New Site. Looking to stay away from 2257
 

I'm looking into a new site and have a few ideas, but I want to have absolutely nothing to do with 2257. I wanted to check with all the webmasters and more informed individuals, to see what kind of ideas you might have for a somewhat adult site, that would not need any 2257 compliance. Erotic Story Site perhaps? Help me out please. Thanks
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why do you wanna stay away from 2257? you gotta deal with it period

Good luck. I been asking that for a month...still no answer.

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Not necessarily. There's tons of adult-oriented things that don't require 2257. Gambling, firearms, pills, etc.

pre 1995 pics or vids ...

UIf new regulation passes, it could be pre 1991 or something like that ...

Naturally, the pictures/videos must not be deemed obscene by community standards...

Thanks all for the replies, keep them coming. Thanks so much.

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Its quite simple, get a company in EU and forget about 2257 forever. Ask me how :)

Ok, how?

Yes, I would also like to know. You can post here or you can drop me a line at mdavinc @ gmail.com.

What if the pictures are non-nude or just topless? Like in a blog post, the actual pics on my server will be non-nude, but lead to a FHG of nude pics on the sponsors server. Then do we have to worry about 2257?

Except the nature of the content, question is where do you live? You have to comply with the laws where you live and your citizen laws, and you should comply with terms of your business relations (servers, sponsors etc.)

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My problem is that I live in the US. Which means that as a citizen I am bound to our laws. Even if I set up a company in Europe and have my servers offshore and not in the US, I still will have to comply with US law as I am a citizen of the US. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

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Come on, I know more people have ideas. Let's get this rolling. Theres got to be others asking about this.

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>>Even if I set up a company in Europe and have my servers offshore and not in the US, I still will have to comply with US law as I am a citizen of the US.

This is where you're wrong. US has no control over things that are going in EU. EU countries do not have to share everything with your INS or whatever its called now. All you need to do is to comply with local EU laws, which are rather simple. For example our porn law says "Don't sell or advertise porn to minors and don't sell anything illegal (best or kiddie)" Thats it.
Low taxes, no income tax for companies.
Access to your bank account via Internet (good security) and the option of sending bank wires anywhere in the world without actually going to the bank.
And of corse you get Visa cards too.

This venture is especcially good for US based designers, because you my friends are in the deepest shit ever, you are not allowed to feature paysite thumbnails in your portfolios without having the records on every picture you got there.

If you want, I can provide more details, hit me up on ICQ or email shimausa at gmail.com

Somehow, all of that sounds really, really illegal.

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What part of it is illegal?
Are you not allowed to have business outside the US?
When you're not in US, do you drive 35 mph in the cities and take the right lane in UK?

Have to disagree with you on that one. If I am providing content to US citizens then I am legally responsible. No matter if I set up a company in Europe or South America or wherever. As long as I reside in the US, I am responsible for the 2257 compliance.

Do you have a clue about 2257? Seriously, what you are proposing would get US webmasters in a world of shit. As long as you are located in the US, it doesn't matter where your "company" is located, you still have to adhere to the 2257 laws.

Yep, what he said.

Exactly, Thank you Slam. :thumbsup

Now thats interesting.
Please tell me how can US Goverment find out that you are linked to a company in EU? Thats one thing.

Secondly, I'm sorry, I don't care if you US buyers brake the 2257 law by buying this content, its their business. Put it right into the disclaimer, noone reads it anyway.

Legally you are an EU company. How can US Government sue you over this? For braking what law, excuse me? Forget about you being in US, you are dealing with that EU company firstly, and secondly EU company sells content to the buyers around the world. Your government cannot sue you, because may not be linked with an EU company (register it on your mother). And it cannot anyhow sue the EU company, because it doesn't brake any law in that particular country. So where is the catch?

If you live in the US you need to follow 2257. If you can understand it that is.

Back to the original question. For a new site that doesn't require 2257 an all text blog wouldn't be a bad idea if you can write some good, interesting text.

Look, I'm in EU. If I set up a paysite right now, I don't give a flying flip about 2257, because we don't have it.

If I buy your content, will I brake the US law?

If I start selling it tomorrow will I get sued by the US?

If I make money selling this content to US, will get in jail?

Ok, you have answered half of my question...what about non-nude pics? I'll use Raven Riley as an example. If I use a pic of her in a blog post where she is totally dressed, do I have to have 2257 on her? What if the pic links to a FHG where she is naked and sucking cock or something like that?

You do not seem to understand how 2257 works. No matter where I host and establish my business I am still under US jurisdiction because I am a US citizen, which give the DOJ the ability to arrest me because I have not comoplied with laws that are set forth in the US.

Having a European company has nothing to do with it. If I am a citizen of thie country and own a business that is in another country, I still must comply with the laws of the US. Isn't it great having all that freedom.

I might be completely wrong, but I assume that if your company in Europe is incorporated, it "acts" on its own as a legal person. You are just an employee.

Can anybody with a juristic background confirm/disprove that?

Look, I don't profess to be an expert of 2257...but I do know this much. You are right...YOU don't have to worry about it because you are in the EU. But, US webmasters do have to worry about it. No matter if our servers are in our bedrooms or in Japan, we still live in the US, and still have to comply with the 2257 laws.

I've read it, thank you.

Laws are made for these that don't know how to use it.
Question is, are you going to play by the rules all your life, or find a way to make a lot of 100% legal money :)

Good luck
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Exactly, you are a citizen in Europe. If I lived in Europe then there would be no problem, but since I reside in the US, I can not just up and start a business in Europe, being a US citizen, without complying with our laws. That is why your business is fine, since you reside in Europe. 2257 only applies in the US.