after the last couple years. who today thinks Lars is a stand up guy?
 

do you trust him?

Do you trust your traffic to him?

Do you honestly think you get $105 per sale?

After zango and the content theft etc rumors thrown around by many, who do YOU beleive. Lars or the masses?

Just because he has stupid jats and poorly made suits to wear at shows, does this give him the right to ruin our industry further?

who do you support?

Lars, or a better online pornography institution?


you decide.


Lars sucks.

I'm jealous of stand-up people.

Bastards.

You know what? I do. From what I know about the guy, absolutely stand up.

I like him. He seems like a cool guy the times I've spoken with him.

Plus any guy that white who can rock a fur coat is okay by me.

what I don't get was, how did he end up getting AFF, from way back, he just had a couple sites on some small affiliate program, then the next thing I know he's running the hottest biggest proggie on the net.. I missed part of the timeline.

Hey one day Kobe is playing basketball in high school, next think you know he's pulling up to the Staples Center in a Bentley. Take equal amounts of talent, hard work and luck and anything's possible.

It's amazing the money and traffic that torrent/warez sites bring

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I know this might get me some backlash, but I respect you more than Lars. While you may act like an asshole (whether it is an act or real) I haven't heard anyone say you steal from people.

you said it in your sentence.

he is 'running' it.

he owns nothing of AFF.

aww, i am feling all warm inside homie ;)

Lars is the "face" of Cams.com/AfF on the webmaster boards, he is the branding.

Lars is a "bros", which I think is the secret code word for "guy that fucks you up the ass for every cent you are worth, but buys you a beer at the show".

I am just not sure which is greater at this point: His greed or his arrogance.

pretty sure he is a 10% owner of both.

I think despite all the accusations on AFF them going from a good program to a superstar was when they came up with the GEO ads, I wouldn't use em till I saw that, I was using my own geo ads till then for other stuff.

Also them forcing people to keep sending traffic to keep getting rebills helped em too.. :mad: :disgust :Oh crap

im getting 105 per sale from em

ohhhh...

see I could have sworn when they announced him running it a couple years back, it was a "he bought into em" deal.

I don't spend enough time not working and hanging on the boards to keep track of which nics own what and which ones are just $10 an hour whores for their masters.

so easy to forget that 99% of the attitudes here are just the porn versions of 9 to 5 cubicle suit and ties and don't actually own shit and live check to check. suckers :1orglaugh

I thought he only was part owner of cams.com, not of AFF.

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You're kidding right... jeez this place has a short term memory... Let's all remember that Trey happily sold exit traffic to those ransomware scumbags and when called out about it gave a Lars type reply. Effectively saying that he didn't give a shit that people were getting fleeced for $100 a pop, nor did he give a shit what his affiliates thought because at the end of the day he was making bling off the deal.

Lars is a Top Notch kind of guy!

and he got rid of Zango, so all is forgotten

I think there are many views from people about Lars....mainly because of his position in the adult industry and the companies he is associated with who are successful...i dont know Lars that well but as much as i do and met him once at the smashbucks dinner at Universal Studios area during webmaster access, from what i saw he seemed like a gentlemen....

what I have learned from this thread is Time heals all wounds LOL

i was not familar with that.

yeap you learned a lot. Fuck as many people as you want and just wait sooner or later after you buy them enough drinks or they need something from you they will forgive and forget.

You forgot smarts in his (Lars) case. If you/we had the know how to implement what he did without actually alienating the big players of the industry(because no matter how much we may, or my not like him he did something smart)are you telling me you wouldn't do it?

Now I'm not saying that all of them like him they may, or they may not, but I bet you they respect his business sense. Just for the record I don't agree with all the scandal surrounding him, nor would I do any of it, but you have to respect the balls on the guy.:2 cents:

My guess is that within a year this will become industry practice, like it or not that is what I see happening.

we sold traffic to a place that had an option system. it was not spyware. it didnt take over your pc. it was an opted in software company that hid nothing from you. you had to click 'YES" or 'OK" to download it.

we dont do shady shit. we sold an exit console to a company that might not have been 100% to your liking, but it was 100% legal. thats all that matters. we didnt fuck affilates or surfers. that choice was up to the surfer.


and this has nothing todo with zango and the methods they used to steal traffic from typeins for our sites and many other programs sites.

you sure are a retarded fuck arent ya?

whatchu talkin about willis

I don't dislike you personally Lars. We would prolly find ourselves to be kindred spirits in many ways (I grew up surfing waves long before surfing the net, and my hair is longer than yours ever was, etc).

To some extent I understand your marketing - you go where the traffic is.

AFF is a part of the adult industry, and a very profitable entity, by most accounts. Granted, organizing the adult industry is somewhat like cat herding, but I see companies with resources like yours as having the potential to take a major leadership role in battling pirate sites, which in turn would both improve your standing in the community and potentially increase your profits.

If you were to do so, I think you would garner tremendous support within the legitimate webmaster community, which might even offset the traffic you get from dealing with illegitimate sites.

Since we both operate in the Bay Area, I would be more than willing to sit down with you/your lawyers to map out a plan for a self-supporting non-profit that would take a leadership role in combating such organizations (I was a corporate executive and a political activist long before entering the adult arena, so I have some ideas about what it would take).

Also, I know what legal battles you went through with your P2P music download company - you expose yourself to similar woes when you conspire/support sites that illegally steal others' content.

If you want to meet and discuss things, just let me know...lunch is on me.

ADG Webmaster

I appreciate your offer and will consider it

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That is a Magic 8 Ball response if there ever was one... :winkwink: :1orglaugh

Send me an e-mail if this is true, and let's meet and talk:

webmaster (AT) asiandivagirls (dot) com

ADG Webmaster

Oh please.. There was tiny little fine print on "some" of the ads... It basically fucked the surfer over if they installed it and didn't pay... And it made it a nightmare for the majority of people to uninstall. It was very shady regardless of being legal, just like spam was legal... You knew it and didn't give a fuck because they were paying you plenty of dough. All you did was help line your pockets and help push more surfers away from surfing for porn because they often get fucked over.

Hey.... didn't you used to spam as well?? Aren't you an ex-con? Don't you admit to shaving your affiliate sales?

Try and spin it all you want, but anyone with a brain knows you're full of shit.

Pot meet kettle.

nice to meet you kettle, im pot!

Trey, you may be a lot of things, but I don't believe naive is one of them. WebmasterDirect's ransomware did hijack someone's computer and used deceptive install methods just like Zango does now. Do you really think anyone would click a button knowing their future surfing was going to be flooded constantly with popups and the only way to stop them was to pay $99 for something they had no interest in?

It was a 100% shady and with them getting negative exposure all over the web and all the heat from the feds, their webmaster ransomware/install affiliate program was shut down less than two months after being exposed on here. If you were in fact naive and didn't realize at the time all that the install did to someone's pc, you might want to convey that cause your stance of high morality now is complete bullshit.

I have never talked to the Guy ever, But AFF Has been good for me, My sites are 100% clean and AFF Makes me a bit of Cash so its all good.

It seems to me that a lot of people my be jealous of lars, just my opinion thats all. :2 cents:

i do not recall ever saying or trying to come off as having high morals.

im in the fucking porn business.

I am in the lowest of the low along with all of you when it comes to morality.

I simply said we didnt steal traffic like lars.

is that any clearer?

maybe the company we sold out exits did in some way ( never was proven and they were neve charged with it and in th USA everyne is innocent until proven guilty) i dont know. either way, its of no consequence, this thread will be gone by mid day and forgotten and ppl will forget that i am admitting right now that i suck little 16 yr old dicks for a living.

meanwhile aff is paying people that rip off your content ..

classic shit..

I could afford to pay you 110 per sale if im also hiring my cousin vinny to rob your house :)

child porn has been around for ages so has email spam , but i dont see either becoming "industry standard" simply because less reputable companies delve into these areas..

Its only "industry standard" because your not a porn site. so it doesnt hurt your business to pay people that rip off PORN sites.

Why would sponsors advertise on a site thats giving there content away for free.

Usually where there is smoke, there is some fire.

That said, Lars has always been pleasant to me.