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Funbrunette 07-03-2007 08:17 PM

Sicko, I saw it...My opinion on it!
 
Thumbs up! :thumbsup

There's 2 things I refuse to talk about or voice my opinion on, Religion and politics. However I will make an exception...This movie was a master piece! A harsh look at reality.

Sicko boldly and brilliantly challenges entrenched American attitudes about capitalism. Although some scenes are devastatingly heartbreaking and may bring you to tears (I'm a huge suck), Moore's sense of humour and ability to entertain are as strong as ever. He often combines laughter and tragedy in the same scene. While Moore always wears his views on his sleeve, he also takes a step back to let people tell their stories or allows historical clips to speak for themselves(those are FACTS). In the case of Richard Nixon, Moore happily says almost nothing, letting the former president be condemned completely by his own words.

The climax was a trip to Cuba. Moore is often criticized for exaggerating or manipulating facts, but there is always so much truth at the heart of his films. Sicko shows Moore at his very best.

I'm hoping this will open eyes of people who have the power to make changes! :2 cents:

notabook 07-03-2007 08:30 PM

I think I'll go eat a pizza now. That post made me hungry.

MediaGuy 07-03-2007 08:31 PM

Yeah I'm really looking forward to this one... though I don't know why.. it's just going to make me smack my own forehead and feel like everything's going down the drain and there's nothing I can do about it lol

Quagmire 07-04-2007 05:41 AM

Saw it and enjoyed it. As long as you don't treat the film like a documentary its worth watching.

Porn Farmer 07-04-2007 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire (Post 12701939)
Saw it and enjoyed it. As long as you don't treat the film like a documentary its worth watching.

Um, it is a documentary. :1orglaugh

bobby666 07-04-2007 07:52 AM

those that have the power to make changes- want no changes - they have everything

baddog 07-04-2007 08:36 AM

Why do Canadians always think Moore is always right?

Quagmire 07-04-2007 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Porn Farmer (Post 12702263)
Um, it is a documentary. :1orglaugh

No it isn't. He's pitching his own biased opinion which excludes it from the documentary label. You can't editorialize a subject and call it a documentary. :thumbsup

polle54 07-04-2007 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Porn Farmer (Post 12702263)
Um, it is a documentary. :1orglaugh

No it works with an issue that exist but there are used fictive situations and the issue is not looked at objectively.

Hence it is not a documentary - or at least not a good one.

but it's a good movie that enlighten some real interesting things.

Brad 07-04-2007 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bobby666 (Post 12702625)
those that have the power to make changes- want no changes - they have everything

Actually that's not true. What the ruling class does not have is the majority, even though they pretend that they do. The numbers will at some point prevail and to a certain extent we are beginning to experience that in China.

Bryan G 07-04-2007 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12702821)
Why do Canadians always think Moore is always right?

Why do Republicans always think he is so wrong?

Look he has an opinion. Obliviously he is one sided this is what makes the movie interesting. Take both sides of the story and make up your own opinion. The truth is somewhere in the middle :2 cents:

baddog 07-04-2007 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Adult Lounge - Brad (Post 12702843)
Actually that's not true. What the ruling class does not have is the majority, even though they pretend that they do. The numbers will at some point prevail and to a certain extent we are beginning to experience that in China.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Grapesoda 07-04-2007 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Funbrunette (Post 12700002)
Thumbs up! :thumbsup


The climax was a trip to Cuba. Moore is often criticized for exaggerating or manipulating facts, but there is always so much truth at the heart of his films. Sicko shows Moore at his very best.

:

when Castro got sick they brought a Dr in from Spain... that should sum up Cuba medical for ya....

Brad 07-04-2007 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12702821)
Why do Canadians always think Moore is always right?

Is that really a hard question to answer?

I think a better question is why Americans don't appreciate what he is doing to raise awareness on very important issues, preferring instead to fight to the bitter end supporting a system that has obvious flaws that affect millions of citizens in the very country that claims to be the leader of the free world.

baddog 07-04-2007 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Adult Lounge - Brad (Post 12702864)
Is that really a hard question to answer?

I guess it is since you have not seen fit to answer the question.

directfiesta 07-04-2007 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire (Post 12702839)
No it isn't. He's pitching his own biased opinion which excludes it from the documentary label. You can't editorialize a subject and call it a documentary. :thumbsup

You need to contact these people urgently, to let them know of their mistake :

http://www.google.ca/search?q=sicko&...ient=firefox-a
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386032/
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809723348/info
Sicko Is Socko - TIME
Richard Corliss takes a look at Michael Moore's latest, controversial documentary

http://movies.aol.com/movie/sicko/26778/main


Geeez, all this idiots are wrong calling it a " documentary " ...:1orglaugh

Evil Chris 07-04-2007 09:00 AM

Baddog is speaking on behalf of all the Ann Coulters out there. hahaha

Brad 07-04-2007 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12702852)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Laughing at that just means you've never read a history book. That's fine with me, laugh all you want.

Brad 07-04-2007 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12702878)
I guess it is since you have not seen fit to answer the question.

um, ok....Canadians identify with Michael Moore because his views are in line with what the majority of Canadians believe. I'm surprised you didn't notice that the Euros agree with what he has to say too.

RawAlex 07-04-2007 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Adult Lounge - Brad (Post 12702974)
um, ok....Canadians identify with Michael Moore because his views are in line with what the majority of Canadians believe. I'm surprised you didn't notice that the Euros agree with what he has to say too.

As a Canadian, I often find Michael Moore a little overdone and a little too much into grandstanding. That being said, I most often tend to agree with his positions, and I tend to feel similar "outrage" as he seems to have for things.

His opinions and views don't match most Americans, which is sort of why Americans should pay more attention. Sad to say, but America isn't always right. Perhaps considering another point of view would be a good idea once in a while?

baddog 07-04-2007 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 12702926)
Baddog is speaking on behalf of all the Ann Coulters out there. hahaha

And you are speaking on behalf of the Funbrunette's out there?

baddog 07-04-2007 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Adult Lounge - Brad (Post 12702964)
Laughing at that just means you've never read a history book. That's fine with me, laugh all you want.

So, it is your contention that human rights in China are improving significantly?

baddog 07-04-2007 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Adult Lounge - Brad (Post 12702964)
Laughing at that just means you've never read a history book. That's fine with me, laugh all you want.

So, it is your contention that human rights in China are improving significantly?

_Richard_ 07-04-2007 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12702821)
Why do Canadians always think Moore is always right?

what is this question supposed to mean?

Ie: what are you implying?

What has michael moore said that you would disagree with? Socialized healthcare? It isn't a new prospect, and done right, it can significantly increase the standard of living for basically everyone.

I find it odd that people keep on forgetting that the poor always significantly outnumber the rich. It is a very dangrous thing to forget.

Brad 07-04-2007 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12703032)
So, it is your contention that human rights in China are improving significantly?

No, not at all. China is not concerned with human rights at this juncture. They are concerned with progress and nothing more just as the western states once were as well. My point is that numbers are power...China is a good example of this and so is (to a lesser extent) what was experienced in the 60's in the Haight-Ashbury area of SF. Not to mention all of the examples in Africa and South America.

Brad 07-04-2007 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Sexbankroll (Post 12703067)
I find it odd that people keep on forgetting that the poor always significantly outnumber the rich. It is a very dangrous thing to forget.

I already said that in this thread :thumbsup

ServerGenius 07-04-2007 09:40 AM

the problem is the people who have the power to change things won't.....they're
benefiting from the system as it is else nobody would be interested in work in
politics

baddog 07-04-2007 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Adult Lounge - Brad (Post 12703111)
.China is a good example of this and so is (to a lesser extent) what was experienced in the 60's in the Haight-Ashbury area of SF.

Now you have piqued my interest. What do you know about Haight-Ashbury in the '60's? Were you there?

I was laughing at your comment that "The numbers will at some point prevail and to a certain extent we are beginning to experience that in China."

Just how many numbers do they need to reach before they will prevail?

J. Falcon 07-04-2007 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire (Post 12701939)
Saw it and enjoyed it. As long as you don't treat the film like a documentary its worth watching.

What the hell you gonna treat it like then?

J. Falcon 07-04-2007 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 12702926)
Baddog is speaking on behalf of all the Ann Coulters out there. hahaha

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

J. Falcon 07-04-2007 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12703008)
And you are speaking on behalf of the Funbrunette's out there?

Oh, good comeback :(

D 07-04-2007 09:55 AM

I dig on the flick, too.. it opened my eyes, and flipped my view on the state of healthcare in the U.S.

American't aren't impotant in this regard. Check out the candidates coming up next year - a good deal of them touch on healthcare in some regard.

Personally, I think John Edwards is the man best positioned to bring real change to this country - especially when it comes to healthcare... but go with what you feel.

woj 07-04-2007 09:59 AM

It was an interesting flick, obviously a bit biased, but worth seeing...

Brad 07-04-2007 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12703143)
Now you have piqued my interest. What do you know about Haight-Ashbury in the '60's? Were you there?

I was laughing at your comment that "The numbers will at some point prevail and to a certain extent we are beginning to experience that in China."

Just how many numbers do they need to reach before they will prevail?

I was not even alive during the 60's but have read about it. I don't think it is necessary to have experienced something first hand to understand it and to learn from it. My point is that prior to the hippie movement the area had a lot of crime and was a poorer area. When the hippies took over the area, violence dropped to almost zero and money started to come in through tourists. Now the area is obviously somewhat of a historic tourist trap because of the influx of a larger group of people.

I don't think there is an exact number that will determine success or failure in China. But I think the fact that China currently has roughly 1 billion more people (and represents about 20% of the world population) that in the US speaks volumes for what they are capable of doing now that they are focused on growth and economic prosperity.

baddog 07-04-2007 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Adult Lounge - Brad (Post 12703207)
I was not even alive during the 60's but have read about it. I don't think it is necessary to have experienced something first hand to understand it and to learn from it. My point is that prior to the hippie movement the area had a lot of crime and was a poorer area. When the hippies took over the area, violence dropped to almost zero and money started to come in through tourists. Now the area is obviously somewhat of a historic tourist trap because of the influx of a larger group of people.

Oh man . . . I don't even know where to begin. Suffice it to say, you don't know WTF you are talking about.

MandyBlake 07-04-2007 10:26 AM

i can't wait to see this movie.
when my sister comes down to visit we're all going.

tony286 07-04-2007 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Bryan (Post 12702849)
Why do Republicans always think he is so wrong?

Look he has an opinion. Obliviously he is one sided this is what makes the movie interesting. Take both sides of the story and make up your own opinion. The truth is somewhere in the middle :2 cents:

The funny part is they all cry about MM when there is over 2000 hours a week of right wing radio tv on a week.

xmas13 07-04-2007 10:32 AM

Why do porn webmasters love Michael Moore? He is on dope just like you, thats why.

xmas13 07-04-2007 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Adult Lounge - Brad (Post 12702974)
um, ok....Canadians identify with Michael Moore because his views are in line with what the majority of Canadians believe. I'm surprised you didn't notice that the Euros agree with what he has to say too.

If Canadians had one voice, they would have one party, you fucking Communist.

xmas13 07-04-2007 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Bryan (Post 12702849)
Why do Republicans always think he is so wrong?

Look he has an opinion. Obliviously he is one sided this is what makes the movie interesting. Take both sides of the story and make up your own opinion. The truth is somewhere in the middle :2 cents:

Yeah yeah yeah. G F Y man.


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