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DarkJedi 02-05-2005 02:45 AM

DIRECTNIC's PHONE NUMBER ?? NEED IT ASAP
 
anyone got it ?

media 02-05-2005 02:48 AM

Check your credit card statements...

DarkJedi 02-05-2005 02:59 AM

motherfuckers, how do they do this ?

i had everything locked down and some fucker stole one of the domains.

what the fuck ?

DarkJedi 02-05-2005 03:01 AM

and of cource everyone is out for the weekend.

fuck.

emthree 02-05-2005 03:01 AM

Doubt you'll get anyone @ this hour. :(

BluMedia 02-05-2005 03:03 AM

fuck that sucks. Man this domain stealing is getting out of control. Login and find that contact info page, they have their number on there but it is not there 24 hours.

Mark

DarkJedi 02-05-2005 03:04 AM

yeah i got the number but both registrars work monaday thru friday.

how the fuck do they do it ? i had it locked.

DarkJedi 02-05-2005 03:07 AM

See, i don't get this shit.
My security was set to HIGH.

Dig this:
High Security - *** Recommended: This will place all domains on lock status. Lock status will prevent any transfers from occurring. You may still transfer your domains, but you will need to first unlock the domains individually using the Domain Registry Status Manager link below.

So, how did they steal it ?

BluMedia 02-05-2005 03:09 AM

Man that sucks. Domain registers should have 24 hour support. You can try to do a support ticket but I don't know if they answer those on weekends either. It seems like locked domains don't do shit for security.

Mark

Thurbs 02-05-2005 03:10 AM

i suggest ppl start looking at places like gandi.net and other domain registrars used normally by spammers and ppl seeking immunity. why? because they are so paranoid, it's like a 10 step procedure to actually transfer your domain ownership, making these hit and runs nearly impossible.

pornstar2pac 02-05-2005 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thurbs
i suggest ppl start looking at places like gandi.net and other domain registrars used normally by spammers and ppl seeking immunity. why? because they are so paranoid, it's like a 10 step procedure to actually transfer your domain ownership, making these hit and runs nearly impossible.



you know, that's the smartest thing I have heard since this domain stealing started a few months back :thumbsup

Finn 02-05-2005 03:30 AM

DarkJedi,
Was it ws,cn or tv tld?
Those are not locked.

UnclePecker 02-05-2005 03:31 AM

Did you have your login/pass to directnic stored on your PC, in a .txt file, etc?

arg 02-05-2005 03:34 AM

In the current situation, to get the domain working again, you need to contact the new registrar where the domain has moved. (Unless it moved between directnic accounts, so it's still there). You'll want to contact Directnic about what went wrong and how to get it back to Directnic (if you're still going to use Directnic), but that can probably wait until Monday. I don't think Directnic would be able to do anything in the short-term other than confirm to the new registrar details of the theft...the new registrar can change the DNS settings back to what they were. If they're competent, they'll be able to confirm it was hijacked even without directnic's involvement. Longer term, unless you let the domain expire, or used false contact info in the registration, it's almost certain you'll be able to get it back. But short term I'd just work on getting the DNS changed so your site gets back up.

Thurbs 02-05-2005 03:35 AM

lol .. i highly doubt it was the last two. these attacks aren't localized, they're server side vulnerabilities and since most registrars are run by idiots who would rather offer you sweeeet ease-of-use, 1 minute setup, near instant DNS propagation etc .... simple brute force atks let you hop in and do whatever since changes are made to be automated and near instant.

problem is, they're response is like non-existant, and their preventative measures are a crock of shit tbh.

arg 02-05-2005 02:05 PM

DJedi, any news? To which registrar did the hijackers move your domain?

BVF 02-05-2005 02:08 PM

gotdamn that sucks. when locked domains are getting stolen from DirectNic, that's a fucking problem. A BIG fucking problem.

GeorgeK 02-05-2005 02:10 PM

See the other thread by Muff, too:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=427476

Is it Xybererotica in the WHOIS again, like the Easy-Dater.com theft a few weeks ago from Sleazydreams?

Shoplifter 02-05-2005 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
and of cource everyone is out for the weekend.

fuck.


The lack of weekend support is a serious issue. They hit Sleazy on a long weekend so it is clear the thieves are taking the delays with weekend and holiday support into account.

DomBuyer 02-05-2005 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
motherfuckers, how do they do this ?

i had everything locked down and some fucker stole one of the domains.

what the fuck ?

Karma apparently at play :helpme

Steen2 02-05-2005 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBuyer
Karma apparently at play :helpme

:1orglaugh What did DarkJedi do?

SmokeyTheBear 02-05-2005 03:31 PM

If they logged in they would have had to unlock the domain and transfer it , either way an email should have been sent or your registrar is liable for damages. They didnt steal it from you they stole it from directnic.

arg 02-05-2005 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
If they logged in they would have had to unlock the domain and transfer it , either way an email should have been sent or your registrar is liable for damages. They didnt steal it from you they stole it from directnic.

They are not liable for damages for failure to send an email notice. ICANN provides ways of correcting domain thefts, and registrars typically indemnify themselves against consequential damages with their service agreements. I think a suit would only be successful if the registrar were negligent in allowing the hijack, and then exhibited continued willful negligence and obstruction in resolving the problem, as happened with Kremen's successful suit against Network Solutions regarding sex.com.

freeadultcontent 02-05-2005 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arg
They are not liable for damages for failure to send an email notice. ICANN provides ways of correcting domain thefts, and registrars typically indemnify themselves against consequential damages with their service agreements. I think a suit would only be successful if the registrar were negligent in allowing the hijack, and then exhibited continued willful negligence and obstruction in resolving the problem, as happened with Kremen's successful suit against Network Solutions regarding sex.com.

I would believe a decent attorney could easily argue that by not having technical support on the weekends, when it has been clear the rampant thefts have been occuring during the weekends due clearly to the fact the thieves know the owner can do nothing, could be considered negligent behavior.

Theo 02-05-2005 04:21 PM

dotser wanted to verify my last transfer via phone

arg 02-05-2005 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freeadultcontent
I would believe a decent attorney could easily argue that by not having technical support on the weekends, when it has been clear the rampant thefts have been occuring during the weekends due clearly to the fact the thieves know the owner can do nothing, could be considered negligent behavior.

See http://www.directnic.com/legal/policy.php sections:
10. LIMITATION OF LIABILITY
11. DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTIES
12. Indemnity
13. Representations and Warranties

You could always try, but they definitely thought of this beforehand. :-)

freeadultcontent 02-05-2005 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arg
See http://www.directnic.com/legal/policy.php sections:
10. LIMITATION OF LIABILITY
11. DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTIES
12. Indemnity
13. Representations and Warranties

You could always try, but they definitely thought of this beforehand. :-)

Just giving my :2 cents: I do not use directnic myself. My registrar makes me jump through hoops when I attempt a transfer. Hell they have even phoned me before when I added 20 domains at one time to my account, to make sure I had actually placed the order and that my account was not compromized.

DarkJedi 02-05-2005 06:06 PM

The site is still there - they havent changed the DNS yet. Just moved the domain to another registrar.
It was a .net domain.
It was locked.
I never got any email, and the mailbox wasn't mail bombed.
Directnic account shows no lock/unlock requests or any transfers.
Domain has been transfered to enom.com and they are using proxyguard to hide the whois info.

Both registrars are working monday thru friday so there is no way to reach either of them now.

I have no idea how the've done it. I thought DirectNic was a pretty safe place to keep domains at.

justsexxx 02-05-2005 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
The site is still there - they havent changed the DNS yet. Just moved the domain to another registrar.
It was a .net domain.
It was locked.
I never got any email, and the mailbox wasn't mail bombed.
Directnic account shows no lock/unlock requests or any transfers.
Domain has been transfered to enom.com and they are using proxyguard to hide the whois info.

Both registrars are working monday thru friday so there is no way to reach either of them now.

I have no idea how the've done it. I thought DirectNic was a pretty safe place to keep domains at.

Damn that scares me. How the **** is that possible. Did they maybe hack your email account, request the transfer, and replied that? (and agreed in the mail and deleted it?)

Also sleazy, you have an idea how they did it?

Andre

DarkJedi 02-05-2005 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx
Damn that scares me. How the **** is that possible. Did they maybe hack your email account, request the transfer, and replied that? (and agreed in the mail and deleted it?)

Also sleazy, you have an idea how they did it?

Andre

No, my email is still working.
I never received any emails about any transfers.
I also have many other domain in my directnic account so they could have taken them also if they had hacked my account.

Must be some DirectNic backdoor, i don't know.

DarkJedi 02-05-2005 06:15 PM

Also, my account is locked and is set to auto-reject any transfers.

David! 02-05-2005 06:23 PM

Looks like they always do that late fridays too

justsexxx 02-05-2005 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
Also, my account is locked and is set to auto-reject any transfers.

Very strange. Curious what directnic will tell you. Please keep us updated. And good luck :(

arg 02-05-2005 06:25 PM

Sure sounds strange. There was a previous directnic hijack reported a couple weeks ago. I wonder if the hijackers were waiting for a longer holiday weekend to switch the DNS, hoping you wouldn't notice until then, or maybe wait 60 days and then transfer it to yet another registrar, so getting it back would be more complicated. I'm interested in what you find out, hope you post updates DJ.

DWB 02-05-2005 06:26 PM

Fuck. I'm set for high security but if they got yours... anyone is open to theft.

SureFire 02-05-2005 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
The site is still there - they havent changed the DNS yet. Just moved the domain to another registrar.
It was a .net domain.
It was locked.
I never got any email, and the mailbox wasn't mail bombed.
Directnic account shows no lock/unlock requests or any transfers.
Domain has been transfered to enom.com and they are using proxyguard to hide the whois info.

Both registrars are working monday thru friday so there is no way to reach either of them now.

I have no idea how the've done it. I thought DirectNic was a pretty safe place to keep domains at.

Curious, did you signup that domain directly through DirectNic or did a hosting company register it for you?

andrej_NDC 02-05-2005 06:46 PM

Im happy I have never touched directnic, Monday-Friday support is so 1995...

Kimmykim 02-05-2005 07:09 PM

I'm guessing that DirectNic will do everything they can to get this taken care of.

crockett 02-05-2005 07:20 PM

was sleazy's name also at directnic?

AgentCash 02-05-2005 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett
was sleazy's name also at directnic?

Dotster wasn't it?


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