Powell says, "terrorists win"
 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/internatio...072954,00.html

Guess who started retreating today?

Wait a second... the terrorists are in Iraq? I thought that the US invaded Iraq because there were WMD's? Or.... uhmm... because he was a mean guy.... or... uhmm.... cause he was supporting terrorists.

Now they're saying that all the terrorists live in Iraq or something?

If someone invaded my country, and I bombed a bunch of them, does that make me a terrorist or a patriot to my country? I mean, from their point of view.. that's what happened. The US invaded them. So them fighting back... does that make them terrorists now? or just people hiding wmd's? or just people supporting terrorists?

I'm so confused. Would someone just pick a reason for the US to be there and stick with it??

Ahh so what about Afganistan then? It seems pretty conveniently forgotten.

Oops, I forgot, they don't have oil like Iraq. How endearing.

Who's next?

There is not a single reason...there is...and always has been... multiple reasons.

If it were not for the damn terrorist, Iraq would look like Portland and the Iraq people would be having parades and sucking the American cock. God damn terrorists.

OIL

Thats our story and we are ...... well, we aint tellin'! :thumbsup

to take all of iraq's oil...
to force a new "free trade" for the US with other oil producing countries...
to divert attention away from the failure in Afghanistan...
to line the Bush family's pocket a little finer...

you're right, there are a few... thanx for reminding me :thumbsup

The make up of world leaders on this board is quite amuzing. You fucks would have no clue how to run a country let alone your websites :glugglug

and your insight into how we run our websites is astounding.... I'm guessing you have full access to all of our accounting files, bank accounts, servers, logs and discuss our business with all of our clients/members... because I mean, how else could you possibly know?

Forgotten? Who are you referring to? The news media or the U.S. government? Since the U.S. is still taking casualties in Afghanistan, then I take it you're talking about the news media whos MAIN criteria is to cause debate, controversy, and horror (just to let you know). Still about the IRAQi oil huh? I'm sure it's worth more than 100+ billion dollars and U.S. lives that we're shelling out over there now.

exactly, just like you have the necessary into world dealings. You answered yourself in your reply. :sleep

reasoning like this is why so many people fail in this business.:1orglaugh

Actually, it's quite different.... I am not here holding a blank piece of paper telling you that I know that some other website has mustard gas... when everyone else knows that they don't.

I'm not holding up folders of worthless paper using it as a justifiable means to invade another country for no good reason.

Have I seen the papers? no... but others have, and proved that inspection reports were falcified and other papers were wrong and this and that.... course, they were all forgotten about.

You know jack squat about me and my business, where as the entire world gets frequent news broadcasts on what's going on in Iraq... and absolutely none of it is favourable to the US.
So do I have more to go on than you do? Absolutely.

who are you again? Ah yes... genicide warrior hoping to take out entire nations and races and religions because you can't accept that people might have a differing opinion from you.

I remember you now, and oh how I wish I could forget again.

:GFYBand

I bet that is a country band, right scooter?

You guys keep running your mouths up there and we will cut off your welfare checks.

:Graucho

The terrorists have already won this war.

ANyone who says differently is a fool.

They hit the US, hit hard caused thousands of casualties and a country full of fear. One by one they are picking off the finest soldiers on the earth with relative ease too.

The terrorists have also caused a huge financial hardship on all the US citizens as well as the US as an entity.

Our country is not in great shape.

We have taken many blows, have empty pockets and are bleeding from the nose, eyes and mouth.

No boxer would consider this a victory.

They in fact HAVE won.



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Why do you say that Afhganistan has been "pretty conveniently forgotten"? Forgotten by whom?

Well it looks to me like the US will be stuck in Iraq for a very long time and many $$$ will be spent thanks to an incompetent president. He also got a few more countries to invade IF he's reelected, but who will vote for this religious nut? The American people will kick his ass goodbye.

Where are my welfare checks? Are they behind in issuing them as well? I ain't had one in years :)

You'd think "terrorists" were some new phenomina - the labelling makes it easy to identify "them".

It takes very little looking back into history to see that it is not easy to defeat "terrorists" and I doubt many "terrorists" will consider it a "win" - they will be there for decades until there is some "communication". Then, hell, they end up sitting at tables "negotiating".

"stuck there"?? Do you think there's anywhere else in the world that Bush would rather have the US? He's divying up the country to US corporations to make real sure that the US never leaves Iraq.

and everyone else... we're still waiting

There were many good reasons to invade Iraq...it is just that our government chose to leave you out of the loop.

Yes, in his latest book, Wesley Clark said that the Bush administration had a 5 year plan to invade 7 countries (Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Sudan, Somalia and Iran). Sure he wants US corporations and all the Iraqi consumer market but he sure doesn't want to spend billions on hundreds of thousands of soldiers who get attacked daily that's why he's asking the UN for help. He just want to invade, take control for a while, give huge contracts to his friends and leave for another crusade.

No, I used to think that he was doing it solely for oil, big corporations, etc. but now I'm afraid the guy is a nutjob driven by his twisted mind.

Tommy Chong for president.
(Cheech can be vice.)



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Lets get our fucking guys outta the places and fucking just let Iraq go in anarchy, fuck em, I'm tired of us spending all this fucking money to be in fucking Iraq! Fuck it, bomb the whole middle east!

jDoG

Wesley Clark is also crazy.

:Graucho

Around forty countries or so were not left out of the loop as they joined the USA in its efforts.

afganistan wasnt something that the government could handle and they realized that the second they got into the country, so they said, well lets take out someone that we know we can handle.. aka iraq.
now im a repub, so to have me say this is treason lol, but bush needs wars to keep his popularity level up. hes a moron, and he isnt handling anything else, so the mentality is go blow up the bad guys and then people will like you.
:2 cents:

they were bought. :2 cents:

Hold on a second......
According to them everyone in HERE is a bad guy.
Naked pictures are so destructive that they een outweigh the A-bomb in damage.

Don't go changing the subject now. They might get confused and see reality.

The terrorists are in places like Afghanistan and Palestine, not Iraq. The American people have such twisted views about what's going on in the world. Sure it's good to see Saddam Heussein out of power but there's something fundamentally wrong about letting the people believe that he had something to do with terrorism or 9/11.

Sure I know it was all about money for Bush and his cronies, but at least they've gone from a terrible dictatorship to a dictatorship that'll rape them for labor instead of killing them off. If they decide to overthrow the US power there once everything's settled good for them. All anyone can do is keep taking steps in the right direction.

Are you talking about Saddam Heussein or John Ashkroft?

the keen intellect behind these posts!
This kid will go far.:1orglaugh

Just tell me who owns the patent on WAR so they can send a letter......

what's fundamentally wrong is your insistance that Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism.
Once you state that, the rest of your statements become irrelevant.

I think somebody in China invented firearms. :2 cents:

wow... I am impressed. I must say, I think this is the first I've seen an American ante up and admit to being against their wing of preference for once. I mean, I know lots go against their gov'ts decisions, but not many admit it.

Perhaps there really is hope yet!!

Unfortunately they are virtually one and the same. I hate to say it because I am a very conservative man. But just as they claim that the terrorists have hijacked a peaceful religion, so too have these guys hijacked conservative thought.

What can you expect from a 2-party system? Each and every special interest group grabs ahold of either party and therefore they are both crap. Utter crap. We need about 5 prominent political parties so as to spread those special interest groups out a bit.