the next big thing $5 buck sites
 

are ya ready for the big content owners who will come with the $5 site and offer more content than any other paysites out there ? the death of the $40 sale but at least the customer will recur for a year or more. and when I mean content I mean lots of articles and other stuff to keep people interested and excited.

I am so excited

i knew you would be I wrote this post just for U :)

i'm interested

Sorry to burst your bubble Lars..

PornDollar has $1 Per Month For Life sites.

Launched a few months ago with PornDollar 3.

Soon to be on its own with OneDollarCash.com

From our numbers.. These hella cheap signups rebill forever.


:)

I'm gona put you outa business. I got a sweet plan that noone's thought of yet.




























$0.99 sites - it'll be HUGE!!!!!!!

:) competition sure does sqeeeeze the margains

:glugglug Intresting concept.

the point here is more transactions at lower amounts = lower chargeback ratios......that is why they are so beneficial for program owners....
this trend will continue

Someday someone will take that idea a step further and invent a totally free porn site.

:1orglaugh

I just think that if a print mag could make money for 50 yeras off of $4.95 a month or so inflation adjusted then online the same thing can happen I predict big paysite guys will start aquiring content and studios and start producing more content themselves in house and aquiring more libraris of content. THe site with teh most variety and fullest content sections will eventually win, it will just take time.

NICKELS dude - NICKELS will be the way of the future

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The only question I have with this logic is how does this affect the issuing banks?

i completely agree... that's also where i see things heading. regardless of whether or not i welcome it.

most of that cost is distrubation. the profit is the ads.

That future sees paysites as nothing but a big upsell..............


yuck

Most magazines make their money on advertising - print magazines are falling faster than Bush's approval ratings.

only till the day the competetion totally eliminates $10+ sites and there is nothing left to upsell to, which will make the whole model unprofittable without hidden charges.

Bingo

and my live feeds are a rocking upsell !!!:Graucho

I got an even better one


free 1 day trials that recurr at 10 grand


cant seem to find a billing company that shares my beliefs on fairness :(

or how about you just run a tgp...

Lars, you're on the right track but you're forgeting one imporant fact. Circulation size !!
How many mags do i need to sell per month to break even ??
300k, 500k, 1,000,000+ ? per month and every month to make a profit. And thats not including the extra advertising rev from ads in the mags

How many paysites operators can you name that do more than 10k transactions a day ? How about 5k a day ?? the answer is very few and only getting less. Something drastic would need to happen for that # to start going up again.

So to answer your post, i dont see it going that route anytime soon as we've already proven surfers will pay almost any price for unique and new porn that turns em on.

true but cost are less online, and if the content is crazy full and endless and refreshing constantly, then the surfer would accept lots of upsell ads inside the sites. the upsell money would be much better as the retention would be huge.


I wonder at that pricepoint does it compete with free sites....

for repeate daily traffic

I agree with you, but it advertising is not "extra revenue" to most magazines - it's their only hope to profit.

it's called TGP and it's free

i think surfers are getting fed up with $40 a month sites that deliver nothing.. and think they are less willing to pay than last year and the year before for the regular fare paysite, and I think at some point having 400,000 members at 4.95 wil be the norm in the porn biz in I also see megers and acquisitions a lot in the not too distant future, and of course a lot more lawsuits.

This is a question big free sites in the United States should be asking as they look toward the Supreme Court ruling coming later this year.

Is there a monthly or yearly price a big free site like Sleazy Dream could charge where he would retain enough users to make as much or more money than what he makes as a free site?

but if it offered a lot more than any tgp could ever hope to offer at a low low price point maybye a surfer would stop going to the small tgp.. Just a thought. Size and quantity matters

I had big chat rooms in 1995 1996 then yahoo killed every chat site by having way more to offer in terms of users and experience
yeah niche chat sites still existed but user base was slowly declining for those sites

mega content at cheap price could own most tgps

plus with 400,000- 1 million members it starts to get hard to sell new people..... and then free sites income dries up.. but there are prolly 11 million or wso people who would pay $5 for a mmega site

Ok, let's try the direct approach...

If you are B of A or Wells Fargo or Citi and you are paying 25 cents or more for every transaction one of your card holders makes, and you are getting paid, oh let's estimate, 2-5% on the transactions, if you have a 5 dollar transaction that you make at best 25 cents on, do you think you would be a happy bank?

If you have a dollar transaction you just paid 25 cents to clear in order to collect a nickel, would that make it better for you?

Cheap transactions may make the cardholders and the acquiring banks happy due to low chargebacks but do they make the issuing banks happy when they break even at best on them?

Discuss amongst yourselves, I'm going bed and to Barrett Jackson in the morning, will check back in later on to see what you guys think.

what ur proposing.. sounds like a big tgp that has avs characteristics.

whats the diff between this idea and thehun?

lots of the big big tgps offer a premium membership already

4.95 to be a sleazy VIP an elite member as it where:winkwink:

you get all 10,000 of his stories and dont have to wait for the next ones each day plus you get yadda yadda yadda

way more content and lots of articles with real writers more along the lines of a print magazine. something you can only do with a staff of 30 ore more people

I doubt it...



The trial and then conver to 40/month will always be pretty dominant...

5 bucks a month time 24 months is 120 bucks... the same time as 3 months at 40.


So lets say your average user at 40 is 3 months (a decent amount cancell, but this includes the people who forgot to cancell and rebilled for a while)

thats 120 per user

now lets say your average 5 buck paysite lasts 2 YEARS....thats 120. and it takes you 2 years to get that money....



and thats not even mentioning the upsells of 40/month sites that some people forget to cancell.

I am sure there are many mainstreame companies that charge $5 recuring for somehting.. lots of places allow you to charge just $5 for a soda and some chips or gas or whatever so I think they will still take it. even if its not as profitable as a $40 sale

u seem to be focused on articles and stories more than pics and videos.. whys that?

I couldn't help but look one more time.

The examples you've given are not high risk and don't have chargebacks to factor into their model at the rate that adult does.

Visa/MC rules prohibit disallowing a sale due to small dollar amount right now, but remember that Visa and MC are simply associations with board members from different banks that either issue or acquire. Acquiring has been strongly represented for a long time on all boards but issuing isn't the red headed stepchild either.

It's entirely possible that they could charge more for low dollar transactions, processing banks could refuse to accept 5967 in low dollar amounts due to incessant chargeback history, you name it.

I'm not by any means saying it's goign to happen, I am suggesting you consider it as an argument.

Night sweets :)

Classic...menza boy Grogan arguing with Lars...

His next post will be...whos Lars?
Whos Andy Dunn?

That new name dont hide that your a pretentious idiot.

I think over time given a option between $5 and $40 a surfer would pay $5 especially if the $5 site had 100X the content in it.

A name brand has this ability the market forces will drive teh price of paysites down and the offering of more and more content for less and less.

yes but you would also have 5x the # of members and inital sign ups at $5

Fuck all yall...
I am comming out free sites!:Graucho