Halcyon, what is your workout routine?
 

So how does a guy like me get a body like you?

Any protein/creatine/whatever else is hot right now involved?

Let's hear the secrets!!!

very good genetics.

First dye your hair pink. When you have done that, start another thread for step number two.

this thread is too gay :(

genetics - don't let anybody tell you different. i'm sure he takes care of himself and his diet is much better than the typical webmaster diet of 2 liters of Moutain Dew, pizza, cigarettes, potato chips but it's still 90% genetics.

I will go for genetics - I could work out all day and not look like that.

like people said, 90% of it is genetics, the rest is taking care of yourself. if you have the right build, it's nothing that push ups, pull ups, and sit ups can't keep up for you.

genetics, discipline, and routine.

he can't tell you. well, he could but then he'd have to hug you to death.

hehe.

I can't speak for Halcyon because I don't' know what his routine is. Maybe he always looked like he does now since he was young. But all you guys suggesting that having a lean body is mostly genetics just don't want to work out hard or eat a strictly healthy diet. Anyone can be lean and muscular to varying degrees, depending on your build, but you have to have discipline and exercise hard, lifting weights and doing some cardio and eating really well all in combination.

The proof in what I am saying is the endless examples of former out of shape, overweight people who made a startling transformation to their physiques by applying the principles of lifting weights, eating very healthy (and not overeating) and doing some cardiovascular exercise.

Anyone saying you need great genetics or saying that they have slow metabolisms, thyroid imbalances or a myriad of other nonsense excuses as to why they personally can't get lean and ripped don't know what they are talking about or are downright full of shit.

Ditto...

I do eat like him, I work out the same, I was even bangin' Tassy for a while. My relationship with her was very one sided. I don't even think she knew we were going out.

either way, I do everything that Hal does, and I'm still overweight.

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a big tool needs a big shed

Even fat people can have good muscle shape genetics underneith all that. All they need to do is lose weight and there it is.

Then there is people like me who are not fat at all, yet I go swimming and see 14yo boys with a better chest than me. It's definitely genetics.

this thread is useless without pics

How do you know that that kid isn't on some sport team and doesn't work out few times a week? How often do you work out yourself?

Bulk up, than cut on a good roids cycle. First cycle won't hurt you.

You keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. If you want a bigger chest than you can make it so with a little hard work in the gym. Of course there is a natural variation in people's physiques. But the effort you put in the gym, combined with a proper diet can override your inertia and change your body if you really care to.

fuck no son, that nigga just needs to eat. Not hating but i searched for some pics and he looks like any other skinny ass dude

Is there any protein involved in a fit muscular body? Are you seriously asking that?

Feel better after the rant? The way he looks if you know anything genetics plays a big part of that, the thin skin and the muscle bellies. My brother has never been overweight, when he was in his 20's he ate extremely clean. Workout very very hard was in excellent condition but never had that brad pitt /Hal look. He looked good but didnt have that ripped type of look. Thats genes. So the guy asking can get in great shape with working hard but if he doesnt have the tools he isnt going to have that look.

Try the gym?

forget eating well and doing excercise the secret is a bottle of pills :winkwink:

He's on the Ryan Reynolds diet. Google that shit.

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Sorry, but pretty much anyone can get ripped with the right workout routine and diet. Granted they do not have some health issues.

And certainly some people have to work harder then others.

Why do you believe that there is a level of fat that people with certain genetics just cant burn off no matter what, just because of their genetic makeup?

not everyone can get that wet gauze over muscle look, skin thickness effects it. Sly stallone couldnt get to rocky 3 shape til he turned to drugs. Now anyone can be in incredible shape with hard work but we arent all the same.

maybe because logic and seeing examples in real life tend to point toward that theory

some people with bad genetics can starve themselves to anorexic levels and still have fat on their abs... the fat stays and muscle is catabolized preferentially, so that they look skinny and never achieve a ripped look no matter what they do to burn off fat

Almost anyone can achieve a low body fat percentage. It is a lifestyle, not a 3 month diet plan.

Are you by any chance morbildy obese?

strong stimulants like cocaine or amphetamines have been known to override genetics in burning up body fat to ridiculously low percentages in some

So, what about people who come from families with history of obesity, getting in amazing shape from proper eating, supplementation and exercise? Are they freaks of nature?

I'm only asking, because ive seen this same exact rhetoric from lazy, obese people who didn't want to get off the couch. Instead they complained and blamed their health issues on genetics.


If you starve yourself for lean chisled look, you wont be getting it. You'll just lose whatever muscle you have and get sick.

I have seen so many people with this mentality who have change their lives dramatically all from eating better, working out and with proper supplements.

Go watch the episode of Bullshit where they discuss this very issue. They have doctors and even fitness people saying it's all genetics.

Some people can work out their whole lives and not look as good as Hal.

Look at Jack Le Lane. I guarantee you that if you ate like him, you wouldn't be anywhere near as healthy. That dude has genes from another world.

I agree 100%, because i live it!

I dont walk around lower then 7% but in the summer i get down to 3% every single time

yes I am big and fat but that has nothing to do with science. Go look at pro bodybuilders they all dont look exactly the same its genetics. You dont know about the 3 different body types? Once again which you choose to ignore rocky couldnt get ripped like rocky 3 til he turned to drugs. His was a man who lived the fitness bodybuilding lifestyle, he looked good but couldn't get that ripped look.
Just like fat people who say its all genetics, its just as dim to say everyone can have a ripped brad pitt/hal look naturally.

A quote from his Ambush Interview:

Discuss 'the abs'.

LOL. Well, I’ll try to talk about my tummy without sounding like a prick. >From 16 to 22, I was really into weight training. I would force myself to eat and lift heavy weights and try to get as big as possible. But that was also the same time I started growing my hair out. And when you have a HUGE head of 80’s metal hair, your body looks small NO MATTER WHAT. So I came to the conclusion that big hair with abs was my best option. Luckily, I found out that my genetics and metabolism were MUCH better suited to be cut than to be big. Since then I would say that my number one workout tip has been consistency. I’ve never gone more than a month without working out. Never. And I don’t mean like triathalete training workouts, just pushups, sit ups, pull-ups, and walking. Combine that with smart eating and this is the way my body naturally falls into balance. Honestly, genetics is the main ingredient. My 64 year old dad is still fit and has pretty good abs, himself.

3% is sick. All of my friends are bodybuilders/atheletes and ive only known 1 guy to get to 4%. He was so lean, it was almost as if you could see his heart beating.

I start cutting feb. 1st for the summer. My goal is 7%.

I have seen miracles in the gym for really dedicated people. However most lose motivation quick especially when they reach a plateau. If you approach this as a battle of life and death you will get fit no matter how fit you are now. I guarantee it I have seen it happen over years in my gym. But this really depends on your priorities. People have different priorities in life....

No, you are right, the bottom line is to set realistic goals based on your own genetics.... if someone that doesn't have the ripped washboard ab type genetic is stuck on getting an 8 pack, they are just setting themselves up for disappointment... .but if their goal is to get leaner and healthier than they are now, then that is a good thing

i dont think halcyon is even that big, just really low body fat. which isnt genetics. anyone who tells you its genetics are usually using that excuse because they dont have the willpower that halcyon has.

Dude, im trying to be nice here, but it seems like you're just full of excuses and bullshit.

You being a big guy im sure has alot to do with a plethora of reasons; diet is the biggest one.

I know alot about the human body - im sure you're referring to meso, ecto and endomorphs. Yes I know a thing or 2 about that.

Sly is a hardcore ass guy. Im sure he's done his share of andro and all kinds of other shit. He was fucking LEAN in First Blood and that was filmed the same year (1982). Im still not sure why you're refrencing Rocky 3. I've only seen that movie once and that was 20 years ago when I was 5.