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FTVGirls 03-05-2003 12:20 AM

When Rebills exceed Signups
 
Is it common for your rebills to eventually exceed your signups? We average 50 signups a day, but our rebills are now exceeding that daily. Perhaps we need more people promoting the site so we can break the 50 signup a day plateau that we've had like forever?

Gutterboy 03-05-2003 12:23 AM

You are a porn god

Exxxotica 03-05-2003 12:24 AM

50 signups a day??? I see every TGP out there promoting your site.

You guys have an increadible looking site..

WTF arent there more signups that that?

Kimmykim 03-05-2003 12:24 AM

Wow.

Kimmykim 03-05-2003 12:24 AM

I'm speechless pretty much.

Exxxotica 03-05-2003 12:27 AM

.... or is that a lot?

I realize Im just a mere TGP guy, and 50 signups is a whole lot more than I will ever see... but isnt 50 signups pretty low for a site that has hundreds of galleries and banners posted all over the place?

FTVGirls 03-05-2003 12:28 AM

Lagwagon (chris) takes care of the affiliate stuff, I do the actual content & members area. Just that from what I see, I'd like to see more than usual 10,000 unique visitors/day come to our site.

When I hear people sending 50k visitors a day to sites it makes my mouth water....

Exxxotica 03-05-2003 12:28 AM

... and I can never tell if Kimmy is being sarcastic or not. :uhoh

Kimmykim 03-05-2003 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by Exxxotica
... and I can never tell if Kimmy is being sarcastic or not. :uhoh
Do the math.

stocktrader23 03-05-2003 12:30 AM

Yes 50 a day sounds low as shit. Shocking to me.

Pornkings 03-05-2003 12:30 AM

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Originally posted by FTVGirls
Lagwagon (chris) takes care of the affiliate stuff, I do the actual content & members area. Just that from what I see, I'd like to see more than usual 10,000 unique visitors/day come to our site.

When I hear people sending 50k visitors a day to sites it makes my mouth water....

sure you can get more signups if we swap exit traffic:thumbsup

xxxinnovations 03-05-2003 12:31 AM

low to me too

Exxxotica 03-05-2003 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim


Do the math.

I never claimed to be an A student,
But I dont have to be.
If you have deep pockets and sell nuclear rockets
Youre a friend of my family.

Kimmykim 03-05-2003 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
Yes 50 a day sounds low as shit. Shocking to me.

I am NOT talking about how many signups they do a day.

What I am merely doing a piss poor job of pointing out is that if their rebills did NOT exceed their initial joins after a certain point in their sales, no one would be staying very long.

Exxxotica 03-05-2003 12:34 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings


sure you can get more signups if we swap exit traffic:thumbsup


NO DONT DO IT!!!!

playa 03-05-2003 12:35 AM

That is the goal for every paysite,, that means your retaining members well

Candyman69 03-05-2003 12:35 AM

most days i send a good 30% of that 50 :Graucho

FTVGirls 03-05-2003 12:35 AM

1/10,000 to 1/15,000 uniques a day avg 50 signups, I guess thats a 1/250 or so ratio. Pornkings, exit traffic means if we send you 10,000 exit traffic, you would send 10,000 back?

I've heard that some sites do 1/100 or 1/50 conversions, but I have to see it to believe it. Well, I've done my best to make the site as attractive to browsers as possible in my power.

Exxxotica 03-05-2003 12:37 AM

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Originally posted by FTVGirls
1/10,000 to 1/15,000 uniques a day avg 50 signups, I guess thats a 1/250 or so ratio. Pornkings, exit traffic means if we send you 10,000 exit traffic, you would send 10,000 back?

I've heard that some sites do 1/100 or 1/50 conversions, but I have to see it to believe it. Well, I've done my best to make the site as attractive to browsers as possible in my power.


NO DONT DO IT!!!

playa 03-05-2003 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

What I am merely doing a piss poor job of pointing out is that if their rebills did NOT exceed their initial joins after a certain point in their sales, no one would be staying very long.


:1orglaugh

playa 03-05-2003 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FTVGirls
1/10,000 to 1/15,000 uniques a day avg 50 signups, I guess thats a 1/250 or so ratio. Pornkings, exit traffic means if we send you 10,000 exit traffic, you would send 10,000 back?


chances are your webmaster will stop listing your sites if you add pop ups

just let Lagwagon work on website

Hooper 03-05-2003 12:40 AM

Quote:

I'm speechless pretty much
pigs have begun flying.
hell has frozen over.

i'm going to consult my swami

Hooper 03-05-2003 12:41 AM

ftvgirls.

i always say that .25 rebills per new sale is GREEAT! so if you're making 100 new joins a day and you have 25 rebills a day.. you're on your way to riches! ;-)

twistyneck 03-05-2003 12:45 AM

Nice looking site, I'll give you guys a try.

FTVGirls 03-05-2003 12:46 AM

Using the GFY vets' wisdom, moving rebills from $19.95 to 29.95, would that significantly drop rebills?

Exxxotica 03-05-2003 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by playa



chances are your webmaster will stop listing your sites if you add pop ups

just let Lagwagon work on website


I agree...

you add popups... you are just another site like the Pornkings cookie cutter clones.

Sure adding exits may be seem like a good way to increase your sales... but being most of your traffic is coming in from us mesley TGP guys, you may want to think things over.

FTVGirls 03-05-2003 12:50 AM

I'll make sure lagwagon reads this post... he's out partying so I reared my ugly head into GFY tonight.

Our other way of getting traffic is doing members' section exchange of goodies, like we have with explicite.com .

Pornkings 03-05-2003 12:55 AM

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Originally posted by FTVGirls
1/10,000 to 1/15,000 uniques a day avg 50 signups, I guess thats a 1/250 or so ratio. Pornkings, exit traffic means if we send you 10,000 exit traffic, you would send 10,000 back?

I've heard that some sites do 1/100 or 1/50 conversions, but I have to see it to believe it. Well, I've done my best to make the site as attractive to browsers as possible in my power.

we convert 1/40 on tgp traffic with our Porn4abuck program no bullshit.

and yes I will match whatever you send me.
example I send CEN like 150 sales a day its called the big boys network all the top sponsors swap traffic.
This way if I don't have a certain webmaster in my program i'll still get his traffic of one of the big boys:winkwink:

Pornkings 03-05-2003 12:56 AM

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Originally posted by Exxxotica



NO DONT DO IT!!!


why not who are you???

playa 03-05-2003 12:57 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings

This way if I don't have a certain webmaster in my program i'll still get his traffic of one of the big boys:winkwink:


LOL,, good idea,,

i just learned something today

Pornkings 03-05-2003 01:01 AM

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Originally posted by FTVGirls
Using the GFY vets' wisdom, moving rebills from $19.95 to 29.95, would that significantly drop rebills?
Not at all trust me we have tried every price point.

just make sure its Like $29.47 since nothing comes out to .99 or .95 because of tax

onther option is $20 or $40 dollars straight up so it looks like a atm withdrawl or fast cash from an atm

both these methods will increase your rebills by about 10%

Exxxotica 03-05-2003 01:02 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings


we convert 1/40 on tgp traffic with our Porn4abuck program no bullshit.



Yeah... Ive seen the inside of your "Porn4abuck program" :NopeNope That shit is awful.

As for who am I??? I am nobody. I am just Joe Surfer who is sick of shitty paysites.

I am Joe Surfer who is looking for something that lives up to the hype that got me to pull out my credit card.

I am Joe Surfer who decides to try out a membership instead of opening up Kazaa for the evening.

Pornkings 03-05-2003 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Exxxotica



Yeah... Ive seen the inside of your "Porn4abuck program" :NopeNope That shit is awful.

As for who am I??? I am nobody. I am just Joe Surfer who is sick of shitty paysites.

I am Joe Surfer who is looking for something that lives up to the hype that got me to pull out my credit card.

I am Joe Surfer who decides to try out a membership instead of opening up Kazaa for the evening.

trust me we have alot of content you wouldn't have enough time to see it all if you surfed thru it for a month 8 hours a day

thats why we are on all the top sponsors exits because the program is shit you wish you had something to promote

I'd probably crash your hosting if I went with you

Pornwolf 03-05-2003 01:07 AM

No Oscar Meyer Bologna in Roger V's fridge, only freshly sliced turkey that costs $8.99 per pound.


:winkwink:

Kimmykim 03-05-2003 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by Hooper


pigs have begun flying.
hell has frozen over.

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Ok well enough of that.

There is a reason that pop up consoles are used by all the sites doing thousands of joins a day. They work.

With that said you should look into offering both the console and the non console version and letting your affiliates choose, with different pay rates for each, of course.

Pornkings 03-05-2003 01:10 AM

I luv to see people post who have no idea what there talking about.

Pornkings 03-05-2003 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim


Ok well enough of that.

There is a reason that pop up consoles are used by all the sites doing thousands of joins a day. They work.

With that said you should look into offering both the console and the non console version and letting your affiliates choose, with different pay rates for each, of course.

Yep KK your right
we have a program that only has one exit as well called speedball and it pays $40 per trial
we are also launching a porn4abuck program without exits do to webmasters request.

as far as paysites go we have a site called megaporn which has all our content for $6.95 a month that rebills at $6.95 and it rebills the same as our full price sites with the same content. go figure

PerfectionGirls 03-05-2003 01:16 AM

Quote:

There is a reason that pop up consoles are used by all the sites doing thousands of joins a day. They work.
Exactly :thumbsup

Quote:

With that said you should look into offering both the console and the non console version and letting your affiliates choose, with different pay rates for each, of course.
Exactly Again :thumbsup

If you are not making the best use of ALL your traffic then you just are not being a responsible, bottom line minded webmaster. One thing I have learned is to do my best to capitalize on all my traffic. Give credit to the affiliates your first exit that promotes your sites, then if you cant catch them there.... find sme programs that will. Its just being smart.

Our site cost is 29.95 and we rebill at 29.95 We convert better with the higher rebill for whatever reason.

Kimmykim 03-05-2003 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings


Yep KK your right
we have a program that only has one exit as well called speedball and it pays $40 per trial
we are also launching a porn4abuck program without exits do to webmasters request.

as far as paysites go we have a site called megaporn which has all our content for $6.95 a month that rebills at $6.95 and it rebills the same as our full price sites with the same content. go figure


Egads Rog, enough with the spamming! :)

stocktrader23 03-05-2003 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings


Yep KK your right
we have a program that only has one exit as well called speedball and it pays $40 per trial
we are also launching a porn4abuck program without exits do to webmasters request.

as far as paysites go we have a site called megaporn which has all our content for $6.95 a month that rebills at $6.95 and it rebills the same as our full price sites with the same content. go figure

Thank you for saying that. I've been trying to tell everyone that the price isn't as important as they thing it is but I just get flamed for being an ignorant newbie.

Once again as in any business of a direct sales nature PRICE ISN'T THAT IMPORTANT. Now There is a limit to that but $40 isn't breaking anyones back.


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