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just a punk 04-26-2007 05:36 PM

Freedom osf speech in US and EU? Hmm...
 
There are very serious disorders in Tallinn (Estonia). About 2000 citizens protest against dismantling of monument to Russian soldiers who was fighting against Nazi Germany (as far as you know Estonia is the EUROPEAN country which officially supports fascism and praises Estonian SS veterans who killed over 100,000 of Jews during WWII)

So guys. Did you hear anything about it on CNN/FOX/Euro News? Is that you call a freedom of speech? :disgust

WarChild 04-26-2007 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 12318298)
There are very serious disorders in Tallinn (Estonia). About 2000 citizens protest against dismantling of monument to Russian soldiers who was fighting against Nazi Germany (as far as you know Estonia is the EUROPEAN country which officially supports fascism and praises Estonian SS veterans who killed over 100,000 of Jews during WWII)

So guys. Did you hear anything about it on CNN/FOX/Euro News? Is that you call a freedom of speech? :disgust

Well you're not being prevented from saying it. As far as I can tell nobody is preventing any American news agency from reporting on this. Freedom of speech is not a guaranteed press pass. Seriously, smarten up.

just a punk 04-26-2007 05:41 PM

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/storie...04/27/011.html

IllTestYourGirls 04-26-2007 05:43 PM

you mean the same Russian's that raped killed and plundered Estonia during ww2?

just a punk 04-26-2007 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 12318332)
Well you're not being prevented from saying it. As far as I can tell nobody is preventing any American news agency from reporting on this. Freedom of speech is not a guaranteed press pass. Seriously, smarten up.

So there is a freedom of speech in every country, which has an access to the Internet right? So what's the fuck someone here told me there is no freedom of speech in Russia? There is also Internet in Russia and it's not restricted/fildered like in China.

just a punk 04-26-2007 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 12318347)
you mean the same Russian's that raped killed and plundered Estonia during ww2?

Raped killed and plundered Estonia during ww2??? Are you crazy man??? As far as I know the only ppl. who raped killed and plundered Estonia during ww2 were the guys from Estonian SS group. They killed ALL Jews (over 100,000) even before the German army come there... Learn history man, or at least listen what says official Israel about that times. They know for sure who raped killed and plundered them in Estonia during ww2...

BTW here is an example of Estonian monument to the Estonian "heroes":
http://www.ihr.org/webpics/estonian_waffen_ss.jpg

And no one cares to remove it...

Congrats to the EU guys, you just got a very good Nazi neighbor, but your shitty governments keep silence about it.

just a punk 04-26-2007 05:57 PM

http://www.stormfront.org/whitehisto...s/estluft.jpeg
Above: Estonian volunteers in the German Luftwaffe receive decorations, 1943. Note the Estonian arm flash on the right hand uniform sleeve.

Ackeric 04-26-2007 05:59 PM

It was in the NY times about three weeks ago. you should not all your news from the tv

he-fox 04-26-2007 06:03 PM

this thread has a dumb title

warlock5 04-26-2007 06:04 PM

excuse me, but what the fuck does this have to do with freedom of speech in the US?

just a punk 04-26-2007 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ackeric (Post 12318416)
It was in the NY times about three weeks ago. you should not all your news from the tv

Not weeks ago! The serious disorders in Tallinn just happened TODAY!

just a punk 04-26-2007 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warlock5 (Post 12318445)
excuse me, but what the fuck does this have to do with freedom of speech in the US?

Aren't CNN and FOX the US media? It was important enough for CNN and FOX to wail about four and a half demonstrators that cries "Freedom to Chechnya!" just a few years ago. But now mass disorders is Tallinn is "nothing special" to tell about. Right?

Ackeric 04-26-2007 07:06 PM

Quote:

Not weeks ago! The serious disorders in Tallinn just happened TODAY!

I know they did have a piece about the plans to remove it. This was not suprise

nikooo 04-26-2007 08:41 PM

I don't like this thread.................

Pleasurepays 04-26-2007 08:47 PM

since when is a 2000 person protest somewhere in the world supposed to be headline news in the USA?

moron.

just a punk 04-27-2007 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 12319058)
since when is a 2000 person protest somewhere in the world supposed to be headline news in the USA?

moron.

I'm not talking about the US headline news. I'm talking about total silence in the western media.

There is something like a stating of civil war in Estonia - police and army sent to Tallinn, Estonian soldiers of Russian nationality do not want to take a weapon and some even desert their military units) There are mass disorders Tallinn, entrance to the capital is closed etc. Course it's nothing to tell about on world's news media, because it's not a 3-ppl march of Chechen "rebels" as it was very popular to show 10 times a day by CNN/FOX and EuroNews just a few years ago.

Course when this situation in Estonia turns into a real civil war with many victims even the CNN will be "dare" enough to tell about it.

BTW, why do you signed your message "moron", is that your second name, or even the first one? Moron Pleasurepays or Pleasurepays Moron?

LiveDose 04-27-2007 11:03 AM

That was back in the last millennium right...

Pleasurepays 04-27-2007 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 12322052)
I'm not talking about the US headline news. I'm talking about total silence in the western media.

There is something like a stating of civil war in Estonia - police and army sent to Tallinn, Estonian soldiers of Russian nationality do not want to take a weapon and some even desert their military units) There are mass disorders Tallinn, entrance to the capital is closed etc. Course it's nothing to tell about on world's news media, because it's not a 3-ppl march of Chechen "rebels" as it was very popular to show 10 times a day by CNN/FOX and EuroNews just a few years ago.

Course when this situation in Estonia turns into a real civil war with many victims even the CNN will be "dare" enough to tell about it.

BTW, why do you signed your message "moron", is that your second name, or even the first one? Moron Pleasurepays or Pleasurepays Moron?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe...eut/index.html

if you spoke better english, i could make fun of you. if you speak russian.. feel free so i can spend a few minutes explaining why you are irrelevant and that there is no "news" anymore on major networks. its called "infotainment" and no one cares about a protest until people are getting killed.. otherwise its just a group of unhappy people.. like the other 6 billion who all have something to bitch about on this planet.

pocketkangaroo 04-27-2007 11:17 AM

First, this has nothing to do with freedom of speech. You're pissed about an editorial decision by the news not to make this a prominent story. As for it not being covered:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...hpid=sec-world

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6599937.stm

http://news.bostonherald.com/interna...ticleid=197158

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/...ap3661934.html

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...d/4755172.html

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/w...a-russia-.html

And about 100+ other major news publications in the US and UK.

stickyfingerz 04-27-2007 11:27 AM

In other news.. my cock is slightly chaffed.. :Oh crap

Webby 04-27-2007 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12322187)
In other news.. my cock is slightly chaffed.. :Oh crap

That is interesting... this is the second thread I've noticed today that the new parrott term, "my cock is chaffed" is used. Did it take long to learn that?? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

It's prob to much fucking with Japanese schoolgirls or jerking off over your pedo marketing conversion rates :1orglaugh

stickyfingerz 04-27-2007 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby (Post 12322217)
That is interesting... this is the second thread I've noticed today that the new parrott term, "my cock is chaffed" is used. Did it take long to learn that?? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

It's prob to much fucking with Japanese schoolgirls or jerking off over your pedo marketing conversion rates :1orglaugh

Still below 1:70 thanks for asking!!

How is our fat sweaty gray haired balding ass boil from Costa Rica doing today? How is your questionable business going?

Btw you accuse me of trolling, yet you are the one that follows me about the board accusing me of pedo shit. Cunt. :1orglaugh

just a punk 04-27-2007 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 12322083)

April 27th. Wow, seems CNN is really fast LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 12322083)
if you spoke better english, i could make fun of you.

I don't know such a language at all, so please make fun of yourself, kid and don't forget to visit a school at least a few times a month :1orglaugh

Webby 04-27-2007 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12322250)
Still below 1:70 thanks for asking!!

That's nice - pleased the "little girl fucking" sites are converting well - tho hardly a surprise when marketing to pedos and much as expected. :thumbsup

You cock still itching Daddy? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

stickyfingerz 04-27-2007 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 12322338)
That's nice - pleased the "little girl fucking" sites are converting well - tho hardly a surprise when marketing to pedos and much as expected. :thumbsup

You cock still itching Daddy? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Eventually you'll step over a line... :food-smil02 :food-smil02

Webby 04-27-2007 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12322354)
Eventually you'll step over a line...

I know exactly where the "line" is (and this has nothing to do with your whining about GFY rules) - the problem is you don't.

You purvey/promote sites which market pedo fantasies with portraying "little girls fucking" and too dumb to know they are contrary to USC 2257 - even in TN :1orglaugh :1orglaugh (and in most countries of the western world) What bit do you not understand???


PS You want me to pull the previous threads up with your bullshit??? *lol*

stickyfingerz 04-27-2007 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 12322396)
I know exactly where the "line" is (and this has nothing to do with your whining about GFY rules) - the problem is you don't.

You purvey/promote sites which market pedo fantasies with portraying "little girls fucking" and too dumb to know they are contrary to USC 2257 - even in TN :1orglaugh :1orglaugh (and in most countries of the western world) What bit do you not understand???


PS You want me to pull the previous threads up with your bullshit??? *lol*

You should really use that multi celled brain.. 2 I guess? Tenacity.

pornguy 04-27-2007 12:09 PM

You need to understand something about the press in the US. it is all about money, and right now, the new presidential race is more important, and brings more money than 2000 people bitching about something in a small country that most of the world could not locate on a globe.

Webby 04-27-2007 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12322426)
You should really use that multi celled brain.. 2 I guess? Tenacity.

I'll assume from that that you do understand and admit to pandering to pedo fantasies and contravening laws :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

There sure is something ironic/sick in a 30 something "supposed" adult with a young family pandering to the word's sicko pedo human waste. But what ya expect from a spineless wannabee with no moral fibre :1orglaugh

NTM 04-27-2007 12:24 PM

lol, fuck the russians.

i think i am going to frame this on my wall


http://www.coranix.com/killers/hitler.jpg

NTM 04-27-2007 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12322250)
Still below 1:70 thanks for asking!!

How is our fat sweaty gray haired balding ass boil from Costa Rica doing today? How is your questionable business going?

Btw you accuse me of trolling, yet you are the one that follows me about the board accusing me of pedo shit. Cunt. :1orglaugh

you are still a scumbag selling cp looking content to pedos.

just a punk 04-27-2007 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NTM (Post 12322539)
lol, fuck the russians.
i think i am going to frame this on my wall

You better frame those ones:
http://www.republicansareidiots.com/...and_Hitler.jpg
http://www.republicansareidiots.com/images/heilbush.jpg
http://www.republicansareidiots.com/..._is_a_Nazi.jpg
http://www.irregulartimes.com/heilbush.jpg

Webby 04-27-2007 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 12322600)

Nothing to do with this thread.... just think that's damned funny :1orglaugh

"Rummy" with the usual stupid grin on his face -awesome :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

ADL Colin 04-27-2007 12:46 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,268998,00.html

I don't see the "freedom of speech" issue. This is not headline news in the US because:

1. What, one person died? Not much of a story for something happening on the other side of the globe.

2. Most Americans have never even heard of Estonia

3. A judge decided today that Larry Birkhead Can Leave the Bahamas With His and Anna Nicole Smith's Daughter

Now, check out the BBC news website.

Story #1: "US holds senior al Qaeda figure"
Story #2 "Turkish President Vote Challenged"
Story #3 Something about soccer; errrr "football".

Webby 04-27-2007 12:48 PM

[QUOTE=ADL
I don't see the "freedom of speech" issue. [/QUOTE]

Thread headline is kinda misleading. Agree... not exactly a "freedom of speech" issue.

stickyfingerz 04-27-2007 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTM (Post 12322554)
you are still a scumbag selling cp looking content to pedos.

People who cant separate fantasy from reality need to find a new line of work imo..

Webby 04-27-2007 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12322766)
People who cant separate fantasy from reality need to find a new line of work imo..

Your humble opinion is totally irrelevant - as it is on most things.

The relevant issues are the laws relating to pedo-pandering/marketing. You are not only contravening US law, but also the laws of most western countries (and a few others). This is not my humble opinion - it is a fact. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You pander to pedos and market sicko fantasy content portraying "little girls fucking" and actually boast about it and post stupid comments about your "school girl fantasies" in an attempt to defend it. You are both sick and stupid :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

frank7799 04-27-2007 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 12318298)
There are very serious disorders in Tallinn (Estonia). About 2000 citizens protest against dismantling of monument to Russian soldiers who was fighting against Nazi Germany (as far as you know Estonia is the EUROPEAN country which officially supports fascism and praises Estonian SS veterans who killed over 100,000 of Jews during WWII)

So guys. Did you hear anything about it on CNN/FOX/Euro News? Is that you call a freedom of speech? :disgust

WWII is a liitle more complicated, Iīm afraid. The "Hitler - Stalin - Pakt" (for more information read here Hitler Stalin Pakt) devided Eastern Europe into Russian and German parts. When the Russians invaded Poland in 1939 the Germans agreed that all Baltic States becamepart of the Russian sphere of influence. Wide sections of the population were deported to camps in Siberia and Central Asia. Thousands tried to escape in little boats across the baltic Sea to Sweden. Thatīs why there were many partisan groups and thatīs why many of them joined the German Army when Germany declared war to Russia btw. the Soviet Union.

Thatīs not all of history , of course. But maybe youīll see why they did remove the monument. It has nothing to do with them being National Socialists.

12clicks 04-27-2007 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 12322052)
I'm not talking about the US headline news. I'm talking about total silence in the western media.

we just don't care.

rotowa85 04-27-2007 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 12318298)
There are very serious disorders in Tallinn (Estonia). About 2000 citizens protest against dismantling of monument to Russian soldiers who was fighting against Nazi Germany (as far as you know Estonia is the EUROPEAN country which officially supports fascism and praises Estonian SS veterans who killed over 100,000 of Jews during WWII)

So guys. Did you hear anything about it on CNN/FOX/Euro News? Is that you call a freedom of speech? :disgust

firstky i would like to point out the fact that although estonia is a european country it isnt in the EU, so the freedom of speach laws that the European Parliment and the European court of justice set down dont actually apply to estonia.
Also as many ppl here have said the news channels had the right to show the story but apparently chose not to, also i ask concidering CNN and FOX are both american companies what would them not showing it have to do with european freedom of speech


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