friend/employee - bad idea?
 

i've been doing this for some time, and damn does it have it's headaches.

fuck you man, i quit, im tired of your shit.

find someone new to abuse you self righteous bizatch

I'm starting it tonight. Don't tell me that!

Actually, I expect it. Oh well.

question is: what came first?

I make it a point not to get to friendly with my coworkers. :2 cents:

bad mix if you ask me :(

friends or family never mix too good in biz. unless you subcontract each other

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IMHO, sure fire way to kill a friendship.

My thoughts also.

biz first, friendship later.

no threat to the biz (not even close), just a serious headache from time to time.

Ok ..1 bowl of rice a day and thats it..I have to eat..:(

to quote a popular theme song

u take the good
u take the bad
u take them both and there u have
the facts of life.

depends on the quality of the individual...


if they are a go-getting motivated WITH IT person...yes, if not...why risk the friendship if there is any doubt of them being able to live up to your expectations or requirements?


do they have the ability to seperate work relationships and famliar/personal ones?

ive decided against this (employing freinds) every time i have considered it.

well in my mainstream work hiring friends was a horible idea, so far with the adult biz it has worked out a bit diff, but too many times i have seen in various places, Friend/employee does not work at all, 9 times out of 10 it goes bad, due to the friend not fully respecting the "boss" during biz hours, and alot of ppl IMHO have a hard time seperating the work/offwork roles.



-Loki-

Been there, done that. Never works. 'Nuff said. :)

"Seven: this rule is so underrated
Keep your family and business completely seperated
Money and blood don't mix like two dicks and no bitch
Find yourself in serious shit"

It doesn't work.
They think there is some special bond.
Once they start to bitch.. it ruins a friendship.

been there, done that, didn't work.

When you have a business and make money this will always happen, you try and help your friends best you can.
Sometimes it works out well sometimes it doesn't
That's Life

sometimes happens the other way around you have an employee that you become best friends with, give and take like in any relationship be it buisness or other as long as they realise YOU
are the boss !

now what about family and employee?

I've become friends with people I work with but I've never hired or worked for anyone who was a friend or family member before the work relationship. I've seen money destroy too many relationships, especially when there's a lot of it. :(

has worked out well for me over the years. there are issues, but so far none insurmountable.

easier to kill yourself. faster too.

please read again.

im glad my friends are lazy punk rockers who dont want to work anyway...

hahah

:glugglug

don't assume all or none.

:glugglug

Not unless you want your friendship and your business to suffer.

youre right.

actually few of my friends are lazy, they just aint cut out for this industry.

my three closest friends, one is a recording studio engineer, the other a music instructor (digital music genius) - these guys need to be in a room surrounded by mics and computers, the last a videographer, who designs and edits DVD menus and digital video on avid... they know nothing about anything except music and recording.

heh ;)

cheers man.

:glugglug

very bad idea, if you ever have to fire him for being unsatisfactory/incompetent, he will take it personally and your friendship will become alienated.

It's a fine line...but I work with my friends.

not entirely a bad idea.. especially long distance.

I've done this off and on for years. only really killed one friendship: had a guy working for me a one company, i left, got him a job at the next. and his gf. They both worked for me. We hung out a lot, went to the bars every thurs and sat for a year or so. Then I had to fire his gf because she wouldn't do shit. Just sat around in our beanbag room bullshitting with our eng staff.

Yeah, that was a bad day. 2 people let go in a 30m period. One for not doing shit, one for just being an all around fucktard.

I still talk to my friend occasionally. But its not a 'comfortable' thing.

On the other hand, the rest are great. People who respect you work well for you. People who fear you also tend to harbor ill feelings toward you.

It's ok until you have to jump their ass about something - then it brings bad feelings. I've made the mistake of being *friends* with bosses in the past - it has always come back to haunt me.

You should keep your distance and your employees should as well. :winkwink:

We just let a good friend go today.. It was kinda hard but he left on good terms.. A headake for sure non the less..

friends with the boss?

you dirty traitor.

fuck the boss, ALWAYS.

:glugglug

:1orglaugh

Business and friendship = boiling water

Depends on the people involved, as long as everyone realises that business is business, and business relationships should not effect friendships, and vise versa. I'm friends with alot of my clients, but i don't take advantage of the fact, and neither do they.

In short, it can work out, but for most it usually doesn't.

:2 cents: