as one of the few old timers who still post here, I have to ask
 

Are none of you business people embarrassed by today's antics?
I mean seriously. Are you THAT thoughtless when it comes to who you do business with?

If it doesn't blow over soon, might have to break out the ole ignore list!

the fact that trey hickey still makes money is all the proof needed to confirm, yes.... they are that thoughtless.

This business has changed a lot.

In some ways, in others, not at all.

I come here from time to time for a good laugh, watching the children play their games with each other. I wonder why the companies even hire half the lackeys they have. But, every now and then, I manage to get some serious work done.

hey 12dicks.... are you not the infamous 12clicks known for ripping off housands of webmasters running your pr click program? then doing a shady install program?

you have some nerve

LOL

btw, your program is a joke.. atleast thats what i have heard lately. conversions very bad... why not focus on your little program than comming here and giving your 2 cents?

Just because I am bored, I think as a side hobby, I am going to start putting up Anti-EpicCash sites... and promoting the fuck out of it, focusing on you. "See what a joke this affiliate program is and how much of a tool its owner is."

I bet I can get some great spots on Google as well as the sites of the people that don't like you already.


I don't know why I never thought of this before.

Sounds like fun.

when I first started posting here it was a no-no to spam images for the shooters. things have really changed.

guilty conscience little boy?

wasn't even refering to you but I'd say you running in here is a pretty good indication of where the truth may lay.:thumbsup

ampie, that is all fine and dandy, but you do not know how to get traffic bro. good luck with it, if you need any aavice, let me know bud

Actually, I know someone who will GIVE me free top (paid) spots on Google.

umm, its quite clear you ere throwing me in there with your idiotic post. little boy? is that what you say to everyone who says anything negative to you? where is the orglaugh? haha

you are so transparent ronnie.

you invented shaving from what I understand.. afterall you were the internet pioneer of the click programs and how to not pay them what they were owed etc....

i sleep great at night just like you do I am sure. after all, it takes someone without a conscience to do what you do.

sure you do bro, sure you do....

lets do it, cant wait to see it!!!

Yes they are, thats why most people here don't do business with you.

been there done that, i totally forgot about the click thing... still owes me money.. lol.. when i hit $1,800 without a single payout i should have known better, lmfao.. i am an idiot for hanging on... and i can only blame myself for such a stupid mistake..

yes, we all make mistakes.. and yes we are embarrassed.. i for one am embarrassed that i was screwed by you.. as it appears countless others here were as well..

We really need to look into programs before we blindly get fucked by bullshit programs like 12 clicks.. what a joke..

i do have to say, after screwing so many people it takes alot of balls to post in public like you do..

your whole topic is just ironic to no end... how fucked up are you?

please son, you're a simple thief who I slapped down. spin any fairytale you want.

There's a reason I do business under the same name I always have but you've shown up with a new one:1orglaugh

oh, and franck, dirty frank, batuss, and whatever other name you went by.
Do you really want to dredge up the fact that we threw you out of the program for promoting us on underage sites?

I mean, why keep changing your name in an effort to hide your past only to take shots at one of the guys who knows about your dirty little secrets?

Is it too late for a prime sig spot?

nah, I don't piss with losers anymore.
the story is an old and simple one.
guys who hide what they used to be come out to take shots at the guy who exposed them.
why do you think so few program owners post here anymore?

Most likely because there's nothing of substance for 'them' personally anymore - any serious question that would help a program understand an affiliate more, gets buried in 200 threads of 'hot pics' & 'crap' served in a multitude of forms heheh. Anyone they need to contact they either have direct details on their cell phone or one of their employees knows how to get in touch with them.

Basically - the quality level bar of this place has been brought down in order to increase the quantity/volume. It's a business - and has to remain profitable (although I don't think they were ever suffering financially).

As the 'primary' forum for this industry that has a broad audience in terms of how they promote (lets face it, any hour of any day, there's ALWAYS someone online) - I think they should INCREASE the quality by limiting who signs up & clean up the garbage that has infected the place.

The fact that anyone and everyone can come here and open an account - hide who they are all they long by signing up for new nicks means that you don't know who/what you're dealing with & unfortunately because of this, it limits the quality of the discussions on here.

I'm sure, as a program owner, if you knew that the target market on this forum would be serious programs & webmasters (doesn't matter the AMOUNT of sales they could bring but their business acumen) then you wouldn't mind spending a touch more for your ad space. Your program can help the serious up-and-coming programs & affiliate grow - and the serious up-and-coming programs & affiliates can help your program grow.


I'd much rather help someone one on one - even if it doesn't = to money - than shoot from the hip here and someone question my motives or try to bash me because I disagreed with them in some other thread.

That's just my :2 cents: Canadian - that is at par with the USD nowadays :(

It is out of control, What can I say

Why would anyone do business with you, a very well known scammer, is beyond me.

:2 cents:

excelllent post, very true.

Your entire post was spot-on, but I particularly like the last line in that paragraph.

:thumbsup

Thank you :)

because the business people here know the difference between you and you're silly posts and me and my actual business.

I'm still not sure how my people spending hours tracking down the 3 seperate checks we sent you to pay you your $25 for 6 months of traffic constitutes scamming but then, I don't know of any business person who pays you any mind either.

Dirty Franck

Its a sad day in GFY history when I dont come here enough to know what all the drama is about..

Nor do I care to take the time to look and find out.

There was a time where creating drama was fun around here. No body did it better.

But either Im getting too old to enjoy it now days, or the shit around here just makes my balls itch now days.

Either way I dont really care. Not sure if its sad or just what ive or this place has become.

I have better shit to do with my time.

BP4L

So far in this thread there is no one here that knows what business really is about.

Just cuz you send traffic to programs or operate a program does not mean you are a business man by any stretch, or even know real business.

I do not think even one of you has any education close to a BA in Business, let alone any real education to begin with.

I have a masters degree in Health Care Finance.

But my health aint so good boss.

Not saying one needs to have a Business Degree or anything but it certainly would help alot of people in this industry.

Especially ones that apply the term like a priest holding a Bible and never openned the fucking book yet still holds sermons.:1orglaugh

Guess its a steady thing in the industry, sad fact most are simple uneducated morons.

I love morons, especially ones the spew business rhetoric everywhere like they are an expert...

But I am an expert.

only idiots like you think having a BA in Business counts towards something.

NO.

You are a survivor and just had a knack for making good calls:)

Except when it comes to Gambling, but thats debatable to:thumbsup

Did something happen? Sorry I was at the bank.
Buisness and GFY maybe your expeditions are confused 12 clicks

Stop bumping old ass threads wtf...

As someone who has a college degree (not in Business), I can tell you that it is one of the worst degrees you can get. Most guys coming out of school with one just end up doing telemarketing. Look at your list of most succesful businessmen in the world. Half didn't even go to college, a bunch more didn't major in business. Business classes teach you how to work for someone else.

I just basically go here because of those people that I know personally or that I regard sensible.. well unfortunately there is not that many of them posting here - true.

But it happened to me that I got a very interesting contact (well it's not the 10+ a day bullshit posters / .. Juicy that's not meant on you) that I could help out somehow and that might prove to have value in the future.

Plus, I believe I will be able to get some traffic once the web is finally set up.