch.

Whatever. I posted that to prove to you that I told him to come here and what he said. I didn't post it because he asked me to.

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12-09-2002, 02:17 PM

I've been in this game for nearly 7 years now and have made my share of money.
I've been getting checks from just about every little shitty place on the globe but Steve claims it takes 7 WEEKS for a check to get here (that's nearly 2 months) which is complete bullshit.

I'm sick and tired of his fucking excuses which of course is absolutely bullshit.
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12-09-2002, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by Josh

All I can suggest is to try contacting him on ICQ, email or on the phone. Don't know what else to tell ya. According to him he's banned from posting here so he can't reply or anything.

I've also seen others that say they've been paid by him so I don't know man. Just try contacting him one of those ways if you're able to.

Do you think I'm fucking stupid? That's the same routine I've been on for the last 3 or 4 months. I'm done with that. I want the amount that is owed to me, this is business not thieving the shit out of people.

Ask Steve for a reply on this and you post it on the board. I'm through with dealing with evasive bullshit.
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12-09-2002, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by Undutchable

Do you think I'm fucking stupid? That's the same routine I've been on for the last 3 or 4 months. I'm done with that. I want the amount that is owed to me, this is business not thieving the shit out of people.

Ask Steve for a reply on this and you post it on the board. I'm through with dealing with evasive bullshit.

Dude, settle down. I was just suggesting something to do. I'm NOT the one that owes you shit. I'm trying to help you.

If you wanna tell me what he owes you the money from, when and how much it is I'll ask him for you. But only because you asked me so nicely!

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12-09-2002, 02:26 PM

If you wanna tell me what he owes you the money from, when and how much it is I'll ask him for you. But only because you asked me so nicely

You are a good little bitch after all Joshua. Does your Daddy pay you everytime you bend over and spread your ass for him, or does he pay you by the hour? Dude, where is your self respect at? You must really feel like a slut right about now.

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12-09-2002, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by Choker

You are a good little bitch after all Joshua. Does your Daddy pay you everytime you bend over and spread your ass for him, or does he pay you by the hour? Dude, where is your self respect at? You must really feel like a slut right about now.

Undutchable, I guess I'm your new bitch and son. :

Choker do you not see I'm trying to help Undutchable, NOT Steve? Is Steve the one that asked me to do this? No, Undutchable which is someone I don't even know asked and I'm being nice and trying to HELP him out.

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12-09-2002, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by Josh

Dude, settle down. I was just suggesting something to do. I'm NOT the one that owes you shit. I'm trying to help you.

If you wanna tell me what he owes you the money from, when and how much it is I'll ask him for you. But only because you asked me so nicely!

I'm talking to him now

So far it's been the same: I will send you the check routine... Im fucking furious
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12-09-2002, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by Josh

Undutchable, I guess I'm your new bitch and son. :

Choker do you not see I'm trying to help Undutchable, NOT Steve? Is Steve the one that asked me to do this? No, Undutchable which is someone I don't even know asked and I'm being nice and trying to HELP him out.

You're not helping at all, you're covering. Don't play me for a sucker
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12-09-2002, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by Undutchable

You're not helping at all, you're covering. Don't play me for a sucker

LMMFAO. You crack me up. Maybe you should go over to AWI and do some research on some of the stuff I've said/asked myself. Just like if anyone had any questions or comments about ANYONE else that they didn't know or know as well as me, I would talk to the person for them. I guess I'm the only person that's nice enough to do this and this is something new so it must be a scam or cover, eh?

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12-09-2002, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by Josh

LMMFAO. You crack me up. Maybe you should go over to AWI and do some research on some of the stuff I've said/asked myself. Just like if anyone had any questions or comments about ANYONE else that they didn't know or know as well as me, I would talk to the person for them. I guess I'm the only person that's nice enough to do this and this is something new so it must be a scam or cover, eh?

It all boils down to this: You can't trust people who side with liars.

Oh by the way, looks like Steve is quitting the business? I've heard that before... http://www.adulthahahahahahahahahaha...&threadid=2600
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12-09-2002, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by Undutchable

It all boils down to this: You can't trust people who side with liars.

Oh by the way, looks like Steve is quitting the business? I've heard that before... http://www.adulthahahahahahahahahaha...&threadid=2600

Show me where I sided with anyone? I believe I've ONLY sided with Choker, and he's called me a spinless pussy for doing so. You guys are confusing the hell out of me here. I simply tried to help you get this settled and now you're starting with me?

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12-09-2002, 02:56 PM

Impoartant whoever is trying to crash my server stop it now. I have a server being attacked and my host and the police watching it. Whoever thinks its funny to intentionally try take down my server stop it now. Steve

DO NOT EVEN GO THERE Joshua. It ain't me. I do not do things like this. You even accuse me of this and the shit WILL hit the fan.
Maybe Steve needs to look into his extensive list of people he has ripped off for the person that took down his server. It sure as hell is not me so don't even try it dude.

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12-09-2002, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by Josh

Show me where I sided with anyone? I believe I've ONLY sided with Choker, and he's called me a spinless pussy for doing so. You guys are confusing the hell out of me here. I simply tried to help you get this settled and now you're starting with me?

Again, don't play me for a sucker. You are moderator on his board AND you're the only person I know who got paid (out of MANY, MANY webmasters I saw got screwed together with me)..

I just finished talking to Steve on ICQ so I've heard enough bullshit for now. Same old shit... I'm done here
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12-09-2002, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by Undutchable

I just finished talking to Steve on ICQ so I've heard enough bullshit for now. Same old shit... I'm done here

Hehe did he also tell you the old story about 'the pricks at the post office' ?

I've heard that one LOTS of times now...

If he really is gonna drop out of this business I have to say it's after all a happy day.
One less cheater...
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