How Much is Exclusive Content Worth per Scene ?
 

How Much would you expect to pay per scene for Exclusive Boy/Girl Content ?

Dunno how much you'd expect to pay, but I know how much one costs...assuming you're using models that have been there/done that:

girl -- $500 to $1000 depending on numerous variables, from locale to age...

dude -- $150 to $500, again, depending on a number of things...from dick size to locale...

director/cameraman -- usuallly around $250 to shoot, another $250 in post-production.

$100 to $500 for a set.

Then throw in another $100 or so for water, baby wipes, DV tape, and that sort of thing...

gets expensive, huh?

Yeah, and the biggest problem is that everyone wants Exclusive but no one wants to pay a fair price :(

want girls like these? 2 grand. anybody who's shooting these girls for much less is an idiot or simply in the biz to get laid - which usually means the content will suck.


http://www.wantongirls.com/carrie_1.jpg

http://www.wantongirls.com/madison2_009.jpg

http://www.wantongirls.com/judy_nubiles.jpg

I charge $2k per scene, ILl do $1800 ea if you pre pay 10 sets

you pay the girls above 2k for a b/g shoot?

Right on. :thumbsup

They all scream how important it is and then offer you $1,000 for an exclusive Boy-Girl shoot. Tossers.

Shot this last week and here's a break down of what it's worth.

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Images
US 1st right sale $2,000
UK 1st right sale $1200
EU sales $1,000
Second rights UK/US $1200
Internet 20 sales at $50 = $1,000

Video on DVD $1200
Video on Internet $1,000

Total $8,600 and we will squeeze that up to $10,000 in it's life time.

And we get guys offer us $1,000 to shoot exclusvie B/G :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I would seriously consider taking on someone with a long term commitment for exclusve B/G for $2500+ a set and video. Unfortunately you can't shoot that level of girl every day doing anal and her being brand new. :(

So billywatson & sexxxychat69 it has nothing to do with what it costs, it's about what it's worth to you.

Mutt do me a favour, don't start shooting for magazines. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

And seriously do you have the publishing houses permission to use their books in a shoot? A magazine company was sued for doing that.

nooooooooooo...........i meant 2,000 for the scene not the girls.

like billywatson says prices for girls vary depending on various factors - the girls above were all standard rate for new girls in L.A. - $800 plus a $100 booking fee. Guys go from between $150 to $500 - we pay $350 - occassionally less and sometimes more when we had to pay a guy $475 cuz another guy flaked and this guy thinks he's a star. good guy but u can see at the prices this shit costs you can't be paying a dude $475 and have much profit.

older girls make less, girls who have been around a long time and are desperate for work can be had for less.

So you are paying the models around $1250 a shoot and selling at $2,000? :error

no magazines for us - already alot of guys doing that in L.A. shooting the same girls - i just hope they stay off the Net - most magazine shooters do stay off the Net - i see their stuff popping up on some broker sites tho.

Stunning

yeah and that's why i don't take any more video only customers - i take my cut and there's not much left over for my guys. If i put together a package that includes stills then it works out ok - without the stills and thank god both brian and marco are good photographers it works out ok. i wish webmasters would pay more but after probably talking to 1,000 of them, it just isn't in the cards. they're always quoting me this guy or that guy is doing this or that for 1,000 bucks - which is impossible unless somebody is scamming.

Mutt I'm not trying to be nasty, but with your profit margins very few magazine shooters in LA would come to the Internet to shoot.

Most look upon it as a bit extra, but that is changing. Some are seeing our expansion in a time when their businesses are shrinking and wondering why.

The Internet is a great volume market, we have quadrupled our production in the last two years. :) Most magazine shooters look at shooting 100 to 120 sets a year, we're over 500.

But expect more to give their content to brokers like Photorama and Adult Stock Photos in the future.

that stunning girl is Judit aka Sandra Shine, very popular Eastern
European girl who you'll see alot on the high quality sites like 1-by-day, ALSCANS etc.

she doesn't do b/g but she gets top rate, as much as a b/g chick for g/g.

also a total professional, marco loves shooting her cuz she's such a good model and pleasant to deal with.

Usually it's guys who can't shoot for shit and the content looks awful, but the paysite owner can tell everyone he's got exclusive Boy-Girl. Not sure how many it actually signs up though.

Think about it over the lifetime of a set is one of yours worth an extra $1,000, how many more guys would sign up to see those babes fucked and properly shot than some of the stuff I've seen.

charly i know a handful of magazine photographers - they don't do as well financially as my guys do. but they bust ass to make a good living, shooting 6 and 7 days a week - it is a volume business.

about 2k... depends what the client wants us to do... sometimes they want the girl to do some freaky shit... but stills, video, dvd, clips ready for web, and trailer... about 2k, unless they need some crazy editing or other things...about 2k

Images
US 1st right sale $2,000
UK 1st right sale $1200
EU sales $1,000
Second rights UK/US $1200
Internet 20 sales at $50 = $1,000

Video on DVD $1200
Video on Internet $1,000

Total $8,600 and we will squeeze that up to $10,000 in it's life time.


LOL OH GIVE ME A FUCKIN BREAK.... Charley if you made that profit margin per shoot , you would be retired by now and have some kid board whoring instead of you doin it yourself. I know what you pay the girls there as I worked with about 15 of the ones you did when I was out there. ANd IF i made a mrgin as you say tyou do, id be typing from Tahiti right now. LOL

can you email me some samples or send me a temp user/pass to check out samples ?

Hmmmm interesting :) The pics look Great. Can I check out some samples ? Shooting porn live or pre-recorded in the USA doesn't seem to pencil out at the end of the day, Thats why you gotta go out of the country right ?

You can see samples at www.amacontent.com

You can get good exclusive b/g video content for $1200-1300.

From Where ?

and how much cost you that girl ?
3k CZK as always (about 100-120usd) per scene?

or 10 CZK and it includes sex with you and your wife too?
:Graucho
Like we used to hear that from local girls .

sorry charly, but to pay for shoot of girl, who doesnt speak (like me) fluent english, 2k usd its litlle bit much.

I charge $1500 per classic sex b/g scene, video and pics included.
If we are talking about larger orders this price can be even lower, and if I can say, much much lower...
Why? I don't have content store and I don't sell content non-exclusive, so I can't make comparation with number of non-exclusive sales, and how much that content can bring me via non-exclusive sales. Simply I total all costs (models, makeup, etc.) and add 25% (which is my profit) on that... If order has more than 3 scenes then almost all costs are lower (compared to three seperate one scene orders) so I can make the price lower as well (~$1250)...

And... If we are allowed to spam this topic, here are some samples :1orglaugh

http://www.mikescontent.com/inside/m.../p5268218x.jpg

http://www.mikescontent.com/inside/m.../p6220522x.jpg

http://www.mikescontent.com/inside/m.../p5257588x.jpg

yeah tell me too. Ill buy some.

Well, I just told you where... See my sig...

If I told you then everybody would be getting the same content as me and that would be no good. Look and you will find.

Sexxxychat you are in Vegas right? So are we. Talk to us, we can work together well.
:thumbsup

Mutt I know a handful of magazine shooters and most turn over $250,000 a year. Must be talking to the wrong guys.

I KNEW there was a reason I clicked on this thread. Woo-hoo!

What an idiot, fistly he tells me he has exclusive girlas who no one shot, then he tells me he shot all the girls I've already shot. Most of what he saw were girls I rejected on castings.

So why aren't I on a beach in Thailand?

Well look at my wife and ask yourself would I be happier on a beach or with her? I could of retired in 2000, in fact that was the plan but in 1998 Eva walked into my life and now I doubt if I ever will retire, even though I talk about it all the time.

And why doesn't Lensman or Bill Gates or Larry Flynt retire?

Anyway to make the money I make you would have to learn to shoot like me first. :1orglaugh

And I expect an appolagy for calling me a liar. :mad:

You wanted to check out some of my samples?

The set is not online yet.

But the rest of our work is at www.paulmarkham.com

Then why am I not scrambling around asking people to buy exclusive shoots at the prices everyone else does them for.

What we pay the girls varies on what the girl will happily do it for, not what we earn. And yes Eva forces all the girls to have sex with us. She insists on it. :1orglaugh

Mikey, lovely work as always. When you can shoot to this standard you don't have to give it away.

Sorry I missed the last part of your post.

Yes I came here because of the quality of the girls, their personality and cost of living.

But I was by no means the first shooter to go East, John Graham, Jack Harrison, Viv Thomas, Kevin Macklin and Deny de Francesco were all here before or around the same time.

Mutt there's are a couple of millionaires in that list.

It makes sense to be here, only draw back is the girls talk with an accent, if they speak English at all.

OK then show us your payysite where you have all this great content, you might even get a few webmasters to sign up to you.

If it's so good.

And that's one of the reasons paysites are looking for better content. If not to impress the surfer, then to impress the quality webmaster who can send you 10 sign ups a days. The guys working for top programs with the top content.

Anyone can recruit a newbie to send them bandwidth sucking traffic that never signs up, but to get the best webmasters you need to show them you will make the most with their traffic.

Isn't this where that oracle porn dude normally jumps in?

per shoot

Nice prices u r talking Charly...i just wish i can reach half of those prices:)
Guys know i am from east europe and think that here everything is free...couse of that and couse of russians...i can't charge normal sceene for more then 700-800$...but if i work more and harder at the end it is still good income for me.