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European Lee 07-25-2005 07:54 PM
Andrew / Blue Design Studios - No Drama Here But..
 
Where did this layout come from?

http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/hp/...rs/3/main.html

Also, how comes ive never been shon it before? Thats actually not to bad.

Needs a few small changes but its definately a much higher quality than your other samples and its defintely 'workable'.

Regards,

Lee

BradShaw 07-25-2005 07:58 PM
Lee, you give gay guys a bad name acting like an idiot 24/7. Go suck some cock.

European Lee 07-25-2005 08:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BradShaw
Lee, you give gay guys a bad name acting like an idiot 24/7. Go suck some cock.
Weasle, this is a drama free thread, please keep it that way.

I just want to know where that layout came from as i have never seen it before and its actually a reasonable quality.

Regards,

Lee

European Lee 07-25-2005 08:18 PM
Andrew?

Any information from you on this please?

Id hate to think all this drama has been going on because you forgot to send me a link to the completed work :Oh crap

Apart from making you look foolish if that was / is the case, we could have both been spending our time on more productive things than GFY drama.

Regards,

Lee

pr0 07-25-2005 08:22 PM
http://www.samellis.net/mt/archives/images/wm3.jpg
http://www.seinfeld-fan.net/pictures...d_mickey_f.gif

BlueDesignStudios 07-25-2005 08:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by European Lee
Andrew?

Any information from you on this please?

Id hate to think all this drama has been going on because you forgot to send me a link to the completed work :Oh crap

Apart from making you look foolish if that was / is the case, we could have both been spending our time on more productive things than GFY drama.

Regards,

Lee
How about we keep it to one thread, i think everyone on GFY has seen enough drama:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?p=7851208

brand0n 07-25-2005 08:28 PM
an attempted back out to cover his slimey ass

quiet 07-25-2005 08:29 PM
just pay the fucking guy already.

BradShaw 07-25-2005 08:45 PM
Lee, stay away from the boards until you can get the cock our of your mouth.

I have done a lot of biz with the guys at Blue Design, they are good people. Although they may not smoke the pole like you.

Brad Mitchell 07-25-2005 08:51 PM
Anything to take the attention away from every other thread on this subject where he was owned. Most especially, the voting one that he asked for. It's obvious that his contempt for BradShaw is really just the manifestation of his lust for the success of Brad's business and the taste of his cock.

Brad

Platinumpimp 07-25-2005 08:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BradShaw
Lee, stay away from the boards until you can get the cock our of your mouth.
That might happen somewhere around Christmas 2008.

:1orglaugh

European Lee 07-25-2005 08:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell
Anything to take the attention away from every other thread on this subject where he was owned. Most especially, the voting one that he asked for. It's obvious that his contempt for BradShaw is really just the manifestation of his lust for the success of Brad's business and the taste of his cock.

Brad
I think you may be confusing me with Andrew Brad :winkwink:

Go read some of the replies in this thread..

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=495668

Then take a look who started the newest thread after that one :1orglaugh

I dont understand what te fuss is all about, Gary and I were the ones that got scammed with inferior design work, not Andrew :helpme

Regards,

Lee

Brad Mitchell 07-25-2005 08:55 PM
If Lee pays his bill to BDS or charity, I'll donate some money to charity. Problem is, I don't think any of us could trust that he paid anything to a charity unless he gave the money to someone we all trust... like BlueDesignStudios, to do it for him. LOL

European Lee 07-25-2005 08:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell
If Lee pays his bill to BDS or charity, I'll donate some money to charity. Problem is, I don't think any of us could trust that he paid anything to a charity unless he gave the money to someone we all trust... like BlueDesignStudios, to do it for him. LOL
Brad, no offence bro but id quit while you were ahead mate, you have no clue whats going on, just like 99% of GFY doesnt.

Would be a shame to ruin a friendship over something as simple as 'fake' drama on GFY.

Regards,

Lee

BlueDesignStudios 07-25-2005 08:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by European Lee
I think you may be confusing me with Andrew Brad :winkwink:

Go read some of the replies in this thread..

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=495668

Then take a look who started the newest thread after that one :1orglaugh

I dont understand what te fuss is all about, Gary and I were the ones that got scammed with inferior design work, not Andrew :helpme

Regards,

Lee

WTF? You said the work was 'perfect' and 'done' in early 2004.

Then you insisted on a GFY poll before you pay - yet another hurdle I have jumped in order to get paid - all GFY is waiting for is you to keep your half of the bargain & pay up

Brad Mitchell 07-25-2005 08:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by European Lee
I think you may be confusing me with Andrew Brad :winkwink:

Go read some of the replies in this thread..

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=495668

Then take a look who started the newest thread after that one :1orglaugh

I dont understand what te fuss is all about, Gary and I were the ones that got scammed with inferior design work, not Andrew :helpme

Regards,

Lee
I love Gary, if we're referring to GA.. he knows that. But this isn't about that... And I can honestly say that I haven't been able to read all of the threads and every post... but there's nothing that I've read from you thus far that seems right to me (been through 4 threads). Everything else aside, you asked for the designs to be posted and for a vote - both of which happened, and then after that you found another reason to not pay by asserting that they just recently whipped up a new design for you. I don't honestly believe that happened.

Brad

Brad Mitchell 07-25-2005 09:00 PM
I been sucked in by the drama. See, that's what happens when there's no good programming on TV over the summer. LOL

European Lee 07-25-2005 09:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios
WTF? You said the work was 'perfect' and 'done' in early 2004.

Then you insisted on a GFY poll before you pay - yet another hurdle I have jumped in order to get paid - all GFY is waiting for is you to keep your half of the bargain & pay up
Andrew, again, please make your mind up.

In one thread its 'over 2 years' ago, in another its a 'year and a half' in another its a 'year'.

Which is it? C'mon its not that hard to stick to decide on a timeframe and stick to it.

Damn, even Brand0n and Headless are capable of sticking to the lies they tell.

Regards,

Lee

Brujah 07-25-2005 09:01 PM
All the drama aside, If he wants to buy that design, why not just let him ? This one does look pretty good. Sell it !

BlueDesignStudios 07-25-2005 09:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell
If Lee pays his bill to BDS or charity, I'll donate some money to charity. Problem is, I don't think any of us could trust that he paid anything to a charity unless he gave the money to someone we all trust... like BlueDesignStudios, to do it for him. LOL
I don't want to receive a penny from Lee anymore after all his hate & drama

Brad, you have a solid reputation - I would like Lee to pay the funds through to yourself for you to pass onto charity, GFY knows they can trust you with this :)

BlueDesignStudios 07-25-2005 09:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by European Lee
Andrew, again, please make your mind up.

In one thread its 'over 2 years' ago, in another its a 'year and a half' in another its a 'year'.

Which is it? C'mon its not that hard to stick to decide on a timeframe and stick to it.

Damn, even Brand0n and Headless are capable of sticking to the lies they tell.

Regards,

Lee
WTF? you've got a new excuse now?? oh that's right, it's a new day, i forgot

a new day = a new excuse

do I need to post a timeline of all the events to help refresh your memory?

will that make you look better?

European Lee 07-25-2005 09:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell
I love Gary, if we're referring to GA.. he knows that. But this isn't about that... And I can honestly say that I haven't been able to read all of the threads and every post... but there's nothing that I've read from you thus far that seems right to me (been through 4 threads). Everything else aside, you asked for the designs to be posted and for a vote - both of which happened, and then after that you found another reason to not pay by asserting that they just recently whipped up a new design for you. I don't honestly believe that happened.

Brad
Brad,

Please read the threads then :winkwink:

This has ALWAYS been a 'quality' issue and, in the thread i gave you a link to above, many well known GFY'ers even state that the work was sub-par.

Here are a few quotes for you to recap though, i know you are a busy guy and dont have a lot of spare time..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalai lama
banners & main.html looks like it could use more work :error
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrthumbs
I agree.. woudlnt accept that work either
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brujah
I agree with you about the banners, and main. Doesn't look like the usual BDS quality I've seen in their portfolio and when others have posted samples.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
I have to agree that this isn't what I'd call "outstanding work".
The ideas aren't so bad ... but it seems like the guy who did the job isn't a pro and very experienced graphists ... did a lot of mistakes a lot of new graphists do .
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
The sites dont look like his other design examples
Quote:
Originally Posted by Relish XXX
I will agree that the main page and banners need work.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunni
not the best design from them for sure
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDoc
I'm not sure why people here though are bitching that you did something wrong by not paying them. If "you" aren't happy with the work and you didn't publish the work then you shouldn't pay for the work until you are happy with the work. Period..

I don't pay for designs unless I'm happy with the work. I don't pay an electrician for work if I'm not satisfied with his job. I don't pay the cleaning lady if she does a shitty job, I make her ass come back and then I pay her once the job is done correctly. This is how the world works, not the other way around.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Godsmack
I agree, does not look like their quality standard.. maybe it was outsourced? :-)
Quote:
Originally Posted by cherrylula
it looks stripped down.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rezdesign
looks like crap to me
Quote:
Originally Posted by chazer
It's not all that great design
Quote:
Originally Posted by MickeyG
I wouldn't pay for that shit either
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt 26z
LOL What total bullshit.

Webmasters choose a designer based on their portfolio.

If the end result isn't of the same quality level that their portfolio implies they are capable of, then it's a bait and switch.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BiggleJones
I really hate to say it, but I think Lee has a legit point about the quality of the design. I dont think the quality is up there with the rest BDS sites.
Quote:
Originally Posted by basschick
so they didn't use the colors you required, and we can see how grainy things are.

i dunno - i don't expect to pay for designs i don't like. plenty of designers have managed to meet my requirements, but if you make a design in a totally other color scheme, you can 100% expect that i won't be buying it.

i don't know the guy at blue, but i wouldn't have been thrilled with these.
Quote:
Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net
banner and main layout not that hot
Quote:
Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net
By looking at the navigation bar.. it seems outsourced... :2 cents:
Now go view the results of Andrews poll and see how many in that list i quoted voted for Andrew, even though they agree it was a shitty design they tried to palm off on Gary and I.

Although my name is the one being posted about, this doesnt just affect me, it affects Gary and ultimately, he is the one in charge of getting payments authorized, hence my comments about ruining a good friendship :winkwink:

Regards,

Lee

BlueDesignStudios 07-25-2005 09:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by European Lee
Brad,

Please read the threads then :winkwink:

This has ALWAYS been a 'quality' issue and, in the thread i gave you a link to above, many well known GFY'ers even state that the work was sub-par.

Here are a few quotes for you to recap though, i know you are a busy guy and dont have a lot of spare time..



Now go view the results of Andrews poll and see how many in that list i quoted voted for Andrew, even though they agree it was a shitty design they tried to palm off on Gary and I.

Although my name is the one being posted about, this doesnt just affect me, it affects Gary and ultimately, he is the one in charge of getting payments authorized, hence my comments about ruining a good friendship :winkwink:

Regards,

Lee

Lee there never was a quality issue until a few days ago

Why did you say the design was 'perfect' and 'done' in early 2004 if you were not happy with it?

You wanted a poll, and you got one. You lost. Pay up!

European Lee 07-25-2005 09:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios
Lee there never was a quality issue until a few days ago

Why did you say the design was 'perfect' and 'done' in early 2004 if you were not happy with it?

You wanted a poll, and you got one. You lost. Pay up!
Andrew, for about the 50th time of me telling you, there has always been a quality issue, do you even communicate with Wade?

Jesus.

Regards,

Lee

TDF 07-25-2005 09:12 PM
even if he pays he's still a cocksucker buisness wise.We will never forget

Brad Mitchell 07-25-2005 09:12 PM
I appreciate the compliment, Andrew. I'm just a passer through reading threads and making some posts tonight on that which has caught my interest... this being one of them. I don't have any intention on inserting myself in the middle or being a drama queen, I've simply commented on that which I have read so far. The only thing that has me confused at the moment is Lee's mention of Gary because I have always liked and respected him. Lee, I simply don't know you that well - and for the record I don't know the guys at BDS either. Everything here and in the other threads that I said was in all reality, completely impartial.

I guess, take that for what it's worth.

Brad

BlueDesignStudios 07-25-2005 09:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by European Lee
Andrew, for about the 50th time of me telling you, there has always been a quality issue, do you even communicate with Wade?

Jesus.

Regards,

Lee
I have no evidence of you bringing up any quality issue other than yesterday.

All I have is transcripts of you saying the design is 'perfect' and 'done' and you would get payment taken care of in early 2004

BlueDesignStudios 07-25-2005 09:14 PM
lee why do you create a new thread every time you get owned? why not stick to the poll thread that you requested and I started so people don't have to put up with seeing your name on their screen

Brad Mitchell 07-25-2005 09:18 PM
I see the other post now referencing the issue of quality, saying that was always the issue. I think what we're all wondering is there anything that could be done by BDS to make the situation right and have you pay the bill or is this just beating a dead horse? I don't know. I've bought a lot of design work before and paid for quite a bit even that I didn't like. Some of it was a result from bad designers, others was simply my bad direction.

I'm through - best of luck to everyone. Foo-Foo drinks are on me in Hollywood!

Brad

European Lee 07-25-2005 09:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios
I have no evidence of you bringing up any quality issue other than yesterday.
Thats my problem how? :1orglaugh

Just because you and your biz partner dont talk, that not my concern, other than Wade keeping you out of the loop on something that is obviously quite important to you, given all of the threads and posts you have made about this subject over the last '2 years' (is it?)

Regards,

Lee

European Lee 07-25-2005 09:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell
I see the other post now referencing the issue of quality, saying that was always the issue. I think what we're all wondering is there anything that could be done by BDS to make the situation right and have you pay the bill or is this just beating a dead horse? I don't know. I've bought a lot of design work before and paid for quite a bit even that I didn't like. Some of it was a result from bad designers, others was simply my bad direction.

I'm through - best of luck to everyone. Foo-Foo drinks are on me in Hollywood!

Brad
Have a drink or two for me Brad, we're heading up to Atlantic City for our own 'show' during Internext ;)

Regards,

Lee

BlueDesignStudios 07-25-2005 09:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by European Lee
Thats my problem how? :1orglaugh



Regards,

Lee

Well you see Lee - if you say the job is 'perfect' and 'done' in early 2004 & say you will make payment - WTF are you smoking when you post a year and a half later saying there was a problem with the quality?

European Lee 07-25-2005 09:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell
I think what we're all wondering is there anything that could be done by BDS to make the situation right and have you pay the bill or is this just beating a dead horse?
In all honesty, Andrew is beating a dead horse for the sake of it, no amount of 'revisions' will make up for the amount of BS fake drama he has caused over this shit.

He and his lackey were the ones who bought this to GFY sulling both Gary and my names, his loss ultimately, not ours :2 cents:

Regards,

Lee

European Lee 07-25-2005 09:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios
Well you see Lee - if you say the job is 'perfect' and 'done' in early 2004 & say you will make payment - WTF are you smoking when you post a year and a half later saying there was a problem with the quality?
Another time frame change Andrew? :1orglaugh

How many is that now? Have you even spoken to Wade about the 'quality' issue?

This was discussed, in depth, during the Internext show, you might want to get him to fill you in on the details of our show floor discussion, as it is obvious he hasnt done months later, for such an important issue, it seems :1orglaugh

Regards,

Lee

BlueDesignStudios 07-25-2005 09:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by European Lee
In all honesty, Andrew is beating a dead horse for the sake of it, no amount of 'revisions' will make up for the amount of BS fake drama he has caused over this shit.

He and his lackey were the ones who bought this to GFY sulling both Gary and my names, his loss ultimately, not ours :2 cents:

Regards,

Lee
drama? you're the drama queen, how many different excuses have you tried to avoid paying the bill?

LEE YOU SAID THE DESIGN WAS

PERFECT

AND

DONE

IN EARLY 2004.


HOW COME YOU DON'T ADMIT TO THIS?

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW STUPID YOU LOOK?

Brujah 07-25-2005 09:25 PM
Egos get in the way. Buy the design. Sell the design.

Brujah 07-25-2005 09:26 PM
What's the actual site URL ?
http://www.europeanwebmasters.com is a PPC page and is for sale ?

BlueDesignStudios 07-25-2005 09:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brujah
Egos get in the way. Buy the design. Sell the design.
Bingo - Lee doesn't want to admit he's made some very bad choices

He should know his best option is to admit he is wrong (i'll accept his apology) - pay the bill (to charity) and move on

European Lee 07-25-2005 09:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brujah
What's the actual site URL ?
http://www.europeanwebmasters.com is a PPC page and is for sale ?
Yes, we took the site down a few months ago as we are consolidating our resource network.

We have more sites going offline in the next few months to so that we can devote our time to the high grossing sites more efficiently :)

Regards,

Lee

BlueDesignStudios 07-25-2005 09:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brujah
What's the actual site URL ?
http://www.europeanwebmasters.com is a PPC page and is for sale ?
yes lee is now selling the domain (and the design we did for him and never paid)

can you believe this guy? selling a design he never even paid for!!


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