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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-26-2007 03:04 PM

Will Metallica get it right?
 
I saw a couple interviews with Lars Ulrich and Kirt Hammet talkin about thier new album some and they are saying basically they are returning to thier roots of the metal sound.

The sound that made Metallica from the 80's.

This has got me really curious, cuz after St. Anger I lost all respect for thier music as it was the worse album in music history, at least to me.

So...
I wonder if they can pull it off.

papill0n 10-26-2007 03:11 PM

I think they can

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr0...caprshot.l.jpg

L-Pink 10-26-2007 03:16 PM

Look at Lars, rock guys must hate going bald.:Oh crap

dissipate 10-26-2007 03:21 PM

not unless lars grows his hair back

DamageX 10-26-2007 03:24 PM

When's it due?

StuartD 10-26-2007 03:29 PM

I lost a lot of respect for them when they went from a garage band who was only available via blank cassette copies to a commercial band that hated having their music shared because it meant not making more millions.

DamageX 10-26-2007 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13292483)
I lost a lot of respect for them when they went from a garage band who was only available via blank cassette copies to a commercial band that hated having their music shared because it meant not making more millions.

Yes, let's lose all the respect for all the people who don't like the results of their hard work stolen.

L-Pink 10-26-2007 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13292483)
I lost a lot of respect for them when they went from a garage band who was only available via blank cassette copies to a commercial band that hated having their music shared because it meant not making more millions.

Did you really say that? :Oh crap:(

Profits of Doom 10-26-2007 03:36 PM

Didn't they say the same thing about St. Anger before that disaster came out, that it would be a return to their roots? I remember the days when my entire wardrobe consisted of Metallica concert t-shirts, but I honestly don't have a lot of faith in them ever coming close to what they were. When "And Justice for All" came out I bought it on cassette tape and played it so much I burnt the tape out, and I remember thinking that it was the perfect polished metal sound. Too bad it was all down hill from there...

StuartD 10-26-2007 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 13292491)
Yes, let's lose all the respect for all the people who don't like the results of their hard work stolen.

If they were a commercial band to begin with, I would be backing them up. But making copies is how anyone ever heard them in the first place. Blank cassettes were their biggest distributors.

In a sense, they turned their backs on all the people who loved them before they became a radio band.

I have paid for their albums, and I've had some copies of their "garage days"... they are hard to find now. And while I agree that they have a right to be mad about losing out on the money... I don't think they are the right "voice" to stand against it when they would be no one without it in the first place.

Violetta 10-26-2007 03:40 PM

st anger was a horrible sound. They just tried TOOO hard

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-26-2007 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 13292524)
Didn't they say the same thing about St. Anger before that disaster came out, that it would be a return to their roots? I remember the days when my entire wardrobe consisted of Metallica concert t-shirts, but I honestly don't have a lot of faith in them ever coming close to what they were. When "And Justice for All" came out I bought it on cassette tape and played it so much I burnt the tape out, and I remember thinking that it was the perfect polished metal sound. Too bad it was all down hill from there...

Yup that about sums it up.
I can play better riff's than any of that shit on St. Anger in a drunken stupor on broken out of tune strings.

The polished sound of old Metallica from song like Ride The Lightening, Master Of Puppet's was pure mastery of the art. I do not want better I just want what I expected from Metallica in the late 80's to even early 90's.

Brother Bilo 10-26-2007 03:42 PM

I haven't liked shit since And Justice For All. The self titled album was cool for a little while, but I got tired of hearing the shit all the time on 10 different radio stations.

Way too many other bands I would rather listen to than Metallica.

L-Pink 10-26-2007 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13292553)
If they were a commercial band to begin with, I would be backing them up. But making copies is how anyone ever heard them in the first place. Blank cassettes were their biggest distributors.

In a sense, they turned their backs on all the people who loved them before they became a radio band.

I have paid for their albums, and I've had some copies of their "garage days"... they are hard to find now. And while I agree that they have a right to be mad about losing out on the money... I don't think they are the right "voice" to stand against it when they would be no one without it in the first place.

I can't believe you said this either, wtf?

DamageX 10-26-2007 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13292553)
If they were a commercial band to begin with, I would be backing them up. But making copies is how anyone ever heard them in the first place. Blank cassettes were their biggest distributors.

In a sense, they turned their backs on all the people who loved them before they became a radio band.

I have paid for their albums, and I've had some copies of their "garage days"... they are hard to find now. And while I agree that they have a right to be mad about losing out on the money... I don't think they are the right "voice" to stand against it when they would be no one without it in the first place.

Yes, a world-famous band is likely the worst advocate against piracy. Love your reasoning. Iron logic.

StuartD 10-26-2007 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 13292606)
Yes, a world-famous band is likely the worst advocate against piracy. Love your reasoning. Iron logic.

Ah, but I didn't say "world-famous" nor did I say they were the "worst".
The reason you can't understand the reasoning is that you just made up your own words.

2012 10-26-2007 03:50 PM

ride the lightning man

Brother Bilo 10-26-2007 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13292553)
If they were a commercial band to begin with, I would be backing them up. But making copies is how anyone ever heard them in the first place. Blank cassettes were their biggest distributors.

In a sense, they turned their backs on all the people who loved them before they became a radio band.

I have paid for their albums, and I've had some copies of their "garage days"... they are hard to find now. And while I agree that they have a right to be mad about losing out on the money... I don't think they are the right "voice" to stand against it when they would be no one without it in the first place.

I love people who say shit like this. I can't like whatever band because they became mainstream. They got popular by dispersing tapes and whatever other kinds of media they could to get big, and then once they get big, people talk shit like they sold out.

What kind of fucking local band sets out to not be popular? Isn't that the whole point? They made it big, good for them, most don't. I am in agreement that their music currently sucks nard, but I can't hate on them for getting popular. Their music was the shit back in the day.

Profits of Doom 10-26-2007 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13292553)
If they were a commercial band to begin with, I would be backing them up. But making copies is how anyone ever heard them in the first place. Blank cassettes were their biggest distributors.

In a sense, they turned their backs on all the people who loved them before they became a radio band.

I have paid for their albums, and I've had some copies of their "garage days"... they are hard to find now. And while I agree that they have a right to be mad about losing out on the money... I don't think they are the right "voice" to stand against it when they would be no one without it in the first place.

It was a different time then, since a metal band couldn't get on commercial radio and there was no satellite radio or internet for them to spread their music. Every metal band of that era used to rely on bootleg tape traders to spread their music, but can you really blame them for wanting to cash in when it was warranted?

DamageX 10-26-2007 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13292616)
Ah, but I didn't say "world-famous" nor did I say they were the "worst".
The reason you can't understand the reasoning is that you just made up your own words.

As you made up yours.

StuartD 10-26-2007 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 13292633)
It was a different time then, since a metal band couldn't get on commercial radio and there was no satellite radio or internet for them to spread their music. Every metal band of that era used to rely on bootleg tape traders to spread their music, but can you really blame them for wanting to cash in when it was warranted?

Nope, as I said, I can't blame them... I just don't think they were the best choice to be the loudest voice.
As I said, it was as if they turned their backs on all those who were there from day one.

Those people, including myself, still paid money for their albums because we loved their music and support them... but even if someone paid for for their album AND downloaded so much as a single Metallica track.... they'd find Metallica's attorney's at their door with lawsuit in hand.

Profits of Doom 10-26-2007 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13292672)
Nope, as I said, I can't blame them... I just don't think they were the best choice to be the loudest voice.
As I said, it was as if they turned their backs on all those who were there from day one.

Those people, including myself, still paid money for their albums because we loved their music and support them... but even if someone paid for for their album AND downloaded so much as a single Metallica track.... they'd find Metallica's attorney's at their door with lawsuit in hand.

True, but as much as it pissed me off then I can still understand why they did it. They were trying to protect their work, and at that time Napster was setting a dangerous precedent. How many people that used Napster were only downloading one song? I'm not saying I don't do it...shit, I download free music on a regular basis. But can I blame anyone but myself if a lawsuit shows up on my door one day? Just because I supported them in the past doesn't give me the right to steal from them today...

Brother Bilo 10-26-2007 04:19 PM

Bring back Cliff Burton and Dave Mustaine and they might rock again. Although I bet Burton would be easier to bring back than Mustaine.

StuartD 10-26-2007 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 13292734)
Bring back Cliff Burton and Dave Mustaine and they might rock again. Although I bet Burton would be easier to bring back than Mustaine.

Despite their differences, I'm sure that it would be easier to resolve them than to bring Burton back to life.

Brother Bilo 10-26-2007 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13292756)
Despite their differences, I'm sure that it would be easier to resolve them than to bring Burton back to life.

It's probably a 50/50 split. Hammett filled his spot alright anyways except the vocals.

Doesn't really matter, Megadeth kicks ass.

Profits of Doom 10-26-2007 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 13292766)
It's probably a 50/50 split. Hammett filled his spot alright anyways except the vocals.

Doesn't really matter, Megadeth kicks ass.

I will always love Megadeth...

StuartD 10-26-2007 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 13292766)
It's probably a 50/50 split. Hammett filled his spot alright anyways except the vocals.

Doesn't really matter, Megadeth kicks ass.

Countdown to Extinction was an album I could listen to start to finish over and over again.... without getting tired of it.

And Youthanasia had some of the most riveting lyrics/messages that I had ever heard at the time.

evildick 10-26-2007 05:25 PM

Well here is the stuff they have been working on. Sounds OK, but hard to tell when it's live.

New Metallica song 1

New Metallica song 2

Brother Bilo 10-26-2007 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13292791)
Countdown to Extinction was an album I could listen to start to finish over and over again.... without getting tired of it.

And Youthanasia had some of the most riveting lyrics/messages that I had ever heard at the time.

Agreed. Those are probably 2 of my favorite all time albums. Right up there with Anthrax State of Euphoria.

evildick 10-26-2007 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by evildick (Post 13292998)
Well here is the stuff they have been working on. Sounds OK, but hard to tell when it's live.

New Metallica song 1

New Metallica song 2

You'll notice that at least they have guitar solos back. That had to be the stupidest thing about St. Anger, no guitar solos on ANY song.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-26-2007 05:56 PM

Hammet's solo's were fucking great, if not the greatest ever.
Why they would remove that strength is fucking insane.

Tim 10-27-2007 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 13292437)
Look at Lars, rock guys must hate going bald.:Oh crap

Ain't that the truth :Oh crap

2012 10-27-2007 05:36 AM

i love metallica but ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben (Post 13292420)

whats wrong with this picture?

straight pose | gay pose | straight pose | gay pose ... ?

flowereater 10-27-2007 05:40 AM

they still can. and they can :)

Cyber Fucker 10-27-2007 05:43 AM

they will never return to their roots, not possible.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IcsaBKoK9-o
they will never be the same, anyway I will still like the stuff that they did in the past

Malicious Biz 10-27-2007 05:43 AM

Metallica died when they released the black album. People were just too busy buying into the MTV hype to smell their rotten corpse. They've just been digging up the body and making it dance for money ever since.

Cyber Fucker 10-27-2007 05:52 AM

:bowdown:bowdown:bowdownhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=G63YItfPDG4
:bowdown:bowdown:bowdown https://youtube.com/watch?v=BuOxeOrOJGg

peterk 10-27-2007 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evildick (Post 13292998)
Well here is the stuff they have been working on. Sounds OK, but hard to tell when it's live.

New Metallica song 1

New Metallica song 2

Sounds good :thumbsup

MrPinks 10-27-2007 08:51 AM

Those new songs suck! They need to give it up after this. If Rick Rubin can't turn them around, they are hopeless.

"Whoooa whooooa whooooa yeah" come on wtf is that. Trying too hard to be like The Misfits now?

Quote:

Originally Posted by evildick (Post 13292998)
Well here is the stuff they have been working on. Sounds OK, but hard to tell when it's live.

New Metallica song 1

New Metallica song 2


Adultnet 10-27-2007 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by flowereater (Post 13294648)
they still can. and they can :)

yeah they have the powers :) :pimp


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