Fact: rogerV woldnt be shit today w/out me.
 

1. I gave him his start in adult back on 1996 as a fluffer for our gay exclusive sites.

2. I paid his rent aslong as he agreed to not have his fag lovers spending the night worrying the neighbors that gayville has taken over the neighborhood devaluaing the properties. ofcoarse he did and I lost money on the sale of that property.

3. His kid is not allowed to see him because he beat his ex and she has a restrainging order on him.

4. He thinks making a site $9.99 a month and paying affiliates $25 per sale will some how be profitable one day.

5. He thinks paying per click was a sure way to profit w/out checking logs and haaving cheating detection software inplace, that scanning pages with human eyes was enough LOL

6. reselling stolen email lists like ccbill, pythin, CE, paycom etc etc, all the lists that have been hacked and sold over the past years, was asure way to gain trust amongst the spammers. what did this cause? other spammers selling eachother the same lists over and over LOL talk about some pissed off spammers. and he wonders why his host went down so many times.


love ya roger.

eat shit you nobody.

sig spizzle!

First off I have never had $9.99 sites so I'm not sure where you get that from.
Second the reason the pay per click program didnt do well at first was because we were only buying US and canadian traffic and the system was counting hits from everywhere even countires we couldnt proccess. it was a programmers fuck up that i did catch right away. once it was fixed it did well.

I could go on and on since you have no clue what you are talking about only hearsay. but its not worth my time.

Answer me this if I didnt get you funded and backed by a trusting company.
would you be successful today? who knows right?
fact is I gave you the ability to become successful. You can think whatever you want about me it doesnt hurt my feelings at all.

And everyhting your saying is a lie. when I have time I will prove them all trust me.

Role models, you two are not.

ok so you admit that all you did was introduce me to Ian right?

thanks for proving yourself wrong and me right.



you HAD nothing todo with kmy success.

I could have ran it into the ground like you did, however i ran a tight ship and we were very proffitabl very fast.



you look so stupid now roger.

go away.

go fuck one of your little 18yr old club whores.

I think RogerV has a better case that GFY made Pimpdog successfull than he did because he put him in touch with someone to loan Trey the money.

How much money was loaned ? If it was 100K + yeah I would think that Roger played apart in Trey's start. You not going to find very many people out there willing to shell out big bucks for people they don't know and are unproven to start porn sites. If it was a smaller amount of money, 10 - 20K etc than chances are Trey would have made the money himself or found someone else.

If you are trying to say that you are responsible for his success because you hooked him up with his investor, I thnk that is stupid. If it was a large amount of money I think the most you could claim is that you helped him get started by putting him in touch with the right person. Regardless, however someone got the cash to get started, that has nothing to do with their "success". 18 out of 20 people handed money to start with will fail.

How successful was epiccash in it's best days 1000 joins a day???

Not only did I get him funded he used our accounting and employeees plus all the companies knowledge in starting up a program.
I started 6 programs before he even had one. you think he learned it all on his own. no I was on the phone with him for hours everyday for weeks.
then he turned on me like he does everyone and disrepected me.

For all I know he might have done well. but when he was looking for help on GFY I told him to contact me and I brought him into the company to get backed.

I bet if GFY still has the history you will see our post

hiiiiiiii i miss evry1

I was given 6k and a few resources, like a book keeper to do checks and bank stuff andd an admin. I hired my own programmer and sales reps.

ive already admitted roger introduced me to Ian. the man with the money. the puppet master. the same puppet master that drove you out of PK.

fact.

you let me use all of your resources?

I used Lia and Ehan for bookeeping and admin work.

I paid for my own sales reps and programming.

i took ZERO advice from you, because you are a shady bitch and cant be trusted unning a program. your history speaks for itself.

I ran epic from day 1. I made the decissions. period.

get off your high horse roger, you are a joke.

you are starting to sound like Kfizzle

I miss you too Juicy

close, and that was way after roger was gone and onto other things... it was right around when roger was fired from pk. still , at the time roger had nothing todo with epic. I wouldnt even speak to him. and pl,enty will testify to that fact. any pk employee ccouldnt stand roger or working for him, and I didnt have to put up with his shit and i didnt.

roger is unstable and doesnt make good business decisssions at all. which was why he was booted and i took his place.

but the damage was already done by him, pk got ssued becuase of roges fuckups when he was running the program.

U see Bush on tv?

hello what fight about here?

:1orglaugh

that was just to own 50% your not counting the money to build the program and the pps payouts till it profitted etc. which you said took about 6 months

the programmer was working with us at the time and our programmers where hoarding there work and made it difficult for him to learn our system so you took him over, another company resource.

To be honest I'm over this I dont really care. I was just talking shit cause you have a big mouth and are telling people lies about me

Here's a hint RogerV.. You need to play the game Trey's way... i.e. Far less defence and more offense. He went on the offense and made you completely forget about the bet that he won't take you up on.

this photo make happy you be friends

http://images.foren-city.de/images/u...527453_152.jpg

Dude I wasnt even in the office since 2001 brian, carol and Ian ran it.

for all I know some employees might have been talking shit cause they were hourly.
you think your employees didnt talk shit about you.LOL please

You are so right:thumbsup

I dont think he will take the bet cause he knows he is lying

Hey John you should come over and take pictures with me of my boat. houses, art and car etc.

you live in Tampa:winkwink:

imust have missed something.

what bet?

explain the bet and maybe ill take it.

i honestly dont know what bet you are referring too.

the reason it was difficult for him to learn was because your shaving tools were impossible to figure out and fix becuase too many ppl were catching it.

so he left and I took him to program an honest program that didnt need those tools. dont forget i had pk switched to nats to end that nightmare you caused over there.

why would i take that bet?

this shit happend years ago.

he could have rebounded since then and bought these things. mended his relationship with his ex to see his kid etc.

you want me to enter into a bet based on something that happend several years ago.

yea right.

hahaha are you reall true? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

God you are a nut, Stop posting that shit!! :321GFY

Well regardless of whether or not he "rebounded", either the statements were true at one point or not.. He seems to be claiming some of them at least were NEVER true. So one of you is lieing.

yep you are 100% correct.

and if you knew him personally and me personally. you wouldd know who was lying.

almost all the pk employees came to epic.

that speaks volumes in itself.

I never got anything repo'd etc.

I resigned from PK and moved on quietly till I rebuilt and created PornoPushers.com and our TGP's etc.

I didnt want to announce my resignation because I didnt want people to think PK or I were having problems. so we decided to keep it quiet. Nothing more just didnt want false rumors to go around. Like the ones you are spreading now

they were always there LOL I left where else would they go they needed a pay check.

maybe everyone in seattle was upset because I was hiring in tampa and wanted to move the opperations here. HMMM could be. the overhead was to high there.
You have no idea what went down or they are lying to you.

None of them are true and I can prove all of them 100% no prob.

so if he wants to take the bet I'm down cause its all lies.

I never got my Car and Boat repo'd
Never had a restraining order against seeing my daughter or whatever he said
Never got Fired from Pornkings I resigned because the Parties didnt see ye to eye on things etc. No biggy I moved on and started over.
I dont Rent anything.
and so ON

whats happend to you? did you start ssnorting coke again or what dude?

you are pathetic and a fake.

go away you little pissant.

go push your porno to a 10+ sales a day.

you can do it!


you did it with PK!

You two at it again?

http://lonestartimes.com/images/2006...nald-trump.jpg

ADG

I gotta admit, that is pretty impressive to go from 6k to what you've done.
WG

Pick your top site in Epiccash and I wil with PornoPushers lets buy traffic and see who converts the best. or any other type of bet that can be monitored

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