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Malkmus 05-23-2004 07:37 PM

Michael Moore
 
I see a lot of discussion here about Michael Moore (you know the guy who just won Cannes top award :winkwink: ). Some say he's great, some say he sucks.
So here's an anonymous poll just to see the proportion of Moore's fans/haters.

aimeesweet 05-23-2004 07:44 PM

He makes some very thought provoking documentaries.

eroswebmaster 05-23-2004 07:45 PM

Saving spot in possible heated Moore discussion thread.

Malkmus 05-23-2004 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
Saving spot in possible heated Moore discussion thread.
it's just a poll :glugglug

Donny 05-23-2004 07:56 PM

I anonymously voted:

NO

because I hate those that make up drama and call it a factual documentary just to make tons of money (and makes fun of others that just do things for money).


And, for the record, I'm voting for Kerry. So this isn't some right winger talking.

TurboTrucker 05-23-2004 07:57 PM

He doesn't make documentaries.

Quote:

Originally posted by aimeesweet
He makes some very thought provoking documentaries.

Rictor 05-23-2004 07:57 PM

I think he's great and we need more Americans like him.

ronbotx 05-23-2004 07:57 PM

:moon :moon :moon :moon

http://moorewatch.com/

Donny 05-23-2004 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
I anonymously voted:

NO

because I hate those that make up drama and call it a factual documentary just to make tons of money (and makes fun of others that just do things for money).


And, for the record, I'm voting for Kerry. So this isn't some right winger talking.

Again, anonymously. Of course. :1orglaugh :winkwink:

unconnected 05-23-2004 08:10 PM

pretty neck and neck on who likes and doesn't like this guy

erehwon 05-23-2004 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aimeesweet
He makes some very thought provoking documentaries.
Aimee, I love you, but please edit that to read...

He makes some very thought provoking FICTION!

eroswebmaster 05-23-2004 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Malkmus
it's just a poll :glugglug
Keep telling yourself that...LOL

Malkmus 05-23-2004 08:15 PM

For now, the score is tight.

It would have been interesting to have only yank voters.
Outside of the USA, Moore has a quite good image but in the States, things seem slightly different since a lot of people seem to struggle to make him look as an asshole.

eroswebmaster 05-23-2004 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Malkmus
For now, the score is tight.

It would have been interesting to have only yank voters.
Outside of the USA, Moore has a quite good image but in the States, things seem slightly different since a lot of people seem to struggle to make him look as an asshole.

I like moore..have been a big fan of his since Roger and Me.

I think he's funny, insightful and even if not everything is a "real" documentary it's highly entertaining and thought provoking.

Malkmus 05-23-2004 08:23 PM

Will you, people who voted NO, go and see Fahrenheit 9/11 ?

PS: if a distributor is found :winkwink:

maxdaname 05-23-2004 08:28 PM

I respect the guy!

Donny 05-23-2004 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Malkmus
Will you, people who voted NO, go and see Fahrenheit 9/11 ?

PS: if a distributor is found :winkwink:


If he's really not in it for the money, how about a FREE "pre-release" online?

Interesting petition:

http://www.petitiononline.com/rd3p123m/petition.html

Malkmus 05-23-2004 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
If he's really not in it for the money, how about a FREE "pre-release" online?

Interesting petition:

http://www.petitiononline.com/rd3p123m/petition.html

I'm not sure he's the only one deciding this.

thatjen 05-23-2004 08:33 PM

I like him but he's a little over the top at times (like during his speech at the Academy Awards, or whenever that was). I haven't seen his new movie yet, though.

Donny 05-23-2004 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Malkmus
I'm not sure he's the only one deciding this.
Read this:

http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com/fmJournal.html

May 19, 2004 - A new deal.

You all know that I recently made an offer to Michael Moore to give 5% of the profits from the film to Buell Elementary School in Flint, MI, provided he did the 45 minute sit-down interview I?ve been requesting of him for a year now. He has yet to respond.

So now comes word that a bright, young guy named Ryan is conspiring (I love that word) with Lee and Jim over at Moorewatch.com to make him another offer he won?t respond to. Ryan has begun a petition to ask Moore to release Fahrenheit 911 on the internet for free. See, Moore just spent the last two days playing ?aw, shucks? with the French and the press, pretending to be the target of a White House conspiracy (I love that word) to keep his film from being seen in the US. Of course, this is Bullshit! (as my friend Penn would say), designed to drum up anticipation for the flick?s release.

So the other day, I saw a clip of Moore stating that he would release the film, even if he had to commit an act of civil disobedience to do it. He said that it?s crucial that people see this film before the election, and he?d break the law to make sure they do. I?d like to point out that it?s not possible to commit an act of civil disobedience in the process of exercising free speech, but Moore suddenly thinks he?s Ghandi, so I guess that fact is lost on him.

So Ryan has come up with a brilliant solution. If the film is so valuable, and Moore is so determined that people see it for the true purposes he claims, why not forego all the box office garbage and let it loose on the internet? Will Moore agree, or is the money more important than the message? Time will tell, but I think Ryan has a great idea. You can sign a petition at the site, encouraging Moore to show that he is consistent in his ideology. If he?s more interested in the ?truth? being revealed to the world than he is the payday, he?ll do it. But if it?s all just a game designed to increase his personal wealth at the expense of his loyal followers, he won?t. It?s that simple. Check it out at http://www.moorewatch.com/releasethemovie.

Before you Moore fans jump all over me and call me a hypocrite, I?d just like to point out that I make no apologies for the fact that I hope to make a profit on this film. I?m intellectually honest enough to know that this is a business, and you should know that I have no illusions about saving the world. I?m just trying to make a good flick. Yeah, I know, somebody will pirate the damn thing and trade it at Kazaah, but I hope enough of you go to see it so that I can make my money back, put my kid through college, and maybe even buy a big, black Cadillac.

I?ll check back soon? possibly with a big announcement.


Take care,

Mike Wilson
Director, Michael Moore Hates America

smokingdawn 05-23-2004 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aimeesweet
He makes some very thought provoking documentaries.
Very true

hottoddy 05-23-2004 08:47 PM

He's a funny comedian. But what's funnier is watching the people who believe his movies are documentaries.

Donny 05-23-2004 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hottoddy
He's a funny comedian. But what's funnier is watching the people who believe his movies are documentaries.
Exactly. I hate him because he bends the truth to try to prove something that doesn't exist.

This site, and all the links on it, are interesting reads:

http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/

erehwon 05-23-2004 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Malkmus
Will you, people who voted NO, go and see Fahrenheit 9/11 ?

PS: if a distributor is found :winkwink:

I voted no, and yes, I will see the movie, knowing unlike all the sheeple that saw Bowling for Columbine, that its Moore's thin interpretation of a what documentary really is.

I'm sorry, I like his sarcastic sense of humor, but given all the other documentaries that were up for the Oscar, they should have won it, over a movie that at best was fiction disguised as reality.

Paul Markham 05-23-2004 08:57 PM

He asks questions that clearly embarass a lot of Americans.

It's good in a Democracy to have people like Moore, who upset the status quo and question authority. Of course he has to make a living, but is he drumming up interest to get his message to as many people as possible or to make as much money as possible.

Guess the answer to that lies in what you believe.

He says something that is untrue, come back with facts not just accusations.

Donny 05-23-2004 08:59 PM

I voted no, but will watch the movie also.

The Truth Hurts 05-23-2004 09:11 PM

http://rereader.com/graphics/bowling.jpg

tony286 05-23-2004 09:33 PM

even if you dont like his views ,you have to respect what he has done coming from nothing.

EZRhino 05-23-2004 09:45 PM

I hate the lying fuck

EviLGuY 05-23-2004 09:49 PM

I like him.. not neccesarily his views 100%, but he does make some good points and I like movies that start people thinking. :2 cents:

Axeman 05-23-2004 09:52 PM

I love Michael Moore, he goes againsts the mainstream media and sticks to his guns and opinions. Maybe not always right, but he doesnt waver.

Malkmus 05-24-2004 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly It's good in a Democracy to have people like Moore, who upset the status quo and question authority.
Very true :)

Boogie3 05-24-2004 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Malkmus
Very true :)
:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

Bigfuck 05-24-2004 08:32 AM

He has done some cool stuff:thumbsup

alecb 05-24-2004 08:37 AM

he's just another opportunist political windbag

Malkmus 05-24-2004 03:42 PM

bump

Pornwolf 05-24-2004 03:45 PM

I like him but I'm surprised he's not Canadian.

Doctor Dre 05-24-2004 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
I anonymously voted:

NO

because I hate those that make up drama and call it a factual documentary just to make tons of money (and makes fun of others that just do things for money).


And, for the record, I'm voting for Kerry. So this isn't some right winger talking.

Moore still say way LESS bullshit then bush ... he just open the eyes of blind people .

SlickRick 05-24-2004 03:46 PM

I dont hate anyone. But I strongly DISLIKE Moore with a purple constipated passion.

bringer 05-24-2004 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Moore still say way LESS bullshit then bush ... he just open the eyes of blind people .
:1orglaugh

i heard he's making a documentary about saddam now. how he was great to his people and fed the homeless. im sure he probably did that for atleast 1 person at one time or another.


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