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pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-05-2006 12:25 PM

whats the most you ever paid talent / models for a shoot
 
the absolute max ever??

$600.00

NoWhErE 07-05-2006 12:26 PM

Some of my clients pay between 700-1000$/shoot. I know because I see the checks.

BT 07-05-2006 12:35 PM

damn my hookers are expensive:1orglaugh

johnshinil 07-05-2006 01:03 PM

2k per scene

Webby 07-05-2006 01:34 PM

Can be anything depending on the model pussyserver.

Some may not exactly be what you would call a "model" - just local talent and worth very little. A girl with a rep or some following can be *anything*.

Depends again on the country.. US is cheaper cos of dollar value, but eg EU is generally a little more. An EU "agency girl" could be averaging $1400, but ya can book her private at maybe $600. But hell.. some are only $200 etc.

Can't remember the exact figures, but one girl was...think either $12K or $14K, but that was only because she was booked up for 14 months and had several contracts running, done movies (Bond girl blah) and did a theater show each evening. (These type of models can't afford to do hardcore porn - but, well, sometimes do :) )

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-05-2006 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by johnshinil
2k per scene


wow thats through the roof im betting you produce some really high end content

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-05-2006 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
Can be anything depending on the model pussyserver.

Some may not exactly be what you would call a "model" - just local talent and worth very little. A girl with a rep or some following can be *anything*.

Depends again on the country.. US is cheaper cos of dollar value, but eg EU is generally a little more. An EU "agency girl" could be averaging $1400, but ya can book her private at maybe $600. But hell.. some are only $200 etc.

Can't remember the exact figures, but one girl was...think either $12K or $14K, but that was only because she was booked up for 14 months and had several contracts running, done movies (Bond girl blah) and did a theater show each evening. (These type of models can't afford to do hardcore porn - but, well, sometimes do :) )



whoooaaaaaaaa 12-14 K and I was just saing 2k was thru the roof wow ok that has to be top notch content.
I understand what you mean as far as price spectrum ( supply and demand)

but never knew the demand could be so high for models

something learned :thumbsup

Webby 07-05-2006 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver
whoooaaaaaaaa 12-14 K and I was just saing 2k was thru the roof wow ok that has to be top notch content.
I understand what you mean as far as price spectrum ( supply and demand)

but never knew the demand could be so high for models

something learned :thumbsup

Ah.. that high example was an exception pussyserver - the girl had a large following and we were using her "celeb status" to promote stuff and earn some dollars.

Other bit is... some of these girls are promoted beyond their "value" - eg.. another was ..think about $3K, but utterly useless - so bad, I hadly used any of that material.

Flip side is.. there are a number of decent models doing very nicely - was chatting with a girl recently, we knew her since she started, - since is still only 18, but started at 17 doing "normal modeling" and was asking how to do her accounts blah :-) Turns out she earned $470K in her first year in the biz - she's actually pretty good and a long way ahead of her. So.. some with a bit of talent can earn good money if they keep their straight head on.

boldy 07-05-2006 02:08 PM

3k-5k per shoot *see sig* :)

*edit* thats the cost for one shoot. Not purely the models.

Jace 07-05-2006 02:09 PM

I can't say I have ever paid over $500-600, but when we were out in LA just getting started it was pretty common place for producers to fight over who got our first scene....we ended up getting $4600 for one day work of fucking on camera....the second shoot was almost as good, arounbd $3200 for a few hours

those guys that always love getting the first scene will pay out the ass for all first timers

Dood 07-05-2006 02:33 PM

How many pictures on average can you get out of one shoot?

Jace 07-05-2006 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dood
How many pictures on average can you get out of one shoot?

when I am shooting I usually aimn for 5-7 sets per full day shoot if I am shooting amateur style, and 2 good sets per day when I am shooting high end glamour shit

Doctor Dre 07-05-2006 02:57 PM

A little bit over a thousand bucks...

The lanny barbie shot was expensive too.

cyberstar 07-05-2006 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
.... Turns out she earned $470K in her first year in the biz - she's actually pretty good and a long way ahead of her.

shit.. that's where all the money is!.. i'm quitting design and becoming a model! :upsidedow

Jace 07-05-2006 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
Turns out she earned $470K in her first year in the biz - she's actually pretty good and a long way ahead of her. So.. some with a bit of talent can earn good money if they keep their straight head on.

that really isn't that much if you think about it. My wife and I earned about $140k the first 4 months we were in the biz, and we only worked 2-3 days a week...if we had really pushed we could have doubled that easily in those 4 months, and if my wife or I had been willing to fuck other people who knows how much we would have made.

if a girl is hot and willing to work 5-6 days a week and can get that constant work, they can make upwards of $4-6k a week.

venus 07-05-2006 04:09 PM

I pay $1000 for a 2-3 hour shoot, the girl I am picking up at the airport tonight, I am paying her $1000 plus air and hotel

venus 07-05-2006 04:10 PM

BTW my post was for softcore stuff, not hardcore.

Jace 07-05-2006 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by venus
I pay $1000 for a 2-3 hour shoot, the girl I am picking up at the airport tonight, I am paying her $1000 plus air and hotel

you are very generous :)

sonofsam 07-05-2006 04:15 PM

600 for 1 day (8 hours)

max i ever paid

venus 07-05-2006 04:18 PM

I try to be, If I can make 10 times that off a shoot, might as well pay them enough to make them happy.

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Originally Posted by Jace
you are very generous :)


Jace 07-05-2006 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by venus
I try to be, If I can make 10 times that off a shoot, might as well pay them enough to make them happy.

i wish more people didn't live by the greed model

I know some guys that will shoot a girl and pay her $300 for hardcore, then turn around and use her on 2 dvd's and 2 websites.....messed up shit

scotty2hotty1111 07-05-2006 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by venus
I pay $1000 for a 2-3 hour shoot, the girl I am picking up at the airport tonight, I am paying her $1000 plus air and hotel

nice fair is fair :2 cents: :thumbsup

Webby 07-05-2006 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace
that really isn't that much if you think about it. My wife and I earned about $140k the first 4 months we were in the biz, and we only worked 2-3 days a week...if we had really pushed we could have doubled that easily in those 4 months, and if my wife or I had been willing to fuck other people who knows how much we would have made.

if a girl is hot and willing to work 5-6 days a week and can get that constant work, they can make upwards of $4-6k a week.

:winkwink: It wasn't so much the earnings Jace - it was just kinda surprising to see this young girl who really knew very little about marketing herself or the biz side and earning almost half a mill in her first tax year. Tho, she is an almost natural and very good for getting consitant quality images oozing with "personality" where that is called for. She is probably one of say five I've ever seen in my life that you are almost guaranteed of having a good shoot and will probably go quite far in the next 10 years or so (as long as she don't fuck up or get diverted - a common failing).

Jace 07-05-2006 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
:winkwink: It wasn't so much the earnings Jace - it was just kinda surprising to see this young girl who really knew very little about marketing herself or the biz side and earning almost half a mill in her first tax year. Tho, she is an almost natural and very good for getting consitant quality images oozing with "personality" where that is called for. She is probably one of say five I've ever seen in my life that you are almost guaranteed of having a good shoot and will probably go quite far in the next 10 years or so (as long as she don't fuck up or get diverted - a common failing).

i agree totally...I am always impressed when I see new young girls get into all this and do it right and not waste their money on silly shit and have nothing to show for it....99% of the girls always get diverted or fuck up

but if you go to LA and you are hot, the work just does come to you as long as you get into the biz with the right people behind you...shit, sitting 5 hours a day for 2 days in Jim South's office when you first enter the biz can be a investment that pays off $20,000 in 2 weeks

fl_prn_str 07-05-2006 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
she earned $470K in her first year in the biz


porn girls often embellish their gross income. if a girl gave that number to me i would want full financial disclosure (i.e., federal tax returns, bank statements and their CPA's number).

Mutt 07-05-2006 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

if a girl is hot and willing to work 5-6 days a week and can get that constant work, they can make upwards of $4-6k a week.

that doesn't last - unless the girl becomes a star - everybody wants to shoot the fresh off the bus ones - then the jobs dry up and the agent tells them it's time to do anal, double anal, IR etc -

girls get paid in LA by the sex act - doesn't matter what or who the shoot is for - a girl shoots a boy/girl scene for VIVID and is on set from 8am to midnight gets paid the same $800 she gets for a 2 hour shoot for some fake reality website.

Webby 07-05-2006 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace
i agree totally...I am always impressed when I see new young girls get into all this and do it right and not waste their money on silly shit and have nothing to show for it....99% of the girls always get diverted or fuck up

but if you go to LA and you are hot, the work just does come to you as long as you get into the biz with the right people behind you...shit, sitting 5 hours a day for 2 days in Jim South's office when you first enter the biz can be a investment that pays off $20,000 in 2 weeks

Something... dunno if it's the same with you. Rarely you will come across a girl and you get a gutty feeling you have "cream" there. Ya can do a shoot, or even just 10 off-the-cuff test shots and could start betting on the success rate?

I've only come across probably five at most who just could not go wrong (as long at the head had sense). The three "older cream" ended up doing movies (small parts), spent a good few years in exotic locations doing stuff swimsuit ads like dangling a swatch watch from their wrist for a month and getting paid enormous fees and one is now doing TV presentations.

Only my :2 cents: but ya can almost tell immediately that you got some talent to work with that is "special". The rest range from a complete struggle to "not so bad" :)

Webby 07-05-2006 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fl_prn_str
porn girls often embellish their gross income. if a girl gave that number to me i would want full financial disclosure (i.e., federal tax returns, bank statements and their CPA's number).

Some may - hell, little doubts they do! :winkwink: Na.. not talking about liars - we know this girl very well and some are friends who have no reason to lie.

Re "porn" - any girl with "real talent" - it's not a good idea for them to suck cock for porn shoots - they are far more earning potential than anything they can earn out of the adult biz plus a possible future career in other fields where being an "ex porn" model can be a problem :)

tony286 07-05-2006 06:46 PM

Looking at these numbers my $300 a g/g scene is generous considering it takes exactly 1 hour and that includes paper work.

Jace 07-05-2006 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt
that doesn't last - unless the girl becomes a star - everybody wants to shoot the fresh off the bus ones - then the jobs dry up and the agent tells them it's time to do anal, double anal, IR etc -

girls get paid in LA by the sex act - doesn't matter what or who the shoot is for - a girl shoots a boy/girl scene for VIVID and is on set from 8am to midnight gets paid the same $800 she gets for a 2 hour shoot for some fake reality website.

when we lived in LA, even though we only had sex with each other, we were able to get constant work because we were professional, on time and had a positive attitude...everyone always said that it would dry up and no one would use us more than once...we worked for Vivid and most other major studios constantly

but yes, when a girl isn't professional, doesn't show up on time and is a bitch, the work will dry up....as with any business, it is all in how you present yourself and how willing you are to work with others around you. if you make it a positive experience for all involved, you will never have to worry about work

and yeah, on the vivid note, we hated working for them, because it always meant that we had to be there by 8am and sit around to 4pm to get our scene shot

Jace 07-05-2006 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fl_prn_str
porn girls often embellish their gross income. if a girl gave that number to me i would want full financial disclosure (i.e., federal tax returns, bank statements and their CPA's number).

you can tell the bullshitters from the real deal very easily though....

Jace 07-05-2006 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404
Looking at these numbers my $300 a g/g scene is generous considering it takes exactly 1 hour and that includes paper work.

in goergia is it, but go to LA and you will laughed out of the room

supply and demand :)

and considering you will be making residual income off that girl for years to come, $300 just doesn't sound very good...LOL

Jace 07-05-2006 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
Re "porn" - any girl with "real talent" - it's not a good idea for them to suck cock for porn shoots - they are far more earning potential than anything they can earn out of the adult biz plus a possible future career in other fields where being an "ex porn" model can be a problem :)

well, you can look at it that way, or you can can see that porn is a fun and exciting career that if the cards are played right can lead to many years of substantial income from not only fucking on camera, but also starting web operations and getting beind the camera

Mutt 07-05-2006 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace
when we lived in LA, even though we only had sex with each other, we were able to get constant work because we were professional, on time and had a positive attitude...everyone always said that it would dry up and no one would use us more than once...we worked for Vivid and most other major studios constantly

but yes, when a girl isn't professional, doesn't show up on time and is a bitch, the work will dry up....as with any business, it is all in how you present yourself and how willing you are to work with others around you. if you make it a positive experience for all involved, you will never have to worry about work

and yeah, on the vivid note, we hated working for them, because it always meant that we had to be there by 8am and sit around to 4pm to get our scene shot

Ed Powers used to have a lock on the new girls for their first shoot from Jim South and I presume other agencies - how much did Ed pay for that if you know?

tony286 07-05-2006 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace
in goergia is it, but go to LA and you will laughed out of the room

supply and demand :)

and considering you will be making residual income off that girl for years to come, $300 just doesn't sound very good...LOL

First off I have actually a few porn stars on my site I paid that amount. I ve had girls whose rate is much much higher but they heard how truly painless,fun and quick my shoot is they did it. If they pay a girl 2 grand for anal but she is there for 6 hours , Im a better deal lol. As far as residuals, Im the one eating the cost of equiptment, schooling, server costs, processor costs, office rents. This isnt multimillion dollar motion pictures.

billywatson 07-05-2006 07:00 PM

Recently, on Spunkmouth.com, I shot Amy Reid...she's $2000, which is a double over the highest I'd ever paid.

I've paid some girls $1500 for a gangbang...5 dudes or more...plus all the male talent, so I guess that's the most - maybe $4000

Jace 07-05-2006 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt
Ed Powers used to have a lock on the new girls for their first shoot from Jim South and I presume other agencies - how much did Ed pay for that if you know?

actually, it was between Ed and Randy West for our first, Randy got our actual first scene at around $4600 and Ed got us for about $3500 or so

Webby 07-05-2006 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace
well, you can look at it that way, or you can can see that porn is a fun and exciting career that if the cards are played right can lead to many years of substantial income from not only fucking on camera, but also starting web operations and getting beind the camera

Sure.. it's another "niche" career - or more than one if they got the acumen to persue it.

Tho.. least from what I've seen - there does not appear to be a talent for involvement in net stuff as a biz. Very first model we ever shot - was decades ago - she did have a biz head and now operates one of the largest agencies in Europe for girls - tho turned into a really hard bitch with a permanent cigarette hanging from her mouth :winkwink: - but suppose that's what it takes to "control" girls.

E$_manager 07-05-2006 08:09 PM

what if she is a celeb? How much would you pay?

pornguy 07-05-2006 08:10 PM

150 an hour. 3 hours. 3 times.


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