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KRL 12-07-2004 12:06 AM

Afghanistant Produces 87% of the worlds Opium supply now
 
Holy shit. I thought we took over that place.

:helpme :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Oil and poppy fields.

Makes you wonder doesn't it.

OzMan 12-07-2004 12:08 AM

that was the real reason for developing such accurate targetting,.. so they wouldn't hit the poppy fields by accident :glugglug

OY 12-07-2004 12:09 AM

So much for the republicans and their war on drugs....


uhhhh... terror?




Which one was it again???





:1orglaugh

KRL 12-07-2004 12:11 AM

Turn on CNN. They're showing the Afghan presidential inauguaration.

In the audience are warlords that control the poppy fields.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Jace 12-07-2004 12:11 AM

my backyard is the other 13%

pornguy 12-07-2004 12:15 AM

Great just what this world needs. People that are fucked up messing with oil pipelines.

Manowar 12-07-2004 12:15 AM

Now thats what i call liberation :thumbsup

GTS Mark 12-07-2004 12:17 AM

Who said oil was the only gold out there :winkwink:

DH

TheFrog 12-07-2004 12:18 AM

i gotta visit there sometime :Graucho :Graucho

klinton 12-07-2004 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Oil and poppy fields.
Makes you wonder doesn't it.

hehe ;]

Pornwolf 12-07-2004 12:28 AM

It's not like any country, even us, could go over there and truly interrupt their number 1 crop. They would call one helluva Jihad on us if we did.

chodadog 12-07-2004 12:32 AM

I heard that statistic a while ago on the news and it got me thinking. How much do governments around the world spend on the war on drugs. Think abou thow much damage you could do to the heroin trade if you simply paid the farmers to not grow these crops. The reason they grow it is that it earns them something like 5 times as much as any other crop. Surely paying them off at the very beginning would be cheaper than fighting it down the line.

The people that grow these things aren't all criminals. Many of them are just ordinary farmers trying to get by. Who could resist an offer to multiply their income by 5 for the same work?

emthree 12-07-2004 12:50 AM

god is trying to send the US a msg, pay close attention.

Project-Shadow 12-07-2004 12:54 AM

Oh well time to blow em up.

erehwon 12-07-2004 02:52 AM

...and to think the U.S. is using mercenary companies to fly defoliation missions over the coca fields of Colombia.

VeriSexy 12-07-2004 02:59 AM

GOD = Gold Oil Drugs to republicans. That's why Bush always says he loves GOD :glugglug

Paul Waters 12-07-2004 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Holy shit. I thought we took over that place.

:helpme :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Oil and poppy fields.

Makes you wonder doesn't it.

You liberated the poppy producers from the Taliban.....

groark 12-07-2004 06:06 AM

One of my youth-friends who smoked weed like many other ppl now smokes Opium :(
It's only fucking 5? / gram :( :( :(

directfiesta 12-07-2004 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Turn on CNN. They're showing the Afghan presidential inauguaration.

In the audience are warlords that control the poppy fields.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Same warlords that are going to fight American troops and America in a few years, ...
Endless loop ...

Pornopat 12-07-2004 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paul Waters
You liberated the poppy producers from the Taliban.....
Yep. And they use an American management system now as well.
:Graucho

scoreman 12-07-2004 08:39 AM

Don't expect the current bonanza of drugs flowing out of Afghanistan to stop anytime soon. Too much of that countries economy is based on the flow of drug money. While a huge share goes to a select few warlords, everyone from the farmers to the grocery stores rely on that money to keep flowing. Its not like the US installed puppet leader is about to start replacing that money and the USA sure doesnt want to. Afghanistan will remain completely fucked like it is for a long while to come. The country has nothing the USA really wants, and therein lies the root of their problem.

digifan 12-07-2004 09:39 AM

KRLs news always surprise me...

EviLSuperstaR 12-07-2004 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein
So much for the republicans and their war on drugs....

uhhhh... terror?

Which one was it again???


:1orglaugh

What ya mean? Their leader (and US president) is a cokehead.

Rich 12-07-2004 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scoreman
Don't expect the current bonanza of drugs flowing out of Afghanistan to stop anytime soon. Too much of that countries economy is based on the flow of drug money. While a huge share goes to a select few warlords, everyone from the farmers to the grocery stores rely on that money to keep flowing. Its not like the US installed puppet leader is about to start replacing that money and the USA sure doesnt want to. Afghanistan will remain completely fucked like it is for a long while to come. The country has nothing the USA really wants, and therein lies the root of their problem.
Actually the production of opium had almost completely stopped under the Taliban, it's only started again since the war. Afghanistan has one thing America wants, the land for their oil pipeline. That's why the bases they've made go along the pipeline route, and they've left the rest of the country to the warlords. If they didn't have anything the neo cons wanted, you wouldn't be there. That war has about as much to do with Bin Laden as the Iraq war does.

VeriSexy 12-07-2004 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scoreman
Don't expect the current bonanza of drugs flowing out of Afghanistan to stop anytime soon. Too much of that countries economy is based on the flow of drug money. While a huge share goes to a select few warlords, everyone from the farmers to the grocery stores rely on that money to keep flowing. Its not like the US installed puppet leader is about to start replacing that money and the USA sure doesnt want to. Afghanistan will remain completely fucked like it is for a long while to come. The country has nothing the USA really wants, and therein lies the root of their problem.
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Phoenix 12-07-2004 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
Actually the production of opium had almost completely stopped under the Taliban, it's only started again since the war. Afghanistan has one thing America wants, the land for their oil pipeline. That's why the bases they've made go along the pipeline route, and they've left the rest of the country to the warlords. If they didn't have anything the neo cons wanted, you wouldn't be there. That war has about as much to do with Bin Laden as the Iraq war does.
don't use facts and logic please


stick to irrational name calling and threats to nuke people into submission..thanks

TheJimmy 12-07-2004 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Phoenix
don't use facts and logic please


stick to irrational name calling and threats to nuke people into submission..thanks


kinda funny, I was just thinking the same thing...


how UNpatriotic of me... lol


:winkwink: :thumbsup

Rich 12-07-2004 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Phoenix
don't use facts and logic please


stick to irrational name calling and threats to nuke people into submission..thanks

lol

Fred Quimby 12-07-2004 02:54 PM

I think it's higher than 87%:glugglug

TheFrog 12-07-2004 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VeriSexy
GOD = Gold Oil Drugs to republicans. That's why Bush always says he loves GOD :glugglug
:1orglaugh

Thrawn$ 12-07-2004 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VeriSexy
GOD = Gold Oil Drugs to republicans. That's why Bush always says he loves GOD :glugglug
:thumbsup

In god we trust

69pornlinks 12-07-2004 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
Actually the production of opium had almost completely stopped under the Taliban, it's only started again since the war. Afghanistan has one thing America wants, the land for their oil pipeline. That's why the bases they've made go along the pipeline route, and they've left the rest of the country to the warlords. If they didn't have anything the neo cons wanted, you wouldn't be there. That war has about as much to do with Bin Laden as the Iraq war does.
:)

crockett 12-07-2004 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by erehwon
...and to think the U.S. is using mercenary companies to fly defoliation missions over the coca fields of Colombia.
They are run by the military but technically it's a civilian company, all the pilots are also civilians. I used to know the guy in charge of that entire operation, he was the only military officer in the whole deal.

I came very close to joining the army reserves to get my flight training so I could fly for him. However I had just turned 28 at the time and the army wouldn't put me in flight training becouse they said I was too old. :(

Sucks ass cause that would have been a killer job. Lots of action and IMO would have been very fun.

ADL Colin 02-15-2005 03:48 AM

Feb 9. 2005

Afghan opium poppy crops shrink

By N.C. Aizenman
The Washington Post

Girdi Ghous, Afghanistan - Across Afghanistan, government officials and foreign aid workers who monitor poppy cultivation have reached a remarkable conclusion: One year after Afghan farmers planted the largest amount of poppy in their nation's history and provided the world with nearly 90 percent of its opium supply, many of them have stopped growing it.

Poppy farming, officials said, may have declined by as much as 70 percent in three provinces that together account for more than half of Afghanistan's production: Nangahar in the east, Helmand in the south and Badakhshan in the north.

In Nangahar, where last spring poppies bloomed all along the main road from the provincial capital, Jalalabad, to the Pakistani border, the contrast is striking.

"I visited 16 out of 22 districts and I couldn't find a single plant of poppy," marveled Mirwais Yasini, head of the Afghan government's counternarcotics directorate. "It was all wheat."

Several factors may be responsible, including a drop in opium prices after the previous banner harvest, and a reluctance to plant among farmers whose crops were destroyed last season by disease or the police.

Afghan officials, however, say the news vindicates President Hamid Karzai's decision to reject an anti-poppy aerial spraying campaign, which had been promoted by the U.S. government, in favor of a more consensus-based "Afghan solution."

Karzai voiced concerns that spraying would cause health and environmental problems and antagonize farmers; several foreign nonprofit aid groups here also opposed the idea.

Instead, the president used appeals to national and religious pride, the promise of international aid and the threat of crop destruction to persuade village and tribal leaders to curb poppy cultivation voluntarily.

Yet the very success of this new policy creates tremendous challenges in a nation where opium cultivation and trafficking made up more than a third of the economy last year and sustained many thousands of poor rural families.

"People will need other sources of income as soon as possible, or we'll be the witness to a big disaster," said Gen. Muhammad Daoud, the deputy interior minister in charge of counternarcotics. "People may even face starvation."

Col. David Lamm, chief of staff for the U.S. military command in Afghanistan, said he was optimistic that Kabul's assertions of progress in reducing poppy production would prove true.

"Can you put it under your mattress and let the price go up? Yes," he said, but he added that since Karzai told farmers not to plant, "they are not planting."

International donors have pledged millions to help Afghanistan combat drugs this year; the United States pledged about $780 million.

About $120 million of the U.S. package has been earmarked for work on irrigation canals, to improve roads, to offer micro credit, and to obtain better seeds and fertilizers so poppy workers can make a living from other crops and industries.

In Nangahar, the first phase of that effort has already begun, with plans to hire about 50,000 workers to do jobs such as clearing irrigation canals.

In a largely symbolic gesture, the U.S. government has distributed 500 metric tons of wheat seeds in Nangahar - enough for less than 5 percent to 10 percent of farmers, Afghan officials said.

Der Schleicher 02-15-2005 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL
Turn on CNN. They're showing the Afghan presidential inauguaration.

In the audience are warlords that control the poppy fields.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

That sad. :(

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Jakke PNG 02-15-2005 05:15 AM

They use the poppyseeds for bagels, you dumb fucks.

Webby 02-15-2005 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erehwon
...and to think the U.S. is using mercenary companies to fly defoliation missions over the coca fields of Colombia.

That sounds a nice idea... another fuckup to compound the first fuckup :-)

I was chatting to a DEA person and mentioned that US marines were embarking on an island to burn out drug growing areas.

He commented... So that's what they are getting them to do, - it's a pity then don't make the effort to give the farmers something better to grow and earn from, than just burn their crop and piss them off.

Oddly, he seemed to make sense :-)

ADL Colin 02-15-2005 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby
That sounds a nice idea... another fuckup to compound the first fuckup :-)

I was chatting to a DEA person and mentioned that US marines were embarking on an island to burn out drug growing areas.

He commented... So that's what they are getting them to do, - it's a pity then don't make the effort to give the farmers something better to grow and earn from, than just burn their crop and piss them off.

Oddly, he seemed to make sense :-)

Webby,

It's a great idea. See the article above. We've given them 500 metric tons of wheat seeds so far. Now let's give them 5000 more. Many afghan farmers are already giving up opium production. (See article above)

Rui 02-15-2005 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL
Holy shit. I thought we took over that place.

:helpme :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Oil and poppy fields.

Makes you wonder doesn't it.

Thats hardly news m8, it has been this way for quite some time :winkwink:


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