The US will eventually ruin the Internet
 

Conservative legislation, lawsuits, two tier system, etc.. The US is going to be the Virus that eventually ruins the net. My latest rant comes from

http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=17511

what the fuck, you can be sued for what you say on gfy? :\

why should you be able to make defamatory statements online if you can't offline? or can you read?

*ouch* fucking hell!

america has already ruined food and the english langauge though. no need to worry.

oh no! now I may be sued for defamatory against america!!!

We don't have laws banning you from being a stupid fuck, yet. Actually, we seem to thrive on that. You're A-OK!

How does that ruin internet?

“Some court have said sites can remove copyrighted material and child porn without fear of incurring liability akin to that of a media source — that’s an area of the law that is changing,” Obenberger said. “But the minute a site like GFY starts editing out postings for defamation, it opens itself up to liability if it misses a defamatory post.”

I tried to tell board owners this before and they laughed at me.

I have to agree with you

sssshhhh.... the adults are speaking.

I also think its not the us its the lawyers they smell blood in the water lol Calling someone a thief does hurt their rep and shouldnt be said unless able to back it up.

I'm just saying we can look forward to the net being over litigated and a tool for useless politicians to attack with more and more laws.. I guess I'm just missing the old days, when I could call someone an idiot on a forum and not have to worry about a legal fight

unless "the good ole days" for you are about 3 weeks ago... these lawsuits have been going on since the 96 or so.

Idiot!!









:winkwink:

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

dont sue me!

edit: i live in canada, i dont think you can :winkwink:

I'm aware of that, I just think they are picking up steam and will continue to do so until we are hit with a rash of "hot coffee" equivalent litigation.

picking up steam? because you found an article?

first things first... you will need batteries, flashlights, blankets, water proof matches, bottled water, canned food and a bunker in the mountains. once you have insured your own safety and survival and are reasonably sure the world won't implode before your 18th birthday, you can then turn your attention to saving the planet with cut and paste articles backed up with useless opinions, awkward assumptions and crappy analogies.

Yes, you are correct, that is the only article or case I have seen since 96, oh and yes, you are on roll tonight, my bunker is being built as we speak.

I see it now a new market forum liability insurance, man some one could get rich with that lol

Even if that wasn't directed at me, see you in court. :1orglaugh

:)

actually a good idea lol,

don't reporters get libel insurance, i think they do.

Something like that I forgot the name of it , I have a friend he is a news videographer, his insurance runs about 5 grand a year and a big chunk of it is that.

just because you live in disney world and the land of enchantment, don't pretend that you can't see an obvious problem with someone posting your real name and calling you a child pornographer and pedophile all day long to be archived, linked to and spread across the web for rest of your life.

but then again, if you're digging a bunker in a swamp in orlando... "the rest of your life" shouldn't be too much longer

I'm sorry, let me clarify for those with a low IQ

I understand the need in extreme cases for litigation, I am venting about the rash of "hot coffee" litigation I believe is going to be on the rise.

I'm sorry, I forget to spell everything out word for word two or three times for the retarded.

What is this eventually stuff? They already have.

What will happen is the internet will decentralize, and there will be many internets... all seperate from eachother and probably with few if any crossover links. Which, honestly, might be for the better.

Too many things depend on it to get rid of it completely, but its going to split apart soon. The writing is on the wall.

Yea, I don't see that is being a good thing. I do agree with yuo though, it's comming.

using the term "hot coffee litigation" as you are, also indicates that you have no clue what that case was about and why she was awarded what she was. defamation is defamation. you posted a link about a defamation lawsuit. a person made liabelous and defamatory statements (repeatedly) with the intent of causing harm to the person that was the object of those statements won a lawsuit. its not like its something totally abstract and senseless like a guy trying to sue a hamster because his wife beats him.

you made the statement "The US will eventually ruin the internet" and you cannot support that statement with anything other than calling me retarded.

suprised your mom isn't using NetNanny to keep you off of sites like this.

You shouldn't have more protection because you are behind a keyboard rather than face to face. I have seen no end of miserable fucks that will post all sorts of shit on the boards, and then they are all smiles and chuckles at conventions and buying you a beer.

It is clear from this judgement that stuff is actionable. There are some people out there that need to wise up.

Alex

If you think that the US is going to ruin the internet, then you haven't been paying attention.

The alternative is that the UN runs it, and they have already said that they want to censor it to buggery (ie. you won't be able to criticise left wing or Muslim leaders, etc).

I think alot less bullshit happens on boards where you have to use your real name. People arent as brave when not hiding behind a nick.

Agree with your orginal post Xanx.

After reading the article referenced it occurs to me that since GFY DOES limit some speech by banning those that make accusations like shaving without proof, may be setting them selves up to be in-line of suit!!

So the point: Is GFY accepting responsibility for all that is said on the board now? That seems to be the direction of the law per the article.

That sucks too,

I'm not saying I have a solution though, I don't. I just don't like the way it's headed now

A girlfriend called me recently to go watch TV right away. She knows I work online and I often post in forums. It was on Dr. Phil of all shows.

It was about some site for women to talk about their ex and vent. Many posted pictures of their ex and bashed them. The female forum OWNER was being sued by some guy for something that a poster (one of his ex) had said about him.

The suit was on the basis that she (forum OWNER) had control to delete posts that were "inappropriate". Those that were left without being edited or deleted, damaged his reputation if anyone ever did a search for his name and it affected his career. Both sides made good arguments but it sounded like Dr. Phil and the audience were cheering more for the guy than the forum owner. The vast majority of the audience are women, so go figure...

It was still ongoing so I have no idea what will happen.

Missie

i find myself agreeing with you all the time recently. i am starting to fear its a sign of the apacolypse :)

The UN can't run a pay toilet.

exactly,

and why should they? I don't think they should have too, but it's comming =(

Answer is sue before you get sued......

I support that law, but the judgement in that case($11.3 million) is fucking ridiculous.

GFY would be kinda boring if this takes hold. The drama would really fall off. I think you see the board changing now with some being more cerful about what and how they say what they post.

canada has these laws too, even if you live in canada you can be sued by an american company.

overseas, etc.