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OK, Now I'm Pissed: HILLARY (Obama supporters must read!)
So I just got an email from the Obama campaign. Get this:
"American Leadership Project" will take unlimited contributions from individuals and is organized the same way as the infamous Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. ABC News reports that this group is seeking 100 Clinton supporters to each give $100,000 to fund its $10 million effort to promote Senator Clinton and "contrast" her positions with Barack Obama's." Isn't this shit illegal? And if it's not, it should be! Talk about special interest and politics as usual. You know, up until now I would have been happy with either Senator as the Dem. nominee in the fall (though my preference is Obama). NOT ANYMORE!! Now, I have not seen or heard this story on any major media outlets. Why the silence? Where is the outrage?? Hell, what does John McCain have to say about THIS for campaign finance reform? I am one person. I don't know how to spread the word around, but the GFY grapevine is always a good place to start. This type of underhanded, quid-pro-quo political maneuvering must stop! If you care about the future of this country, get mad and do something! Tell someone! I'm off to bully CNN. |
and how exactly did they get your email?
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wait... what? Where does the email start and stop, and who are you pissed off at?
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You still think one individual steers the whole country??
Relax worker, not even one company's president can run his company alone, not to mention the whole country/nation. So relax who ever gets elected, the tings will depend on how hard you work! I never heard of anyone got rich because of the particular president who was elected that year. :food-smil02 So keep flipping burgers and relax, we still love burgers.. |
Um did you honestly expect anything different?
Do you really think any of them want this changed? Everyone wants to talk about finance reform but nobody ever fixes it, hmm wonder why that could be. |
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The email was sent by David Plouffe, Obama's campaign manager. Redshoe, I am pissed at the Clinton campaign. This type of collusion between a candidate and "corporation" (founded a couple of days ago) is illegal, and for a good reason. Obama's lawyer, Bob Bauer, has said that the group could face criminal and civil liabilties, and is threatening legal action. I am also pissed at most of the major news outlets for not uttering a peep about this. Even ABC, who broke the story, now has it pretty well buried. My question: Why are you people NOT pissed? |
There are some who would argue that this is simply freedom of speech in action. If you don't like Obama (or any candidate for that matter) should you not be allowed to form a group and make commercials or take out ads in the paper stating your position?
What makes things like this underhanded is when a nominee organizes them as a way of getting around the rules. If someone decides to act on their own and pay for some commercials themselves that is one thing, it's another when a campaign helps them set it up and steers them in how they want to do this. I am 100% for free speech, but I think there needs to be some kind of regulations on these things including allowing you to get sued if you make false statements and making it so that nominees can't organize or advise these types of things. |
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I think it might have happened to one or two over the years lol |
What was the email that was sent out? No one knows what you are talking about.
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everyone quit knockin on Hillary damn
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I'm not sure what's confusing y'all, but...here is the email:
News broke yesterday that a few wealthy Clinton supporters are gearing up for a massive spending campaign to boost her chances in the big upcoming contests in Texas and Ohio on March 4th. The so-called "American Leadership Project" will take unlimited contributions from individuals and is organized the same way as the infamous Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. ABC News reports that this group is seeking 100 Clinton supporters to each give $100,000 to fund its $10 million effort to promote Senator Clinton and "contrast" her positions with Barack Obama's. That's the opposite of how politics should work, and the opposite of how Barack Obama has run this campaign. The same day this group's activity was revealed, we announced that nearly 1 million individual people have donated to this campaign. Stand up against politics-as-usual. Be one of the million supporters who are calling out for change. If you give as part of our matching program, your gift will be doubled by a previous donor. You can even choose to exchange a note with them about why you are part of this movement. Make your matching donation now: https://donate.barackobama.com/match Groups like this are forbidden from working primarily for the purpose of electing or defeating a candidate. Yet here we have a committee that springs up on the eve of an election, promotes a specific candidate, and has no history or apparent purpose of lobbying specific issues outside the benefit to the candidate of these communications. This raises a number of legal and ethical issues, but more than anything it reveals an attitude towards politics as a game that is played to win at all costs. Americans are ready for change. We are tired of Swift Boat-style groups and smear campaigns. Be one of a million voices calling for a new kind of politics and a new kind of leadership. I'll keep you updated as the situation with this group evolves. Thank you for your support, David David Plouffe Campaign Manager Obama for America |
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Obama is taking money from individual donors, who are capped off at $2300. Over 900,000 individuals have donated to his campaign. What this group is doing is more like a corporation buying a candidate. And sorry, I think the Clintons probably pre-approved it (no, I can't prove that, of course. gut feeling).
I had no problem with Hillary till today. NONE. But she's gone on the bandwagon about "change for America" too, and this reeks of shady, backroom deals and politics as usual. It's the deception that bothers me the most. |
Stand up against politics as usual?
Using a campaign newsletter to get donations from your supporters is somehow not politics as usual? umm.. I dont want to be rude about it, but there is more politics as usual in Obama's campaign and past record as everyone else. Where is the media on that? :winkwink: A bit blinded by his light :pimp |
So you buy a newsletter hook, line and sinker and it makes you even more against someone. Negative politics as usual. Incredibly clever.. do you see it?
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I wonder how many slumlords have donated to his campaign
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How is that a problem? Obama does the same thing or not?
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I love politics and the hate it incites in people. Absofuckinglutely love it. :1orglaugh
Don't be mad, study their marketing and get rich. |
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this group seems to fall into one that's pushing one candidate - clinton. and being established one week ago to the day isn't helping the groups credibility. this reeks of shadiness. |
Freedom of speech kicks ass.
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Swift Boat Veterans for Truth --isn't that the same group which Bill Clinton has blasted in his speeches?
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1. I did look the story up elsewhere, thanks. Though it was difficult to find.
2. It did not make me "more against someone". I wasn't against Hillary in the first damn place. I've said repeatedly during the campaign season that I'd be happy with either Senator as Pres. 3. If I truly believed that was the newsletter's purpose, then I would think it clever. I don't think it was written to incite anger. It WAS to get donations. LOL, they always are. 4. Thank you for getting my point, Hippy. This is ridiculous. |
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BULLSHIT I am signed up to just about every Obama group on the internet and I recieve every campagin email right away I have never recievedthe email that I am sure you just made up your post is false 100% why try to start rumors on the internet? pathetic:2 cents: |
I am pro Obama and want him to win
... but I dont want to get there with BS rumors and lies:2 cents: there was no email like this from the Obama camp and no such group exist to support Hillary |
I will forward it to you, if you like. Give me your addy. Came to BOTH my email addresses and was sent Thurs., Feb. 21.
And don't call me a liar, you fucking punk. We are (strangely enough) on the same side. |
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that wouldnt make any sense and im not a fuckin punk |
There are THREE total links to donate in the email (four if you count the image on the sidebar). Two are in the middle, one after the signature. Really, give me your addy - I'll be more than happy to send it to you.
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I don't have a problem with these groups. If a private group of citizens want to organize whatever they want around their candidate, then they should have the freedom to do so and spend whatever they have.
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Why do you even give a fuck? Stop being a dick blower and get back to work. |
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if a pro national healthcare group forms, and wants to take unlimited donations to promote their message and the candidates that support their message, that's fine. but bullshit like this is not.. open your eyes :upsidedow |
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I stand corrected my apoligies Madleix... but I never recived the email in question good catch wow |
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