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Krome 12-24-2003 07:59 AM

Why are Americans allowed WMD and Iraq is not?
 
The words American and Intelligent have yet to be featured in the same sentence.

So why is retard boy George Bush allowed WMD and Saddam just got fucked for having them?

jimthefiend 12-24-2003 08:00 AM

when the us army uses cn20 on say... maine, then you might have a valid point.


till then stop whining.

brand0n 12-24-2003 08:01 AM

becouse we wont use them unless we really have 2. those fuckin mad men would blow up the joint right beside them due to the weather being fucked up

Krome 12-24-2003 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimthefiend
when the us army uses cn20 on say... maine, then you might have a valid point.


till then stop whining.

You uses tanks against David Coresh (or however you spell his surname) and wiped out a bunch of people who had chosen to live together and create their own religion.

jimthefiend 12-24-2003 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krome


You uses tanks against David Coresh (or however you spell his surname) and wiped out a bunch of people who had chosen to live together and create their own religion.



and violate weapons laws, and molest children... etc etc


youre not very bright are you?

Cash 12-24-2003 08:06 AM

another bs question ...

AM Jeff 12-24-2003 08:08 AM

I have a couple of nukes in my garage.
Doesn't like...all Americans have then too?

Nembrionic 12-24-2003 08:13 AM

To answer your question:

because they're a bunch of fucking hypocrits! Final.

Nembrionic 12-24-2003 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimthefiend
when the us army uses cn20 on say... maine, then you might have a valid point.


till then stop whining.

Wasn't one of Bush's spearpoints that the THREAD of WMD by Iraq were enough to invade?

So: the THREAD of WMD in the US is also there. So that's really a non arguement.

But Sadam was crazy? Hmm..well, I could elaborate on Bush too, but I won't...deep in your heart you know..

rooster 12-24-2003 08:22 AM

maybe you should just be thankful that thousands of americans sacraficed their lifes to combat the nazis and spread of communism.

jimthefiend 12-24-2003 08:24 AM

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Originally posted by Nembrionic


Wasn't one of Bush's spearpoints that the THREAD of WMD by Iraq were enough to invade?

So: the THREAD of WMD in the US is also there. So that's really a non arguement.

But Sadam was crazy? Hmm..well, I could elaborate on Bush too, but I won't...deep in your heart you know..


you little clueless peaceniks tickle the shit out of me

you cant acknowledge most of the facts, the ones you CAN you are totally incapable of acurately interpreting.

idiots.



fucking europeans. you wouldnt EXIST as nations were it not for us and yet take every opportunity to slam our foreign policy decisions. when you become world powers then youll have earned the right to participate in global security issues.

til then just shut up. youre a joke.

com 12-24-2003 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krome
The words American and Intelligent have yet to be featured in the same sentence.

I beg to correct you here. You've just made the most blatent of mistakes. You cannot clasiffy "American" and by doing so you clearly state your ignorance. I am a dual citizen US and IRL. There aren't "Americans" other then the Indians that were here before euro settlers came in. Let's not forget these minor details ;).

Raf1 12-24-2003 08:30 AM

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Originally posted by rooster
maybe you should just be thankful that thousands of americans sacraficed their lifes to combat the nazis and spread of communism.
If the western countries reacted much earlier there might have ended the war in 1939, not 1945....
But lets forget about that for now, it's Christmas :)

ZoiNk 12-24-2003 08:38 AM

Politics are always a very emotional discussion, and best not discussed with anything in your sigs ;)
ZoiNk

sperbonzo 12-24-2003 08:39 AM

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Originally posted by Raf1


If the western countries reacted much earlier there might have ended the war in 1939, not 1945....
But lets forget about that for now, it's Christmas :)

hmmmm....you mean the way Europe and the UN did nothing about Cosovo while the ethnic cleansing was going on until the US insisted and stepped in and pushed the Europeans into reacting? Is THAT the kind of thing that you are taling about?

I love how people can so casually compare GW Bush to Saddam Hussain. If they were the same, then were are the hundreds of thousands of people massacred for disagreeing with Bush? Where are the torture chambers, and mass graves? Where are the bodies of tens of thousands of women and children deliberately gassed to death by Bush? Why are we all complaining about Bush here, on TV and everywhere and not all strung up by our ankles in a little room somewhere?


Give me a break! :2 cents:

rooster 12-24-2003 08:40 AM

anyway, the simple answer is sadaam agreed not to have them to stay in power after he was defeated after he invaded a neighboring country.

KRL 12-24-2003 08:41 AM

Well let's take a worldwide poll asking the question should we let the US hold the WMDs or Saddam hold them all and then see what the results are and we'll go with that.

Get real.

:BangBang:

com 12-24-2003 08:42 AM

Krome congrats! You've single handedly raised the idiocy level up a bar! Keep setting standards you're doing great!

jimthefiend 12-24-2003 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
anyway, the simple answer is sadaam agreed not to have them to stay in power after he was defeated after he invaded a neighboring country.

correct


and people dont seem to understand he violated that agreement IMMEDIATELY.


the first gulf war ended not in a treaty, but a BROKERED CEASE FIRE.

that cease fire was conditional on terms being followed that Hussein AGREED to, and the UN passed resolutions affirming.
We did NOT need more UN consent to invade again.

technically, weve been well within our rights to invade Iraq for 12 years.

Jedimaster 12-24-2003 08:47 AM

MOAB Bomb baby:thumbsup

playa 12-24-2003 08:47 AM

When people gonna realize that US is the leader of the free world. If the US didn't have WMD we all would have Russian bases scattered throughout the world

jimthefiend 12-24-2003 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jedimaster
MOAB Bomb baby:thumbsup

gotta love that MOAB




jedi, icq me man

NBDesign 12-24-2003 08:55 AM

Because God Loves america and gwb and Hates everyone else? :1orglaugh

directfiesta 12-24-2003 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimthefiend



correct


and people dont seem to understand he violated that agreement IMMEDIATELY.


the first gulf war ended not in a treaty, but a BROKERED CEASE FIRE.

that cease fire was conditional on terms being followed that Hussein AGREED to, and the UN passed resolutions affirming.
We did NOT need more UN consent to invade again.

technically, weve been well within our rights to invade Iraq for 12 years.

\

FOA, he had none, so obviously he did " respect" the cease fire...

I also wasn't aware that the US was appointed by the UN as " invaders"... I tought that UN sanctions were conducted by troops under the UN commandment....

Technically and morally, you invaded a country...

......

And to Brandon"

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becouse we wont use them unless we really have 2. those fuckin mad men would blow up the joint right beside them due to the weather being fucked up
How about a short list of countries or regimes that used nuclear ( or if you preker NUKULEAR ) weapons?

directfiesta 12-24-2003 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by playa
When people gonna realize that US is the leader of the free world. If the US didn't have WMD we all would have Russian bases scattered throughout the world
Right, now since USSR is gone, it is US bases that are scattered throughout the world....

directfiesta 12-24-2003 10:24 AM

Israel deploys nuclear arms in submarines

Israeli and American officials have admitted collaborating to deploy US-supplied Harpoon cruise missiles armed with nuclear warheads in Israel's fleet of Dolphin-class submarines, giving the Middle East's only nuclear power the ability to strike at any of its Arab neighbours.
The unprecedented disclosure came as Israel announced that states 'harbouring terrorists' are legitimate targets, responding to Syria's declaration of its right to self-defence should Israel bomb its territory again.

According to Israeli and Bush administration officials interviewed by the Los Angeles Times, the sea-launch capability gives Israel the ability to target Iran more easily should the Iranians develop their own nuclear weapons.

Although it has been long suspected that Israel bought three German diesel-electric submarines with the specific aim of arming them with nuclear cruise missiles, the admission that the two countries had collaborated in arming the fleet with a nuclear-capable weapons system is significant at a time of growing crisis between Israel and its neighbours.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/inter...061381,00.html


Diffrent strokes for different folks....

evildick 12-24-2003 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krome
The words American and Intelligent have yet to be featured in the same sentence.

So why is retard boy George Bush allowed WMD and Saddam just got fucked for having them?

To actually answer your question, this is why:

http://www.un.org/Depts/dda/WMD/treaty/

http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/nptfact.asp

This was an attempt to limit the spread of nuclear weapons. Only the countries that currently had them at the time of the signing were able to keep them, or that was the plan anyway.

directfiesta 12-24-2003 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by evildick


To actually answer your question, this is why:

http://www.un.org/Depts/dda/WMD/treaty/

http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/nptfact.asp

This was an attempt to limit the spread of nuclear weapons. Only the countries that currently had them at the time of the signing were able to keep them, or that was the plan anyway.

Major player that didn't have Nuclear weapons at the time and that did not sign the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty

Israel


Quote:

Representing the government, Chaim Ramon, a cabinet minister and the only other speaker, asked him, "Do you want us to announce to Iran and Iraq exactly what we have?" Even in other democratic countries, Mr. Ramon asserted, discussion about nuclear arms policy is limited and Israel should not have to "invite all our enemies to listen in."

http://www.library.cornell.edu/colld...ast/isrnuk.htm

Again, different rules...

NBDesign 12-24-2003 10:56 AM

It's Christmas eve... can we give this shit a rest till after the holidays? Common people, be happy, enjoy the season... this will still be here for us to argue about after the holidays :thumbsup

rebel23 12-24-2003 11:02 AM

when america loses a war like saddam in 1990 then you can tell them what to do. but this aint gonna happen

Loryn 12-24-2003 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo


hmmmm....you mean the way Europe and the UN did nothing about Cosovo while the ethnic cleansing was going on until the US insisted and stepped in and pushed the Europeans into reacting? Is THAT the kind of thing that you are taling about?

I love how people can so casually compare GW Bush to Saddam Hussain. If they were the same, then were are the hundreds of thousands of people massacred for disagreeing with Bush? Where are the torture chambers, and mass graves? Where are the bodies of tens of thousands of women and children deliberately gassed to death by Bush? Why are we all complaining about Bush here, on TV and everywhere and not all strung up by our ankles in a little room somewhere?


Give me a break! :2 cents:


Thank you!!!!! :thumbsup

69pornlinks 12-24-2003 12:18 PM

Because u.s. would NEVER nuke civiliians:winkwink:

Ic3m4nZ 12-24-2003 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 69pornlinks
Because u.s. would NEVER nuke civiliians:winkwink:
bullshit

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-24-2003 12:26 PM

" Why are Americans allowed WMD and Iraq is not? "

We asked Santa for WMD one Chrismas a long time ago...

Raider Mort 12-24-2003 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krome
The words American and Intelligent have yet to be featured in the same sentence.

So why is retard boy George Bush allowed WMD and Saddam just got fucked for having them?

Basically cause George Bush calls the shots, and its going to be like that for at least another 4 years.

Saddam, like nearly all other arabs, is a complete idiot when it comes to military tactics. You can't trust such primitive folks with WMD.

Thats just the way the world works. Like it or not, there are winners and losers, and the folks you do not agree with are winning. Its hard to deal with, thats why folks act like babies when topics like this come up.

69pornlinks 12-24-2003 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by Ic3m4nZ


bullshit

just tryin to make a point:glugglug

V_RocKs 12-24-2003 12:36 PM

Because we can kick your ass, that is why! Tired of getting your ass kicked? Then stay down!

Nembrionic 12-24-2003 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimthefiend



you little clueless peaceniks tickle the shit out of me

you cant acknowledge most of the facts, the ones you CAN you are totally incapable of acurately interpreting.

idiots.

fucking europeans. you wouldnt EXIST as nations were it not for us and yet take every opportunity to slam our foreign policy decisions. when you become world powers then youll have earned the right to participate in global security issues.

til then just shut up. youre a joke.

Listen punk! I'm gratefull to your daddy or your grandpa, for saving my ancestors, so to speak.
Give me one good reason why YOU are now acting like the US from nowadays saved us? Why we should be YOU thankfull for it? That's bullshit.

Likewise, I hate the Germans that did all of it 50 years ago, but not the current German people. Why? Because they have nothing to do with it.

So stop defending all that shit with the argument that your ancestors saved a lot of people a long time ago.

I hate Saddam, I hate Bin Laden, but there is still no reasonable ground for an invasion in Iraq. WHERE are the WMD's? I thought 90% of the territory should be covered with them, but so far, none have been found.

Quote:

When people gonna realize that US is the leader of the free world. If the US didn't have WMD we all would have Russian bases scattered throughout the world
Come out of you ice age dilerium dude.

ryph 12-24-2003 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 69pornlinks
Because u.s. would NEVER nuke civiliians:winkwink:
Not it's OWN civilians. Enemy civilians are fair game:helpme

Nembrionic 12-24-2003 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ryph
Not it's OWN civilians. Enemy civilians are fair game:helpme

So eh..who did they do the test on again?


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