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G-Rotica 10-24-2007 01:04 PM

Cops arrest reporter for standing on a public sidewalk.
 
This is some of the most fucked up shit I have ever seen. There is a long UNEDITED video on the page.

http://www.local10.com/news/14411684/detail.html

Tom_PM 10-24-2007 01:24 PM

Well, the fact that they continually asked him to go across the street and would not state a reason is bullshit. They should have known a law that they could claim they were enforcing in asking that.

The fact that the reporter had a concealed .38 handgun without a license is PURE idiocy.

Tom_PM 10-24-2007 01:28 PM

Oh sorry, he DID have a license to carry a concealed weapon, but it's still pretty stupid. Maybe not idiocy.

Brother Bilo 10-24-2007 01:29 PM

Fuck him. The reporter was breaking the law and now he's pissed that he got arrested, and he's not even black?

G-Rotica 10-24-2007 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 13282180)
Oh sorry, he DID have a license to carry a concealed weapon, but it's still pretty stupid. Maybe not idiocy.

Yea, that was dumb. Leave it in the van.

It was real stupid on the cops part. Talk about violating rights.

baddog 10-24-2007 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 13282180)
Oh sorry, he DID have a license to carry a concealed weapon, but it's still pretty stupid. Maybe not idiocy.

Don't they have laws prohibiting guns within a certain distance from a school?

Phoenix 10-24-2007 01:32 PM

good...im tired of these people thinking they have any rights

federal reserve owns the usa...and thus the sidewalks..it is not public property

that guy is a hippy scumbag and needs to be put to death for trespassing for sure

G-Rotica 10-24-2007 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13282195)
Don't they have laws prohibiting guns within a certain distance from a school?

Within 1000 feet. Unless you have a concealed carry permit. Then you are only prohibited from taking IN to the school.

G-Rotica 10-24-2007 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 13282204)
good...im tired of these people thinking they have any rights

federal reserve owns the usa...and thus the sidewalks..it is not public property

that guy is a hippy scumbag and needs to be put to death for trespassing for sure

Well I can't argue the fed reserve point. But I do totally support the First Amendment. Freedom of the Press. We lose that one, we lose porn.

beemk 10-24-2007 01:40 PM

who did he say he called and got permission to be there? those cops are just asking for a lawsuit.

Phoenix 10-24-2007 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Rotica (Post 13282224)
Well I can't argue the fed reserve point. But I do totally support the First Amendment. Freedom of the Press. We lose that one, we lose porn.

all rights were given up

constitution and amendments etc are all just to keep people happy

time to get a hair cut and act like a good republican ify ou want to keep any freedoms

im talking to you baddog you long haired hippy



haha ok..fuck im just kidding everyone

death to trespassers though!!! that part im sticking to

long live BUSH

pornguy 10-24-2007 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 13282156)
Well, the fact that they continually asked him to go across the street and would not state a reason is bullshit. They should have known a law that they could claim they were enforcing in asking that.

The fact that the reporter had a concealed .38 handgun without a license is PURE idiocy.

1. Yes they have a law about carrying a concealed weapon ON school grounds, however it will be up to the court to decide if that sidewalk IS school property.

2. When a police officer asks you to move, WTF is wrong with someone that they want to argue with a guy carrying a gun???

3. In Florida, the Officers have a law they use called. " Failure to obey a lawful command." In that law is a trespassing section.

pornguy 10-24-2007 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Rotica (Post 13282206)
Within 1000 feet. Unless you have a concealed carry permit. Then you are only prohibited from taking IN to the school.

"School Grounds." He may lose that one.

Tom_PM 10-24-2007 01:45 PM

That really is sick though, irregardless of the gun thing. The gun was never mentioned whatsoever. He simply saw a reporter and cameraman and tried to make him leave. Thats not lawful. Hope this gets updated.

BTW: those kids were just like all the punks I remember from school, goddamn youth is wasted on young people...

sortie 10-24-2007 01:46 PM

I would not argue with the cops while I had a weapon on me regardless if it's totally legal or not.

Tom_PM 10-24-2007 01:47 PM

Hey, it's not surprising that people are confused and think that police are able to create laws just by saying something. But it's false.

Do you know you dont ever have to take a breathalizer? Do you know if a police officer tries to imply that you'll get in trouble if you refuse them a search of your car or house, that it's just a ploy? Most people dont even know that simple stuff..

pornguy 10-24-2007 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 13282288)
Hey, it's not surprising that people are confused and think that police are able to create laws just by saying something. But it's false.

Do you know you dont ever have to take a breathalizer? Do you know if a police officer tries to imply that you'll get in trouble if you refuse them a search of your car or house, that it's just a ploy? Most people dont even know that simple stuff..

No you dont have to ever take a breathalizer, but in states like florida, when you sign for your DL, you sign that you WILL, and to refuse you are giving up your DL.

And yes you have the right to tell the officer that he can not search your car. Then, if you have been rude, or he thinks you are hiding stuff, he will arrest you for something, and when he inventories the vehicle, you will get charged with any thing that is in the vehicle that is illegal.

You fuck with a cop, and if he has half a brain, he will fuck you silly.

G-Rotica 10-24-2007 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 13282330)

he has half a brain,

Unfortunately, that is most of them.

pornguy 10-24-2007 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Rotica (Post 13282345)
Unfortunately, that is most of them.

Those are the ones that you have to worry about. They may not be smart enough to be a normal human, but they know the laws and how to apply them to give themselves the upper hand.


Sadly 99.9 % of the laws were made so that the officer could use them to protect and help others. But they are often misused.

GAMEFINEST 10-24-2007 02:07 PM

lesson learned , dont argue with the cops ...

[ScreaM] 10-24-2007 02:08 PM

WTF that's so lame.

sortie 10-24-2007 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 13282288)
Hey, it's not surprising that people are confused and think that police are able to create laws just by saying something. But it's false.

Do you know you dont ever have to take a breathalizer? Do you know if a police officer tries to imply that you'll get in trouble if you refuse them a search of your car or house, that it's just a ploy? Most people dont even know that simple stuff..

You'd be surprise at how many people do actually know this.
But these things work better in a vacum and not always so well at 1:am when pulled over on a dark road in the middle of nowhere.

If I had exercised all my rights when I was stopped by cops then I would still be in jail for being a smart ass and not just letting them look at something for 30 seconds.

bushwacker 10-24-2007 02:22 PM

When a cop asks you to move, FUCKING MOVE!! It's really not that hard.

Drake 10-24-2007 02:41 PM

Why were they asking him to move?

baddog 10-24-2007 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 13282245)
im talking to you baddog you long haired hippy

Just got home from getting a haircut about 15 minutes ago

tony286 10-24-2007 03:36 PM

the gun had nothing to do with it, they cant arrest the press.It will be thrown out.

sicone 10-24-2007 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 13282288)
Hey, it's not surprising that people are confused and think that police are able to create laws just by saying something. But it's false.

Do you know you dont ever have to take a breathalizer? Do you know if a police officer tries to imply that you'll get in trouble if you refuse them a search of your car or house, that it's just a ploy? Most people dont even know that simple stuff..

try refusing to take a Breathalyzer in Ca, the rest of your night and most likely next 3 days wont be fun ones

BannerAnt 10-24-2007 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bushwacker (Post 13282460)
When a cop asks you to move, FUCKING MOVE!! It's really not that hard.

surprised you havent signed up for the war

baddog 10-24-2007 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 13282288)
Do you know you dont ever have to take a breathalizer?

They don't have to let you keep your drivers license either

baddog 10-24-2007 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13282818)
they cant arrest the press.

ummm . . . . what?

Brother Bilo 10-24-2007 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13282818)
the gun had nothing to do with it, they cant arrest the press.It will be thrown out.

How does the gun have nothing to do with it? It's a felony what he knowingly did. Just because he's the press that gives him some kind of immunity to the law? Come on now.

StuartD 10-24-2007 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 13283001)
How does the gun have nothing to do with it? It's a felony what he knowingly did. Just because he's the press that gives him some kind of immunity to the law? Come on now.

I think what he means is.... they had no basis for the initial arrest, no reason to search him and therefore invaded his privacy to find the gun. No warrant, no gun charges.

Unless the initial altercation can be justified (giving a real reason to cuff him for standing on a public sidewalk), they'll likely throw out any charges involving a gun that they should never have found.

Tom_PM 10-24-2007 04:52 PM

Yeah I agree with all the "it may be your rights, but.." comments as well! And thats the thing with this video.. Even the police officer is SO well used to people just DOING it because he's a policeman and he said so, that when he was actually confronted with someone saying "But WHY?" he had no answer, lol.

I'm asking you to move.

Why? This is a public sidewalk.

Because I'm asking you to move to the other side of the road.

lol, oops! Someone needs a supervisor.. They need to be able to cite an ordinance or whatever the case may be, at least to cover the simplest question. Police are supposed to only enforce after all, not create or judge.. thats the other 2 branches of gov. jobs.

baddog 10-24-2007 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13283069)
I think what he means is.... they had no basis for the initial arrest,

hmmm, I watched the entire video and was unable to come up with that conclusion.

How did you do it?

baddog 10-24-2007 04:55 PM

and I seem to recall they said he was arrested for a variety of charges . . . I don't recall "standing on a public sidewalk" as being one of them.

StuartD 10-24-2007 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13283147)
hmmm, I watched the entire video and was unable to come up with that conclusion.

How did you do it?

So what was the reason for cuffing him then?

BoyAlley 10-24-2007 05:00 PM

The school didn't want the news crew out front of their campus to do a story about how much violence is going on. Imagine that, a governmental entity not wanting bad press?

They reacted by sending the police to bully them away.

The officers acted outside of their authority and the law by ordering someone to move from a public location, simply because a governmental entity didn't want to be embarrassed by the press.

Sorry, but that doesn't fly.

baddog 10-24-2007 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13283155)
So what was the reason for cuffing him then?

Well, I would guess primarily for failure to abide to a lawful command.

baddog 10-24-2007 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 13283170)
The school didn't want the news crew out front of their campus to do a story about how much violence is going on. Imagine that, a governmental entity not wanting bad press?

They reacted by sending the police to bully them away.

The officers acted outside of their authority and the law by ordering someone to move from a public location, simply because a governmental entity didn't want to be embarrassed by the press.

Sorry, but that doesn't fly.

I guess you know a lot more about Florida law than I do.

What was the cop referencing when he kept mentioning being within 500' of a school?

BoyAlley 10-24-2007 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13283185)
Well, I would guess primarily for failure to abide to a lawful command.

I would argue the command wasn't lawful. :2 cents:


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