got obama'ed today
 

yup.. big time....first cypionate was $20 per bottle with my health ins... now it's $198 with the NEW health ins that's over $160 per month higher per month, with double the deductible BTW

then this: I have ocular rosacea so I need to take 250 mg Erythromycin twice a day ... no big deal a script is $20... errrrr was $20, now with Obama care $220

I've never seen a bigger rip-off in my life.

I was talking to the head pharmacist at The Walgreens where we get prescriptions and he was telling me that he has never seen prices rise at this rate in his entire career. :(

But think of all the illegals and food stampers you're subsidizing with those premiums! Only together do we move forward. Everything for everyone, and nothing for ourselves.

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Not coincidence both campaigns use the same "Forward!" message.

Traditional leftist way - rip off the donors and give to the losers :2 cents:

Honestly, I think that the President and the Democrats truly believed that this would really bring prices down.

I'm not sure that any of the people involved had any real world experience in business though.

I think they are as shocked as we are by what is happening.

Fixed it for ya'.

I just got off the phone with a dear friend of mine who is the head pharmacist at Walgreens for over 20 years (he's at work now) and I read him this post by the OP. The minute I read it, of course you're going to blame Obama.

He clearly said, and most of you should know this, is that "all of a sudden, recently.." the price of something so simple as 250mg Erythromycin skyrocketed as well as all other medicines and he said it's the industry itself.

Is this repercussive to the Affordable Care Act? Maybe so, but remember... ---> Romney ran his own Obamacare. I.e., Romneycare. And most candidates knew that healthcare had to be reformed. Shit, Hillary tried this back in the Clinton days, remember?

The first step to anything great is always birth pangs. It's a step in the right direction. Healthcare was out of control. It had to be stemmed. I know. It almost bankrupted me over 11 years.

These speed bumps will mellow out. It was never really about scripts, it was about the fucking doctors that charge STUPID FUCKING amounts of money just to sit there and write these scripts and CAT scans that cost a fucking Ferrari to pay for.

Give it some time. We are finally on the way to a different (kind of) system, and things will be shaken up. This is a basic understanding of physics. Or, to make it simple for some of you morons, it's like throwing a HUGE rock the size of a Cadillac into a lake, and not just a pebble every once-in-a while. Shit's gonna get shaken up while the ripples subside.


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Or move to Canada or Cyprus like everyone else in this fucking industry.

Is this a result of the insurance no longer covering this medication or is it that you have a co-pay and the medication has just gone up in price that much?

If it is the price of the medication it isn't Obamacare so much as it is pharmaceutical companies wanting to rape you and reap their 1000% profit margins.

As I said when it Obamacare first passed, the problem with it is that it does nothing to actually lower the cost of healthcare. It is just a health insurance bill.

That said, I am the opposite side of the coin. Having a pre-existing condition (asthma) I was never able to buy decent health insurance. Now I can and I can get my prescriptions filled at local pharmacies instead of having to order them online. I have much better coverage and convenience and am spending about the same as I was before when I was paying for most of my care out of pocket.

Exactly Dink. Thanks for sharing. Most people seem to only watch FOX news and fill there brains with cream-of-bullshit soup.

Btw, I forgot about you. Just settled in the new house in Vancouver. I had you down to write. Let's touch base and hook up.

I'll PM you now.

Look at the bright side. You live in Montana.

I'm paying more for much less coverage ... you do realize that congress and Obama exempted themselves from affordable care correct?

Yeah, I do realize they exempted themselves from it.

I'm not saying Obamacare is great. I am just saying it worked out for me (and others) and that until there is something done about the rising cost of healthcare itself (meaning the cost of going to the doctor, medicines etc) all the health insurance reform in the world won't matter.

I'm not sure who Dink is, but I responded to your PM.

eventually the administration will need to stop strip mining that work.... :2 cents:

That's not what what we were promised

To be honest, I don't remember them promising to lower the cost of drugs and healthcare services. I do remember them promising to lower the cost of health insurance.

To actually lower the cost of healthcare services/drugs would require wholesale changes in our system that would take a huge effort to carry out so even if they were promised, there was no chance they would have ever actually materialized.

Lowering the cost of healthcare was the entire reason that they did this in the first place.

The President said that the rising cost of healthcare was one of the main things that was bankrupting the government. I assume he meant because of medicare, etc.

And he said that because the cost of healthcare (caused apparently by the small percentage of people who go to the emergency room and skip out on their bills...lol) was going to go down...that the cost of our health insurance would be lowered by $2,500 per family.

My health insurance as of January is now over $1,000 a month for a family of three healthy people with a $3,000 deductible. That's up almost double for the exact same policy since the President has been in office. :(

EDIT: Actually it's NOT the same exact policy. In 2009-2011 my oldest daughter was still living at home and was on my insurance policy. So it was FOUR people. Now it's almost double the price and we have one less person on the policy.

ANYONE who has any brain cells whatsoever knows that if you have insurance the price is marked up at least 400% so you still end up paying nearly the same price as a non insured and/or cash person. My girlfirend didn't have insurance last year and she had to make a ER visit. As we were exiting and had to stop by the financial office the lady laid a form out in front of her and said "sign this since you don't have insurance you only pay 20%." "Dental discount" cards are a great example. I canceled my insurance after I figured out I'd pay less with a discount dental card and cash than with my "insurance." Obamacare is and has always been a huge windfall for the insurance companies (the people who actually wrote the bill) nothing more nothing less.

Funny thing. They (Congress/Senate/Pres...etc) have their own private gov healthcare. I wonder what they really pay? My guess is, next to nothing.

Hehe. Criminals yes, stupid, no.

Well, it would have been an excellent good start if the people involved had actually taken the time to read the bill before they went and passed it.

American healthcare system is the most shocking and biggest joke to the entire rest of the world. It is ridiculed at dinner tables across the globe. Sad.

It supposed to make healthcare affordable for people who make $30k a year not people who live in mansions and make six figures lol. Or people with preexisting conditions. Or kids over 18 but under 26. Sorry this act wasn't about you

One day we will get single payer and it'll all make a lot more sense. This is just a stepping stone

Also my insurance is a much better value then it use to be, sorry for the bad luck

The plan only works if everyone is on it. The young and healthy people need to subsidize the old and unhealthy. Sort of a cluster fuck from day one.

I do wonder why it was not initiated by the Republicans though. Why wouldn't they want to take health care out of the corporate realm and make American businesses more competitive? And then do it smoother.

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Is it Obamacare or the insurance companies that are taking the piss?
And on a side note, you take antibiotics constantly?

The answer to that is a LOT fucking easier than ObamaCare

When a Doctor graduates and is Now a licensed MD, he should have to do 15 hours per week community work for the next 3 to 5 years.

That means free.. He is welcome to have his practice or work in someone elses office but he should be forced to do the 15 hours per week. Correctly run by each state this gives free health care to anyone that does not have insurance.

the cost of my health ins effectively doubled, so they did lie to me :2 cents:

so... you're a fucking loser and me and Robbie are paying your health ins, lol? too bad you don't have any balls, you could just come over with a gun and steal all my stuff :2 cents:

thank you :thumbsup yes the condition demands I do... been doing it for almost 14 years, there are times when I do not need to and oddly enough seems to be tied to gluten

there is a lot of fancy machinery

but then you look at mortality rates and average lifespans and start wondering...

Wrong.


Hospitals Charge Uninsured and ?Self-Pay? Patients More than Double What Insured Patients Pay

You might want to use that expensive obamacare to get your mental capacity checked if this is the conclusion you made from my post. Or your mental capacity is ok (relatively) you are just another angry old white man

in the words of the now covered college students... U MAAAAAD

Oh and also you sure bitch about how expensive stuff is enough. Maybe you should work harder to make more money instead of just sitting there complaining... you know, how all the freeloaders apparently behave that you hate

so your thinking is me working 60-70 hours a week isn't enough and I should work 100 hours a week to cover your bills?

let me guess, we OWE it to you, to support you because you're so fucking amazing? and the world couldn't possibly do without you?

here's a clue fuck mouth: people that live in gated estates and make six figures work their fucking asses off... if you weren't such a low life loser you would know that...

or is it you aren't smart enough to put that together??? enquiring minds want to know.....:2 cents:

gotta pay for all the dead beats who refuse to work

you are the one complaining on things being expensive, so yeah, maybe you should work 100 hours a week

I'm not sure why you think you are covering my bills. I certainly have no subsidy on my health insurance. It sounds like I should be kicking you a few dollars, since clearly you are struggling to pay for your medication

But yes, I do believe we should be subsidizing the numerous people working two shitty jobs for 60+ hours a week barely making ends meet. Unfortunately select extremely wealthy individuals and companies have brainwashed you into thinking everyone not making $100k+ a year is a deadbeat freeloader with 10 kids living off government handouts

Rabies vaccine in Vietnam = $5 per injection

Rabies vaccine in USA = either
a. Not available without insurance
or
b. $9,000 for the series of 3-5 shots

go figure

Think about it, what if a law was passed to deal with piracy where all Americans were required to maintain a qualifying porn subscription. Do you think pornsites would charge more or less?

Obviously we would all charge as much as we could get away with and deliver as little as possible in exchange. So obviously health insurance has done the same.

Price of human life in Vietnam = $5 as well no? :error

not a very good comparison as there is actually competition in porn, not nearly as much in insurance