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POV shooters, do you shoot this type?
OK, you guys. While most of you are playing I'm working on a holiday.
And today it's some really tedious shit. Because I'm a little bit fussy I'm discarding about 85% of the POV content I recently bought. Can't use it. Won't put it on my sites, I never should have bought it. My mistake. And it's not going in the shit can for tech reasons. Look, the whole point of POV is that you are trying to convey an intimate "relationship" fantasy to the surfer. And the idea is that there is some "spark" between the POV shooter and the girl. And that's the problem. I'm getting the idea that some so-called content producers never got laid in high school so they run out and buy a DV cam and now they are in the business of getting blowjobs and selling content. Only one problem, you guys don't have a way with women, you don't know how to talk to a girl, and you can tell in every facial that SHE REALLY DOESN"T WANT TO BE THERE. And the result is VERY unerotic. I've never seen so many cum-dodgers in my life. So I will ask. Are there any POV content shooters out there who do have a way with women? So at least there is some sort of spark, dare I say, the illusion of affection when you're blasting a load in her face? I'll give you guys a clue, most hot girls will SWALLOW your load with gusto IF YOU CAN FUCKING TALK TO THEM RIGHT! The last great guy that did this with Adam Glasser (aka Seymore Butts)---at least in his POV you had the idea that maybe the girls liked him. And that's why his work is so fucking good. Who shoots this way now, and sells content? Spam me if you do. Thanks. |
contact [email protected] they might be able to do something :) I dont know if they do POV porn but i know her husband is the stunt cock and does the video and pictures so i guess ... it is ? i dunno ask em
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I am wondering if there is any POV from girls perspective!
Now that would be a new niche! Hummm. Right about now I am sure a few people are going to jump off there desk and run to the production room when finishing this sentence:winkwink: There is some great POV shooters out there gimme message I will mention a few companies i think are good:) ICQ: 78943384 |
Mike John is the best at the POV. Maybe you can by some of his stuff at red light district
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Mine is not for sale. Of course the POV Porn Guy should definetely have some finesse, that's the whole thing about POV that makes it jerkable. ICQ me & lemme know who sold it to you & I may be able to refer you to someone who does good POV shoots. Besides me of course...
www.povporn.com - they are all smiling!!! |
I think you may be missing the point of POV porn... the man is irrelevant, the whole appeal is that, if properly done, the viewer should be able to imagine themselves as the man.
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Seymore Butts is good looking with a great personality.
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nobody listens to me but the secret of great porn is the male talent - he pulls the great performance out of the girl - and it sure does help if the guy has some charisma and the girl is into him, or at least not repulsed. Seymore had that going for him - u want Seymore quality content call him and see how much he charges you.
All that said there are many girls who are cum dodgers and many others for whom working in porn is nothing but a paycheck - it wouldn't matter if you were Brad Pitt or whoever - the girl is going to do a lame scene. |
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yes, it seems the guys that are really good do not sell content. i understand that. just wish there was a content producer where you could buy reality stuff that was of the tech quality of blacksonblondes, etc. that had an artsy reality edge to it, like cinema verite' porn. (i'll miss alex deRenzy aka rex borsky till i die) some of the best POV is made by people that look like they are in love (wifeysworld, cumswallowwife, etc.). i know it's a tough formula if you've only known the chick for 90 minutes, but you can still get a girl hot by talking to her right. if you make the girl feel like it's a sordid experience, and treat her like a crack whore (even if she is) the emotional response for the surfer is not there, and the product does not convert, and it does not do good business. the challenge to the POV producer is to make the girl think that she is a seductress, that she is the most beautiful, exciting female in the world, it's mostly a head trip. the guys that can do that create some great content. |
I agree with you though we don't shoot content for sale. I'm always saying to anybody that'll listen that the guy should be in the background so the surfer can get off on the fantasy. Or at least not say really lame lines like "so, you like sex?" I hear that too much. For just once I want the girl to say something like "No, I just suck cock for money. And I thinking of going lez if this is the best you boys can do."
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that depends - California Pimp/Netvideogirls is a POV site and it's important that he is very much part of the scene - he has the relationship with his fans. You are talking about another kind of POV where the intention is that the POV is the viewer's POV, viewer can imagine that it is his cock and she is looking up into his eyes. In that kind of POV the shooter shouldn't be yakking too much, if at all.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by POV Porn guy
[B] "The market is flooded with cheap crap, you get what you pay for. " agreed. i will say this. there is a huge opportunity for a shooter with some technical and artistic sense, who owns good equipment, and is internet saavy to be in the content business. the business is bloated with "look-a-like" content. when i see something original, and hot, and beautifully done, i just about fall out of my chair. i love good smut. i'm talking about an artist, who is also a ladie's man, who lives in a place with access to inexpensive models, like eastern europe, or brazil, or manila, who is about 25 years old, in shape, with a great dick, and a sense of humor. this guy could make a fortune right now, just being a content producer. |
People with talent charge accordingly. Period. It's not about being cheap, it's about being good. They are 2 seperate things thast you just keep mashing into one. They are diferent - let it go - and choose.
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Somebody is fishing today...
The best POV shooters have posted, if ya want content buy some exclusive shoots or do it yourself. You already seem pretty experienced IMO. |
shortly i will look at your suggestions, i've got to finish this editing work today.
i have seen stuff that mutt puts out, and whoever he has shooting for him does a great job IMO. i quickly glanced at some still samples dugmor put up --- yes this is the right idea, looks like the girls are having a good time. i will look closer in the next couple days. keep the references coming. i really need, average or better girls who are sexy, having a great time, breathing hard and sweating, in reality lesbian or boy-girl action. shot in a realistic setting with interesting lighting that looks appropriate for erotica (this is usually not office lighting, or a sterile studio looking lighting) a girl on her knees sucking your dick would look beautiful with side lighting, or simulated window lighting, it would model her features better. some of you know what i mean, most of you do not. |
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my purpose of the thread is that i am looking to buy a specific type of content, not slam any content producer. i know what converts for my traffic. if someone can sell me what i need at the right price i will buy, no big deal. |
you're asking for alot there - all that is possible if somebody wants to provide a budget. Most adult DVD's sell less than 5,000 copies - most much less, in the 2-3,000 range - can't have Andrew Blake production values on that kind of budget.
are we talking about exclusive content or licensed content here? If you are talking licensed content you can license some great DVDs from Redlight District and some other studios - including Mike John's POV Pervert DVDs - Mike is regarded as the best POV shooter in the business. Only problem with the Redlight content is that AdultLegal, AdultBouncer and AdultLegal have whored it out so much it loses much of its value. |
I am the KING of POV... second to NONE. My shit sells fucking awesome and converts even better. Sold all over the world with numerous repeat orders
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POV Porn Guy: Kylie is mad hot... how do you find these chicks? ;)
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I have work to do. Goodbye.
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Mutt, i'm not talking about the expensive production values, i'm talking "cheap" production values :) i'm talking about reality porn shot almost in a "documentary" style with a 3-chip camera that works good in low light and a wide lens beautiful stuff can be shot without a lot of hardware. we're not dealing with a set here, were dealing with a model's face, her lips, her eyes, her nipples, her ass, her belly, the way the cock enters the labia, the way the panties split the cameltoe, her mouth, etc. this type of content does convert. you capture the most interesting and beautiful parts of the woman, editing mostly in the camera. if the camera has wide angle lens (not a cheap adapter, but a real wide angle like canon) you can do some visually interesting stuff that really puts the surfer in the driver's seat. i just don't see this sort of stuff shot much, and it is NOT tricky to produce, or more expensive to produce. this is the type of content which is PERFECT for the small size window that most surfers have to look at. because you are filling that small window with a closeup of a certain interesting part of the girl, and not just the image appears better, but the sound is better, because usually the girl's face is near the camera mic. this is want i shoot myself. and this is what i would buy. |
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hey babe whats your icq# or yahoo id.. .. i might have what u need.. |
Still... it all boils down to talent. Here's one of the girls I found and did POV without a camera - Cassidy.
http://www.epicgals.com/al13/1024962_28.jpg |
U get more and more better after you keep doing it...
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wow. yes, indeed. beautiful girl. beautifully photographed. |
Yo Mr. yingyang, I believe in what ur saying as far as a natural and real attraction between the females and the pov shooter. I shoot the content for www.suckmebitch.com and although the name of the site implies a dicked hardcore attitude towards the ladies, I dont bring that attitude when "convincing" the chickees to get naked and fornicate.
Humour and lightheartedness is my approach and it really works out for the best as the girlies look like their having a good time and are enjoying being naughty. So if you want a shooter who "has a way with women", I'm your man. I've been told numerous times that my shoots are way cool and the talent appreciates my attitude. I use the same attitude when I shoot www.swingfordollars.com . Alot of laughing, teasing, poking fun, a real natural feel to our interaction as humans. Nothing forced or over the top, to the point where the viewer loses contact with the sensuality of the fantasy. As far as shooting, I do have a degree in Fine Art( I thought you needed one to shoot porn, mommy is proud =) And have a strong grasp on angles and a constant awareness that there is a home viewer that needs to be considered . Crafty and creative mixed with kinky and juicy. :thumbsup If you'd like to contact me I'm involved with Falconfoto. I'm not in the office now so I dont have my ICQ available but you can email me at [email protected]. If ur not interested, good luck in finding your man, just thought i'd throw my hat into the ring. Have a good one. J-Li |
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guess not. then i guess i dont have what he needs either.
thppppppt |
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not on icq much, but my new icq # is 216063489. i'll be looking at all your leads in the next couple days. thanks, all of you! |
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