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Jon - Pussy.org 05-21-2004 06:37 PM

German Police aint happy?!?!?
 
Can anyone read german? Got some letters that are really really weird and I cant make sense of them at all... any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.

Weirdly the letters concern t69.com not pussy.org

http://www.t69.com/letters/1.jpg
http://www.t69.com/letters/2.jpg
http://www.t69.com/letters/3.jpg
http://www.t69.com/letters/4.jpg

Thanks

Jon - Pussy.org 05-21-2004 06:41 PM

Sorry, image protection...
go here first then click a picture:

http://www.t69.com/letters/

Jon - Pussy.org 05-21-2004 06:53 PM

A forum doesnt work when theres soo many people on it.. nobodys message gets read cos they move too fast :)

AndrewKanuck 05-21-2004 06:55 PM

you're really fucked now...

nathan_f 05-21-2004 06:56 PM

:1orglaugh

i recognize 'internet site' or something similar, and coming from the germans, i dont think thats good.. :2 cents:

Oracle Porn 05-21-2004 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jon - Pussy.org
Sorry, image protection...
go here first then click a picture:

http://www.t69.com/letters/

dont visit germany anytime soon.

xato 05-21-2004 06:57 PM

same like the sleazydream letter...

tell them to go fuck themselves

nathan_f 05-21-2004 07:00 PM

<nathan_> is this guy in trouble or what?
<nathan_> he doesnt understand german, and neither do i..
<gappern> something about childrensomethingsomething contents of page?
<nathan_> oh damn
<nathan_> that doesnt sound good

#germany@efnet

geeez...

Jon - Pussy.org 05-21-2004 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nathan_f
<nathan_> is this guy in trouble or what?
<nathan_> he doesnt understand german, and neither do i..
<gappern> something about childrensomethingsomething contents of page?
<nathan_> oh damn
<nathan_> that doesnt sound good

#germany@efnet

geeez...

Its about age verification, not CP, all the content is 89.com content, just to make that clear lol :P

JOKER 05-21-2004 07:02 PM

You got on the 'Index' of dangerous sites for minors.

You do not have a proper AVS (to prevent minors entering your site) in place.

Do not visit Germany anytime soon with your original passport. (personal advise)


For more info hit me up on ICQ.


Sorry man,German laws suck.

Steve

crockett 05-21-2004 07:03 PM

Damn so the germans are trying to nail webmasters outside their country?

johndoebob 05-21-2004 07:04 PM

Well it's 3:55am on a saturday atm in Germany so I doubt any german beside me is going to answer.

Bundesprüfstelle für Jugendgefährdende Medien = Agency to protect minors from viewing baaad stuff :winkwink:

They are going to ban your site :1orglaugh

They write that you have to send them a statement within one week after you got the letter if you got any
objections against this.

They write how baaad your site is and why they are going to ban it (showing hardcore ouside member areas/avs systems is illegal in germany).

Could you please write them a letter and tell them to fuck off and not wasting tax payers money.You are living in the US and they can't do shit,they've gone crazy lately.Also tell them that they should write fucking english if they write letters to foreign webmasters who ain't in any way under their juristriction.

Hope that helped you.

xato 05-21-2004 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johndoebob


Could you please write them a letter and tell them to fuck off and not wasting tax payers money.You are living in the US and they can't do shit,they've gone crazy lately.Also tell them that they should write fucking english if they write letters to foreign webmasters who ain't in any way under their juristriction.


PLEASE do that

pimpshost 05-21-2004 07:07 PM

It reminds me of when you cut an asian lady off and she yells obcentities at you in Chinese or Japanese. I personally would not give a fuck what they have to say in Germany, since I do not live there and have no plans to go.

Giorgio_Xo 05-21-2004 07:08 PM

The Nazis are back.

Jon - Pussy.org 05-21-2004 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xato
PLEASE do that
Thanks.. I actually have family that live in germany so would need to visit, however these lettesr were not addressed to me, but the owner of the domain (lucky i guess). The owner is Texan so is unlikely to visit germany lol but if he wanted to. would would they do? :helpme lol

I could complain about the letter to them, but also do you think this matter is resolvable so that the owner could freely travel to germany or would he be locked up for 50 years

johndoebob 05-21-2004 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JOKEREMPIRE
Do not visit Germany anytime soon with your original passport. (personal advise)
Mate they can't do shit,they don't have lists of foreign webmasters at the airport where they check if you've done anything wrong.His site isn't even written in german,there is no law that forbids to do what is legal in your country if it's target to your country.They are fucking pieces of shit and retards too,also they are wasting my tax money (ok,you got me I don't pay taxes :1orglaugh ).

xato 05-21-2004 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jon - Pussy.org
Thanks.. I actually have family that live in germany so would need to visit, however these lettesr were not addressed to me, but the owner of the domain (lucky i guess). The owner is Texan so is unlikely to visit germany lol but if he wanted to. would would they do? :helpme lol

I could complain about the letter to them, but also do you think this matter is resolvable so that the owner could freely travel to germany or would he be locked up for 50 years

i dont think anythign would happen, cause they cant check everybody who enters their country for being a porn webmaster or something...
i really would like to see those us webmasters (you, sleazy and all the others who got mail) sending them some feedback about what stupid assholes they are and that they should concentrate on their own shit and not waste tax payers money like that....

crockett 05-21-2004 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
The Nazis are back.
Porn Nazis

Jon - Pussy.org 05-21-2004 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johndoebob
Mate they can't do shit,they don't have lists of foreign webmasters at the airport where they check if you've done anything wrong.His site isn't even written in german,there is no law that forbids to do what is legal in your country if it's target to your country.They are fucking pieces of shit and retards too,also they are wasting my tax money (ok,you got me I don't pay taxes :1orglaugh ).
I agree... anyway i might place something for germany visitors, write to them asking them to acknowledge the changes, then when they do write them a letter telling them they are a piece of shit lol

Thanks for your help guys

xato 05-21-2004 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jon - Pussy.org
I agree... anyway i might place something for germany visitors, write to them asking them to acknowledge the changes, then when they do write them a letter telling them they are a piece of shit lol

Thanks for your help guys

i agree with what johndoebob said!

that is a very good idea. tell them that they should write to the bpjm telling them what fucking pieces of dumb shit they are and that they are the reason they dont get free porn anymore. that should give the bpjm some nice letters from annoyed porn surfers hehe...

Giorgio_Xo 05-21-2004 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jon - Pussy.org
I agree... anyway i might place something for germany visitors, write to them asking them to acknowledge the changes, then when they do write them a letter telling them they are a piece of shit lol

Thanks for your help guys

Don't!

Reason 1: You recognize that you have German traffic. You aren't under German law. Contacting the German Police tells the U.S. Government that you know you are violating German law.

Reason 2: The Age verification process in Germany is impossible (requires faxed I.D., etc.)

doober 05-21-2004 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
The Nazis are back.
:glugglug

johndoebob 05-21-2004 07:27 PM

I especially like the description of your site :winkwink:

Short descriptions of the Website:

The Portalsite of the english language website www.t69.com contains altogether 70 small format changing pictures which link to external picture galleries with sexual content.

The illustration shows sexual actions between same pairs and same sex pairs,for example oral stimulation of men and woman,the insertion of objects like dildos,vegetables and bottles into the vagina of naked woman or the practice of sexual intercourse.

Beyond that there are links at the top and at the bottom to portal similiar sites with similira content.The pictures aren't pixeled or censored in any way.

The access is free.


Man I should write him a letter and offer him to make descriptions for my sites :thumbsup

Jon - Pussy.org 05-21-2004 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Don't!

Reason 1: You recognize that you have German traffic. You aren't under German law. Contacting the German Police tells the U.S. Government that you know you are violating German law.

Reason 2: The Age verification process in Germany is impossible (requires faxed I.D., etc.)

I get it.. thanks for your help, your a smart cookie heh

johndoebob 05-21-2004 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Don't!

Reason 1: You recognize that you have German traffic. You aren't under German law. Contacting the German Police tells the U.S. Government that you know you are violating German law.

Reason 2: The Age verification process in Germany is impossible (requires faxed I.D., etc.)

The age verfication is still simple,there aren't any new laws yet.You just have to input or ID number and that's enough at the moment.

Those who wrote him don't belong to the police.They can't do shit.

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
The Nazis are back.

Wtf?!They are dumb but what does it have to do with racism?Nothing!

JOKER 05-21-2004 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johndoebob
Mate they can't do shit,they don't have lists of foreign webmasters at the airport where they check if you've done anything wrong.His site isn't even written in german,there is no law that forbids to do what is legal in your country if it's target to your country.They are fucking pieces of shit and retards too,also they are wasting my tax money (ok,you got me I don't pay taxes :1orglaugh ).

If you would have checked with your Lawyer,you would know better.

Everybody accessing borders (under control) and airports is ran through person-checks.


If there are charges against you they will give you shit,they will take you to the next police-station and put the finger of law on you.

Jon know what to do,I'll help with the knowledge we got on this issue.


Thanx,
Steve

btw. we do not need to argue - it is shitty and worse,but it is a law.

Evil1 05-21-2004 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johndoebob
Man I should write him a letter and offer him to make descriptions for my sites :thumbsup
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

JOKER 05-21-2004 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johndoebob
The age verfication is still simple,there aren't any new laws yet.You just have to input or ID number and that's enough at the moment.

You might want to re-read the latest turns of the situation.

Believe me,they wouldnt send thousands of Letters out 7 Euro each with proof of deliverance (Einschreiben mit Rückschein) if they were not sure of that they can press through what they write.

Get the latest info.

Thanx,
Steve

johndoebob 05-21-2004 07:39 PM

Quote:

Everybody accessing borders (under control) and airports is ran through person-checks.
Yes but that's no crime.He could even state that he didn't understood the letter anyway.How should they prove that his site is target to german surfers in anyway or that he even knows the german laws or that a single german surfer ever visited his site beside the bjps guy?.

sandman! 05-21-2004 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jon - Pussy.org
Can anyone read german? Got some letters that are really really weird and I cant make sense of them at all... any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.

Weirdly the letters concern t69.com not pussy.org

http://www.t69.com/letters/1.jpg
http://www.t69.com/letters/2.jpg
http://www.t69.com/letters/3.jpg
http://www.t69.com/letters/4.jpg

Thanks

I got one of those like 3 years ago for one of my domains.

JOKER 05-21-2004 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johndoebob
Yes but that's no crime.He could even state that he didn't understood the letter anyway.How should they prove that his site is target to german surfers in anyway or that he even knows the german laws or that a single german surfer ever visited his site beside the bjps guy?.

The point is the site is accessable from Germany without AVS.

Since the 'owner' (whois) is not from EU the law of the visiting country (in this case Germany) applies.

Think a minute. If they had no point,no law and no reason would they send out thousands of 'proof of deliverance' letters that are not cheap?

There is something coming,and it's worse.

Germany is going way too far and makes an ass out of themselves.

Sad but true.

Steve

johndoebob 05-21-2004 07:56 PM

Well the internet is free for everybody,I doubt they would get right in court. :2 cents:

Quote:

Think a minute. If they had no point,no law and no reason would they send out thousands of 'proof of deliverance' letters that are not cheap?
If it's about wasting tax money everybody is fast. :winkwink:

I don't really know how far checks at airports go,but if you didn't commit any serious crimes I doubt that you will get any problems.

JOKER 05-21-2004 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johndoebob
Well the internet is free for everybody,I doubt they would get right in court. :2 cents:



If it's about wasting tax money everybody is fast. :winkwink:

I don't really know how far checks at airports go,but if you didn't commit any serious crimes I doubt that you will get any problems.


Like I said,check with your lawyer - we did. :2 cents:

johndoebob 05-21-2004 08:04 PM

I won't come back to Germany when I leave the country that's for sure. :winkwink:

A logic thinking judge who knows what the internet is would say that he didn't do anything illegal in germany neither did he target his sites to german visitors to violate the youth protection laws. :2 cents:

xato 05-21-2004 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johndoebob
I won't come back to Germany when I leave the country that's for sure. :winkwink:

:thumbsup

Slinx 05-21-2004 10:40 PM

I can't do a search, because my value for this forum is to low.
If somebody over 5000 post can make a search for wasteland and his letter it could be helpful. At the end of the thread a german lawyer made a comment.

newsdude 05-21-2004 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JOKEREMPIRE
Like I said,check with your lawyer - we did. :2 cents:

This is the best advice you should follow. :2 cents:

pimplink 05-21-2004 11:30 PM

Geez, we can't help you with that, dude.:(

jack pot 05-22-2004 12:06 AM

Quote:

Think a minute. If they had no point,no law and no reason would they send out thousands of 'proof of deliverance' letters that are not cheap?
YES!!

@ all

For better understanding read this

http://www.bundespruefstelle.de/Texte/General.htm


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