TUTORIAL: How to set up a Paysite when you live in Canada
 

I get asked a lot how I set up my porn site from Canada, since Paycom and CCBill won?t process for you if you live in Canada. I?m not sure exactly why, but something to do with Visa and Canadian banks. Anyways figured I?d write a simple tutorial since I am getting tired of repeating the process to people :)

First off what you need to do in order to get processing for your site, is set up a company in the states. I recommend incorporating someplace like Delaware or Nevada, since there are a lot of incorporation companies based there to take care of your incorporation.

For my example, I?m going to suggest http://www.nationalbusinessinc.com/ since they are the only ones I have experience with, and Tana if I remember her name correctly was extremely easy to deal with.

Go to that site, and choose Classic Incorporation or LLC Package ($595)
But you also need an American address because visa requires the paysite domain, and everything else to be based in the USA, so go ahead and also get 1 Year mail Forwarding ($300). At this point, you will need to call the IRS and request your business Tax-ID. The tax-id is the longest part of this process because it takes 3-4 weeks to send it to you, because they aren?t allowed to give it to you over the phone if you are not an American citizen. There is a way around this however; you can buy an expired LLC from National Business Inc for an extra 500 or so I believe, I don?t remember. If you?re impatient like me, I?d opt for this. You can?t choose your company name if you do this option, but they will give you a list of available companies with EXISTING tax-ids, so you don?t have to wait for your tax id to come which takes 3-4 weeks.

Now that you have your new company, and your Tax-ID you?re ready to get set up with Paycom. CCBill I believe also requires that the company owner himself live in the united states, so that?s why I went with paycom, since they allowed me to just use my Address in the states, but scan my Canadian citizenship card for them as proof of ownership of the company.

Good luck

Some good advice for the good Canadian kids out there

Thread bookmarked... I've never have to go through this myself

About ccbill, we are processing with them in canada with no problems

Depends when you got setup with CCBill, i believe these new rules came into effect a year or so ago :2 cents:

We use ccbill as well.

If i'm not mistaken, you guys got set up with them 3+ years ago, right?

why not EU?

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Set up a second account with them in the past year.

They are third in our cascade though. Netbilling is our primary

EU is also another possibility, but at the time paycom wasn't available in EU...

Also i hear if you set up in EU you don't have to pay a 750 visa fee :2 cents:

also i couldn't find an incorporation company in EU that returned emails..

2% cb :)

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thanks for the good tutorial man. :thumbsup

What I don't totally understand is why CCBill requires your director to be a US resident to obtain Visa processing while Paycom does not...

Or just wait until the US invades you for your oil. Won't be long now, I sent W an email about it earlier. He was all fired up.

goooooood work sonofsam
hows julie blue

I been trying to get a date with her for years, the guy keeps turning me down and won't hook me up with her. Keeps all good things to himself.

'Bout time you got around to doing this, lazy ass hippie. :winkwink: :thumbsup

EU no 2257 if you have an EU company 2% CB......yes even if you don't live in the EU. :2 cents:

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Good guide Sam!! :thumbsup

On the EU.. was thinking the same thing DS.

I can't think of one valid reason why any Canadian guys setting up now would want to deal via US when ya got Paycom, CCBillEU, SegPay, Verotel and others in the EU and no 2257, VISA fees and little or no taxes if organized correctly.

I don't think it would be much work to switch ownership of my paycom account to an EU business would it?

could be very little work.. i'm gonna look into that :thumbsup

and like i said, i incorporated in the states cause i couldn't find a company in EU who replied to emails regarding setting up a business over there... so i didn't know what else to do.. oh well though, can easily switch to EU now :upsidedow

I'm in the process of setting up a BIG European hosting provider that will also
provide the service of setting up Legal EU companies together with a virtualoffice.

It will be launched half january :winkwink:

Hit me up when it's ready :thumbsup

I will.....thanks :thumbsup

Does a CCBillEU + Visa require your principal director to be somewhere in the European Union?

Also, does anyone know of a good solution, such as a registered agent service, that will act as your principal director in either the US or EU?

I see Gibraltar incorporations on an awful lot of WHOIS lookups. I think Gibraltar gives you access to CCBill EU and Gibraltar is quite friendly to foreign companies wanting to offshore.

The thing to remember if you are Canadian and want to try this in the US there is going to be constant bullshit when dealing with a US bank or the IRS because of the patriot act. Who knows how bad its going to get in the future.

Smart man. Netbilling is our primary too. Don't ya love em?

I would avoid the USA at all costs.

I will offer this option when I launch my project as mentioned above.
Launch date will be mid january 2006 :thumbsup

Gibraltar works but it's 1 of these places where alarm bells start ringing.
You might want to consider if you would want that.

Any EU based company would work....use it as a work company that provides
certain services for a fixed fee, pay some taxes and all is 100% legal without
drawing unwanted attention to your setup.

:2 cents:

Let me address a few things:

If you want to process Visa transactions with CCBill:

A) the business has to be located in a Visa region, US or EU
B) the principle has to be located in the same Visa region

It makes no difference on when you were set up, the above 2 requirements are only if you process Visa transactions

Go EU. ;))

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Yeah that's much better :thumbsup

going to be a nice setup for some mail friendly hosting

Well, I'm just stating that I see a huge amount of adult domains and sites registered in GB. There is probablly a good reason for it. I know CCBill EU is processing for them.

For Canadians reading this thread they might want to consider the EU option as incorporating in the US has a large amount of tax and legal consequences. Not only that, you can also expect constant political interference in your banking arrangments thanks to the patriot act.

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Contacting you now. I am interested in hearing more about this.

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How goes Gibraltar work when you still need your principle director to be located in EU as well?

I setup my UK company here:

http://www.jordans.co.uk

Hmm, the site's not working... ?