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BradShaw 01-26-2004 09:32 AM

Content is already king............
 
Amusing to see how many people still do not get that. Cheap penny pinchers still using 1997 Zmaster content.

Few smart people are catching on and will stay above the curve. Just be careful who you hire to produce content for you, I hear horror stories daily.

Joesho 01-26-2004 09:42 AM

YOU are absolutly right Brad, so for all you smart webmasters out there,Want something new and freash.... not from the Old school way of thinking.... good news then REJOICE I say!!!you no longer have to be a sheep.....


JoesHO is here to shoot any and all of your needs....

( Iam not real good on the goth thing, but I will give you a fair deal at least)

I will shoot anything solo girl, or girl / girl that you need/want

in fact I am thinking of a European tour soon myself too.... so if you are looking for fresh/ new stuff or High end known models I can do either for you..... but please I said a fair price... not a CHEAP price do not confuse the two!

ICQ 174842541

BradShaw 01-26-2004 10:00 AM

As I have said, be careful who you deal with when hiring people to shoot content. Experience counts as do references.

Paul Markham 01-26-2004 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
As I have said, be careful who you deal with when hiring people to shoot content. Experience counts as do references.
Curriculum Vitae

Been shooting porn since 1977.
Been full time self employed since 1988
Shot for magazines such as; Club, Mayfair, Barely Legal, Tight, Just 18, Chic, Cheri, Men Only, Hawk, Live Young Girls. Seventeen, plus many others.
Created and ran a porn video mail order in the UK for 7 years.
Has a 3,000 square feet fully equipped studio.
Does not suffer fools gladly
Is considered successful by his peers.

Witty, charming and an arrogant ass. :1orglaugh

Forgot to add, can be found via ICQ, telephone or you can actually visit the studio. The address is visible on the sites.

Tofu 01-26-2004 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joesho

in fact I am thinking of a European tour soon myself too.... so if you are looking for fresh/ new stuff or High end known models I can do either for you..... but please I said a fair price... not a CHEAP price do not confuse the two!

ICQ 174842541

you shoot fat girls?

KraZ 01-26-2004 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly


Curriculum Vitae

Been shooting porn since 1977.
Been full time self employed since 1988
Shot for magazines such as; Club, Mayfair, Barely Legal, Tight, Just 18, Chic, Cheri, Men Only, Hawk, Live Young Girls. Seventeen, plus many others.
Created and ran a porn video mail order in the UK for 7 years.
Has a 3,000 square feet fully equipped studio.
Does not suffer fools gladly
Is considered successful by his peers.

Witty, charming and an arrogant ass. :1orglaugh


Ditto.

No, I'm just joking :winkwink: I'm a newcomer but I work twice as hard - does that count?

Also, I have beautiful, teen models that work exclusively with me:
http://www.nichefetish.com/samples/models4.jpg

dantheman 01-26-2004 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
As I have said, be careful who you deal with when hiring people to shoot content. Experience counts as do references.

true, check the button, 25 years of experince working for you:thumbsup

JOKER 01-26-2004 10:37 AM

Joe is one of the honest guys I know out there.

His work is outstanding.

He knows more girls to work with than I could ever imagine and they love him and to work with him :)

If you need a job done,I can recommend you Joe Jekel without one single doubt.

This guy is a class act. :thumbsup


Take care,
JOKER

HeadPimp 01-26-2004 10:40 AM

Quote:

Has a 3,000 square feet fully equipped studio.
Damn... This white boy is envious...

Joesho 01-26-2004 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tofu-Adult.com


you shoot fat girls?



Hell YES I love the bigguns.....

BradShaw 01-26-2004 10:46 AM

My studio is in a closet. But it works.

basschick 01-26-2004 10:51 AM

brad, i couldn't agree more! content=retention. always keep your members looking forward to the next update because they liked all the others.

makefuckingmoney 01-26-2004 10:55 AM

I sail cheap content and low icqs.

RichC 01-26-2004 10:58 AM

Traffic is king.... always has, and always will be.

kmanrox 01-26-2004 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Amusing to see how many people still do not get that. Cheap penny pinchers still using 1997 Zmaster content.

Few smart people are catching on and will stay above the curve. Just be careful who you hire to produce content for you, I hear horror stories daily.

your signature brags about your 'penny' pictures.... are you that ig'nant?

DeanCapture 01-26-2004 11:16 AM

15 years of experience here! And available for shoots in and around the San Diego area.

References include:

J. Stephen Hicks (Penthouse Photographer)
Oliver Klozov
MacAndBumble

'nuf said :winkwink:

d*

http://www.deancapture.com/images/red_nude.jpg

12clicks 01-26-2004 11:17 AM

traffic is king. always will be.

kmanrox 01-26-2004 11:18 AM

dean capture rocks!! one of the best around!

consider this thread...


JACKED!

BradShaw 01-26-2004 11:21 AM

FYI, video is an entirely different beast. There is shooting it, then getting it online. I would not hire anyone who can now show me ALOT of quality work. Custom photo is going way of dinosaur.

Paul Markham 01-26-2004 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RichC
Traffic is king.... always has, and always will be.
I agree 101% :thumbsup

This is assuming you create the traffic rather than merely redirecting it.

What starts the traffic moving, show them when they arrive, what turns them from a click to a sign up and how do we make sure they don't cancel or refund. Finally what makes the guy renew?

Traffic will always be there as long as guys want to wank and we present them with porn. Take all the porn off the net and the traffic will stop coming.

Mutt 01-26-2004 11:21 AM

it's raining exclusive custom content!

MarcoP and Wanton - if you know anything about the teen niche, you'll know the names and you'll definitely know the content.

can also do reality movies, anal, dp, A2M, throat gaggers, interracial, asians, sybian, masturbations, fetishes - pretty much anything.

[email protected]

BradShaw 01-26-2004 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox
dean capture rocks!! one of the best around!

consider this thread...


JACKED!

Dean, I would love to see samples of your video reality stuff? Can you post some urls?


Kman, be polite. Let the little asian boy get on the computer now. Was not nice of you to jack his pc at the internet cafe

Mutt 01-26-2004 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
FYI, video is an entirely different beast. There is shooting it, then getting it online. I would not hire anyone who can now show me ALOT of quality work. Custom photo is going way of dinosaur.
the FreshPhotos photog has almost left adult completely, but he's doing very well in another area of photography. adapt or perish.

BradShaw 01-26-2004 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RichC
Traffic is king.... always has, and always will be.
Agreed. Content helps though.

Paul Markham 01-26-2004 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
FYI, video is an entirely different beast. There is shooting it, then getting it online. I would not hire anyone who can now show me ALOT of quality work. Custom photo is going way of dinosaur.
The future will be interesting for video, firstly the Acacia situation, then what will happen to all the video shooters when the Porn Video mainstream wake up to this market.

BradShaw 01-26-2004 11:30 AM

Quote:

Porn Video mainstream wake up to this market.
They are idiots. I am always impressed with their lack of professionalism when I see them in Vegas. I am not worried about them.

12clicks 01-26-2004 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
I agree 101% :thumbsup

This is assuming you create the traffic rather than merely redirecting it.

No, it makes no difference.

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Take all the porn off the net and the traffic will stop coming.
yup, the only reason people are on the net is porn:eek7

DeanCapture 01-26-2004 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Dean, I would love to see samples of your video reality stuff? Can you post some urls?
I haven't shot any video reality stuff. I guess that means I have no future in this biz :(

I've been a still shooter for 15 years - it's my passion, it's what I live for, it's my strength. I have shot some video and have been quite happy with the results, but it's not something that I specialize in or care to focus on right now.

It's a broadband world out there and more and more people are logging on to watch movies. But I still think there will always be a need for stills.

d*


http://www.deancapture.com/images/kyli_grainy.jpg

Mutt 01-26-2004 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
The future will be interesting for video, firstly the Acacia situation, then what will happen to all the video shooters when the Porn Video mainstream wake up to this market.
it's happening now, see http://www.meatcash.com

but most are still focused on their core biz of producing content for retail and other markets. most do not have the resources or time to do both the Internet and the traditional movie biz. Some are deciding the Net offers more promise and are putting their energies into it.

only certain movie content works well on the Net. Features don't, people want hardcore extreme gonzo on the Net not with plot lines and dialogue and lame plots and acting. just balls to the wall hardcore. if it's got a reality angle to it that's better.

studios are starting to make nice money via PPV streaming and VOD Downloads. it's a good time to be a movie studio that is cranking out gonzo.

BradShaw 01-26-2004 11:34 AM

There will always be some demand for stills. As Mutt said Fresh Photos photographer has moved out of adult, he could not make $. And he was pretty good...... He was not able to adapt with video, he was a still guy, and still is.

dig420 01-26-2004 11:35 AM

it's not the content, it's how you package it on your tour.

surfers don't recognize and don't care about new girls.

DeanCapture 01-26-2004 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
There will always be some demand for stills. As Mutt said Fresh Photos photographer has moved out of adult, he could not make $. And he was pretty good...... He was not able to adapt with video, he was a still guy, and still is.
I have a lot of respect for this photographer whoever he is. It shows that he's a photographer because he loves shooting and NOT because he just wants to get fucked (like a lot of shooters that I know in this business).

Here's to you Mr. Fresh Photos Photographer :thumbsup

d*

Mutt 01-26-2004 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeanCapture


I haven't shot any video reality stuff. I guess that means I have no future in this biz :(

I've been a still shooter for 15 years - it's my passion, it's what I live for, it's my strength. I have shot some video and have been quite happy with the results, but it's not something that I specialize in or care to focus on right now.

It's a broadband world out there and more and more people are logging on to watch movies. But I still think there will always be a need for stills.

d*


http://www.deancapture.com/images/kyli_grainy.jpg

There will always be fans of still photography Dean :thumbsup

but on the Web, there has got to be a video that goes along with the photosets - tease video, solo toy, behind the scenes, interview - doesn't have to be hardcore but you have to have some moving pictures to support the stills.

DeanCapture 01-26-2004 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dig420
it's not the content, it's how you package it on your tour.

surfers don't recognize and don't care about new girls.

What about retention?

d*

Paul Markham 01-26-2004 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


yup, the only reason people are on the net is porn:eek7

So why else do people surf the adult Internet, sign up to sites, renew? Because you gave them a link to an empty site? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

If you could create the traffic you would be clever, merely redirecting someone who's already got his dick in his hand is not exactly rocket science. :1orglaugh

BVF 01-26-2004 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
what will happen to all the video shooters when the Porn Video mainstream wake up to this market.
It's 2004. They should have gotten on the ball around 2000. There is no way in HELL a strictly retail video producer could come in and compete with video shooters who have done nothing but internet video for years.

12clicks 01-26-2004 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
So why else do people surf the adult Internet, sign up to sites, renew? Because you gave them a link to an empty site?
oh wait, now its the "adult internet". Nice way to sidestep a dopey statement.
here's the original:
"""Take all the porn off the net and the traffic will stop coming."""


Quote:

Originally posted by charly
If you could create the traffic you would be clever, merely redirecting someone who's already got his dick in his hand is not exactly rocket science. :1orglaugh

says the guy who wouldn't know rocket science if it hit him in the ass.
:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 01-26-2004 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

oh wait, now its the "adult internet". Nice way to sidestep a dopey statement.
here's the original:
"""Take all the porn off the net and the traffic will stop coming."""

says the guy who wouldn't know rocket science if it hit him in the ass.
:1orglaugh

Only an idiot would think we were talking about the mainstream Internet on a porn board chatting about a porn subject. Or do I have to spell it out for the lesser educated?

If the hat fits wear it. :1orglaugh

Says the guy who wouldn't know his arse from an ass. Thats a kind of donkey.

RichC 01-26-2004 12:14 PM

rocket science in action :1orglaugh

http://www.wife.com

billing solutions, content, etc. ... merely part of a king's army.

VirtuMike 01-26-2004 12:24 PM

Content is king?

To be more accurate, MY content is king. Pay tribute. You can't sell a product without the product.

12clicks says traffic is king? He's partially right. You can't do a fucking thing without the traffic.


BILLING IS KING. You cannot pay for content or pay for traffic without an effective efficient billing mechanism.

Sucks that we have three kings.


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