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Amputate Your Head 06-27-2003 06:55 PM

Staying on the cutting edge: (My annual rant)
 
Headless and pornjester have permission to reprint/republish in any way they see fit. Anyone else, please contact me first.



Being as this is coming from a primarily designer's perspective, it may be somewhat skewed in that direction, however base principles still apply regardless of specific field and I will attempt to refrain from bias as much as possible.

And here we are. It's 2003 dead center. Whether you're new or carry a veteran badge, unless you're in a cave you are starting to know that the dynamic is changing more rapidly than ever before. What am I talking about?

I'm talking about the marketing dynamic and your overall business approach. You better be learning to adapt faster than ever before because things have changed. Used to be it took a year or two for major shifts in marketing strategy to occur. Now it's happening in a matter of months, sometimes weeks. What worked last January probably isn't working now. The surfers aren't necessarily getting smarter as much as they're becoming numb. The inundation of reality tv crossing over to reality Internet is bombarding the end user with more scenarios and information than ever before. And if you don't have your thumb on it TODAY, you're yesterday's news.

The Age of Innovation has been reborn. Yes we all copy, yes we all immitate. But the gravy train is over folks. You need to find a new well of ideas and fast. He who hesitates is lost. And as you know, there's very little room for second place in this biz, and virtually no room for 5th or 6th place. Attack while it's fresh.

If you're afraid of failure, you've already failed. There are risks involved. New ideas never come with a guarantee, so dismiss what the encyclopedia salesman promised you. You have to step to the edge, look down, and raise your finger in defiance. This is the only path worthy of taking. There are other paths, but they generally fall to the mediocre. And the mediocre are always whining about "their best". "I did my best..."

Fuck your best. In this game, you win or you lose or you manage to barely get by while on your way to the losers tent to share in the grape KoolAid Sulk Fest.

Refine your thought patterns folks. The time was last week. There's only room for so many on the cutting edge. If you wanna be there, you gotta fucking earn it.


AMp

Spunky 06-27-2003 06:56 PM

:glugglug Amen

detoxed 06-27-2003 06:57 PM

awaits lil2rich4u2's intelligent reply

LadyMischief 06-27-2003 07:06 PM

You inspired me to do something I was holding off on Amp :) I'll let you know how it goes ;)

Amputate Your Head 06-27-2003 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
You inspired me to do something I was holding off on Amp :) I'll let you know how it goes ;)
I'm a virtual well of inspiration honey... :)

candyflip 06-27-2003 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
awaits lil2rich4u2's intelligent reply
Here...I'll do it for him:

:thumbsup

katman 06-27-2003 07:13 PM

Boy have you got that right. Talk about numb...Every girl is a tight virgin teeny that we've got exclusive rights to. Haha.

As a matter-of-fact, you may just have inspired me to start something I've been thinking about too. I was waiting for that "saturation" point where no one is paying attention to the mainstream any longer, and I believe you're right-it's here.

AM Jeff 06-27-2003 07:59 PM

my nipples are hard.
:Graucho

Captain Obvious 06-27-2003 08:06 PM

you're on the cutting edge of washed up homo

Rich J. 06-27-2003 08:06 PM

You forgot the part about the sunscreen... "Everybodies free"

Actually that was very well said my friend.

Amputate Your Head 06-27-2003 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by Captain Obvious
you're on the cutting edge of washed up homo
nice intelligent response from the peanut gallery.

RedShoe 06-27-2003 08:41 PM

Oh great, now I'm a failure.

Amputate Your Head 06-27-2003 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by RedShoe
Oh great, now I'm a failure.
fear nothing grasshopper..... grab life by the fucking cahones and squeeze bruddah

Ketadream 06-27-2003 08:44 PM

A++ Rant Amp..

Bobby Vicious 06-27-2003 08:51 PM

Quote:

The inundation of reality tv crossing over to reality Internet is bombarding the end user with more scenarios and information than ever before. And if you don't have your thumb on it TODAY, you're yesterday's news.
So you are insinuating that the typical B/G porn scenes are history. I'll have to disagree here Amp, not that you'd give a fuck but I believe the reality porn on the internet is just a fad, basically its such poor quality and unbelievable bullshit that surfers will eventually return to the basics. They want QUALITY. Hot looking chicks getting off. It has always work and will always work. :2 cents:

dropped9 06-27-2003 08:55 PM

Thank you Amp... It is going up on weboverdrive.com as we speak.

This was why I always wanted you to write for us. Yes you might talk the shit, bring the rukas with your own headless style, but there is more substance up in that ol jug of yours then most gfy's.

And for anyone who says I am kissing ass... Go FUCK yourself now instead of later!

Dude... You should write more often....

Amputate Your Head 06-27-2003 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bobby Vicious


So you are insinuating that the typical B/G porn scenes are history. I'll have to disagree here Amp, not that you'd give a fuck but I believe the reality porn on the internet is just a fad, basically its such poor quality and unbelievable bullshit that surfers will eventually return to the basics. They want QUALITY. Hot looking chicks getting off. It has always work and will always work. :2 cents:


mmmm...... not entirely. I mean, in the end it all comes down to some form of porn or other stimulation. The presentation, or "ad" or "commercial", which is your outside site, is the ultimate debate. How you sell your product is the final point. The product isn't changing much.... sure there's weird shit... farting, shitting, pissing, whatever.... the base product is carved. The wrapper is the dynamic.

The "reality" wrapper may be a fad (and I agree with that.... everything is a fad to some degree)... but that IS your market. You sell what's hot, WHILE it's hot. If you're not doing that, you're not in the game. You can look at long term all you want, but if you're not selling TODAY.... you're not selling today.

Mr.Fiction 06-27-2003 09:02 PM

Nothing ever changes, nothing ever stays the same.

Someone bump this thread is a year, you'll see I'm right.

Amputate Your Head 06-27-2003 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Nothing ever changes, nothing ever stays the same.

Someone bump this thread is a year, you'll see I'm right.

very true..... but you can't deny that the speed is increasing. :winkwink:

dropped9 06-27-2003 09:06 PM

And it's up...

http://www.weboverdrive.com/modules/...php?storyid=30

Honeyslut 06-27-2003 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


nice intelligent response from the peanut gallery.


LOL

Ketadream 06-27-2003 09:11 PM

Announcing my new reality site...

"The Bang Unicycle"

We cruise down the streets of miami (with my camera man on a skateboard following me) and we pick up chicks and have sex with them while attempting to ride a unicycle...

Fox TV says..

"Combining the best of a circus and the bang bus, The Bang Unicycle gives the viewers a ride and a rise they will never forget"

In a similar story Porn Mogul Ketadream was sued today by a disgrunteled x-model who was forced to preform sexual acts while ballancing on a unicycle... Her law suit includes damages incurred after a fall and the mental anguish of landing on a clown


Dont ask me where the hell I came up with this...

Amputate Your Head 06-27-2003 09:12 PM

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Originally posted by Headless
Thank you Amp... It is going up on weboverdrive.com as we speak.

This was why I always wanted you to write for us. Yes you might talk the shit, bring the rukas with your own headless style, but there is more substance up in that ol jug of yours then most gfy's.

And for anyone who says I am kissing ass... Go FUCK yourself now instead of later!

Dude... You should write more often....

man, I really wish I could.... I'll never forget how I let you down on that. But I can only do this stuff when the mood strikes me.... most of the time nobody listens and the rest of the time they don't even try to understand... I feel, for the most part, we work in an industry infested with people looking for a quick buck anywhere they can score it. No one is interested in doing their job WELL anymore.... or at least very few. Integrity is an unknown urban legend. Honesty? LOL..... yeah right.

So I gave up ranting like this on a regular basis..... I get better results smacking myself in the forehead with a ballpeen hammer. But when the mood strikes me, it's usually gold. Doesn't happen often, but it still happens. People like Captain Dumbass up there tend to kill inspiration though. Makes me ask myself, why bother.

Anyhow.... you always got first dibs on anything I DO write bro.... that's the least I can do for you since I bailed on the assignment way back.

Bobby Vicious 06-27-2003 09:15 PM

Quote:

The "reality" wrapper may be a fad (and I agree with that.... everything is a fad to some degree)... but that IS your market. You sell what's hot, WHILE it's hot. If you're not doing that, you're not in the game. You can look at long term all you want, but if you're not selling TODAY.... you're not selling today.
Point taken...... but there are exceptions, and I don't think I have to go into detail. The wrapper/ presentation, baby you hit the nail on the fucking head. Quality, value, something unique, convince the surfer that he needs your product, and deliver. Accomplish this and it'll be hard not to make bank. :thumbsup

Snake Doctor 06-27-2003 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Headless
Thank you Amp... It is going up on weboverdrive.com as we speak.

This was why I always wanted you to write for us. Yes you might talk the shit, bring the rukas with your own headless style, but there is more substance up in that ol jug of yours then most gfy's.

And for anyone who says I am kissing ass... Go FUCK yourself now instead of later!

Dude... You should write more often....

Ass kisser :winkwink:

Captain Obvious 06-27-2003 09:18 PM

being on the cutting edge supposedly allows you to fuck fat, ugly chicks:1orglaugh

Amputate Your Head 06-27-2003 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by Captain Obvious
being on the cutting edge supposedly allows you to fuck fat, ugly chicks:1orglaugh
you DO realize that eventually I will match up your IP with your regular user name.... and when I do, I will make a spectacle of you in fine fashion.

Daen 06-27-2003 09:23 PM

The idea of innovation also applies to diatribes such as this, what Amp has stated here is merely the unimaginative obvious. It could be applied to any business since the start of time and could have been written at any moment in that timeline.

Amp implies that business models need to alter at the speed of thought in order to survive the Internet marketing paradigm, but in case you have not noticed there is no Internet marketing paradigm. Unlike bricks and mortar businesses that have thousands of years of axiomatic practice to draw marketing strategies from the Internet is still the wild Wild West. Why is it that the planets most successful marketing machines , Sony for example, are seemingly terrified of the Internet, and until very recently did not even sell there own products online, now that they do what is it they offer, an off the shelf shopping cart.

So I would suggest not taking Amp?s epiphany at its word but instead keep an eye on the bottom line because it is your pocket book that will ultimately give you your very own set of Internet marketing axioms.

Captain Obvious 06-27-2003 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


you DO realize that eventually I will match up your IP with your regular user name.... and when I do, I will make a spectacle of you in fine fashion.

go get'em tiger

P-K 06-27-2003 09:27 PM

I'm on the cutting edge of mastering the art of bukakki with your ugly girl

Amputate Your Head 06-27-2003 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Daen
The idea of innovation also applies to diatribes such as this, what Amp has stated here is merely the unimaginative obvious. It could be applied to any business since the start of time and could have been written at any moment in that timeline.

Amp implies that business models need to alter at the speed of thought in order to survive the Internet marketing paradigm, but in case you have not noticed there is no Internet marketing paradigm. Unlike bricks and mortar businesses that have thousands of years of axiomatic practice to draw marketing strategies from the Internet is still the wild Wild West. Why is it that the planets most successful marketing machines , Sony for example, are seemingly terrified of the Internet, and until very recently did not even sell there own products online, now that they do what is it they offer, an off the shelf shopping cart.

So I would suggest not taking Amp?s epiphany at its word but instead keep an eye on the bottom line because it is your pocket book that will ultimately give you your very own set of Internet marketing axioms.

ummm.... yes, and yet, no.

Let's break it down.

Quote:

Originally posted by Daen
The idea of innovation also applies to diatribes such as this, what Amp has stated here is merely the unimaginative obvious. It could be applied to any business since the start of time and could have been written at any moment in that timeline.
Yes. It should be obvious. Even painfully obvious. I didn't write this for those that relate to the obvious. I wrote it for those that don't. To be cliche, "Common sense isn't all that common."

Quote:

Originally posted by Daen
Amp implies that business models need to alter at the speed of thought in order to survive the Internet marketing paradigm, but in case you have not noticed there is no Internet marketing paradigm. Unlike bricks and mortar businesses that have thousands of years of axiomatic practice to draw marketing strategies from the Internet is still the wild Wild West. Why is it that the planets most successful marketing machines , Sony for example, are seemingly terrified of the Internet, and until very recently did not even sell there own products online, now that they do what is it they offer, an off the shelf shopping cart.
Interesting.... yet flawed. You compare the environment of online porn to the environment of Sony.... a mainstream (non-adult) company, largely centered around tangible consumer goods. Hardly a valid comparison I should think. The strategy Sony uses to market their products is in no way comparable to marketing virtual adult material.

Quote:

Originally posted by Daen
So I would suggest not taking Amp?s epiphany at its word but instead keep an eye on the bottom line because it is your pocket book that will ultimately give you your very own set of Internet marketing axioms.
I never claimed to be preaching the gospel.... and you're correct in the fact that the bottom line is the final measure. But I think you're overlooking an extremely vast amount of factors between here and there.

dropped9 06-27-2003 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by Lenny2


Ass kisser :winkwink:


Refer to my first post, then :321GFY

BlackCrayon 06-27-2003 09:35 PM

innovation can go both ways, it can benefit you and the industry, or it can damage it. all depends on the idea in my opinion. ie: traffic trading scripts. i noticed once everyone and their dog started using these in their free sites, conversions dropped dramatically and haven't been the same since. of course conversions seem to drop every year but man, those scripts make for some shitty traffic if you ask me.

anyhow, my little rant aside, new ideas are always needed and yes we all must be able to adapt in order to stay profitable, however sometimes new ideas are all about money today, and not focusing enough on tomorrow.

Amputate Your Head 06-27-2003 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by P-K
I'm on the cutting edge of mastering the art of bukakki with your ugly girl
ya know, dipshits like you are so fucking pathetic, it boggles my mind that I even bother to respond to you.....

is your own life so goddamned sad and worthless that you feel compelled to make ridiculous comments like this in a desperate attempt to make yourself "feel" better?

how truly miserable it must be when you lay your head down at night... and even worse when you wake up and nothing has changed.

dropped9 06-27-2003 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
often, but it still happens. People like Captain Dumbass up there tend to kill inspiration though. Makes me ask myself, why bother.

Anyhow.... you always got first dibs on anything I DO write bro.... that's the least I can do for you since I bailed on the assignment way back.

Dude ppl like captin whatever are fun people. You can use them to relieve "stress"..... Trust me... That is one reason why I enjoy GFY. It's my water cooler... You know how many times I have come here and just laughed my ass off at the stupidity? TONS!

On the article thing.... No worries bro.. Shit happens and I have had many a people flake on me ever since the n..e.t.p.o.n.d.. Chronicles...

Daen 06-27-2003 09:40 PM

Quote:

Interesting.... yet flawed. You compare the environment of online porn to the environment of Sony.... a mainstream (non-adult) company, largely centered around tangible consumer goods. Hardly a valid comparison I should think. The strategy Sony uses to market their products is in no way comparable to marketing virtual adult material.
I was not referring to the nature of the goods on offer I was referring to the fact that one of the most powerful marketing machines to date is unsure of the Internet.

Amputate Your Head 06-27-2003 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Daen


I was not referring to the nature of the goods on offer I was referring to the fact that one of the most powerful marketing machines to date is unsure of the Internet.

yes, fine.... but the strategy is not comparable. Sony's interest is not focused on the Internet. It focused on retail. You, as an online pornographer do not have that luxury. You can't just ignore or take your time contemplating the value of the Internet. The Internet IS your business. You're not gonna sell your MILF site in Circuit Fucking City. And this is why I say your comparison is flawed severely. My rant is not about your brick and mortar mainstream business plans.... it's about US. This is not a fucking business class on how to get a business license and start your own t-shirt store. It's about competing in todays virtual porn market....

and apparently, it was fully lost on you. Welcome to the back seat.

Snake Doctor 06-27-2003 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Headless



Refer to my first post, then :321GFY

I will, now AND later, just for you sweetie :winkwink:

dropped9 06-27-2003 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2


I will, now AND later, just for you sweetie :winkwink:

Make sure you use ky butterball...

Snake Doctor 06-27-2003 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Headless


Make sure you use ky butterball...

KY butterball? Is that a new turkey flavored KY or something?


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